Any Chance We See Collins More This Week?

[southernscot]

I have nothing to prove this (and he apparently recorded 0 tackles in Nashville), but it seemed like Jalen Collins saw the field significantly more last week. Perceptions from anybody else on this board?

I know VJax is out and Evans will be Trufant's primary assignment, but still the Bucs' big targets (including Sefarian-Jenkins) could mean that Collins — the biggest corner on the roster — sees more PT.

I know people thought he seemed like a bust in Week 4. Have those thoughts changed?

[ATLFalcon36]

I thought he held up pretty well, this would definitely be a good test to see how he fares. I mean the whole point we drafted him was to cover large receivers, what better test than the bucs?

[Dirtybird56]

Yes Collins played a lot last week because he came in to play outside corner in our nickel package and Alford moved inside.

Quinn said the plan is the same for this week, Collins will play on the outside and Alford will move inside when we go nickel. Collins is going to see his fair share of Mike Evans this week, let's see what the young dude has

[TheFatboi]

I have nothing to prove this (and he apparently recorded 0 tackles in Nashville), but it seemed like Jalen Collins saw the field significantly more last week. Perceptions from anybody else on this board?

I know VJax is out and Evans will be Trufant's primary assignment, but still the Bucs' big targets (including Sefarian-Jenkins) could mean that Collins the biggest corner on the roster sees more PT.

I know people thought he seemed like a bust in Week 4. Have those thoughts changed?

Evans won't be tru's primary. He covers whoever lines up in front of him. If the bucs play a lot of nickel then we'll see Collins on the outside and since Koetter likes 4 verts it's highly likely. The good thing is cover 3 is a perfect coverage for 4 verts. This could be a multi pick game. The weakness of cover 3 is the seam tho so they will have to be mindful of seam routes. The pressure will be key this week.

[Pacific_Falcon]

I think Collins has been playing a lot more than people realize...but it's because they don't notice him because he's not screwing up...which is a good thing. He will see the field plenty with all the spread formations Koetter likes.

[paulitik]

It's possible. He did just come out of retirement.

'In the Air Tonight' is a kickass tune.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/phil-collins-plotting-comeback-i-am-no-longer-retired-20151028

[brown bomber]

Quinn: Jalen Collins will remain as the team's nickel for the second straight week. #TBvsATL

[RunningThePiszOuttaTheBall]

The snap counts confirm Jalen played a lot. I saw him on the field, but I honestly don't recall him being targeted. Anyone recall seeing that?

The other problem is that Alford got beat like a drum last week. Luckily Mettenberger was unable to take too much advantage of it, but holy cow did Alford look awful out there. Wonder if moving between outside and inside messed with his head too much?

[Tony Diesel]

I have nothing to prove this (and he apparently recorded 0 tackles in Nashville), but it seemed like Jalen Collins saw the field significantly more last week. Perceptions from anybody else on this board?

I know VJax is out and Evans will be Trufant's primary assignment, but still the Bucs' big targets (including Sefarian-Jenkins) could mean that Collins — the biggest corner on the roster — sees more PT.

I know people thought he seemed like a bust in Week 4. Have those thoughts changed?

vaughn mcclure ‏@vxmcclure23 4h4 hours ago

Jalen Collins will remain on the field this week in nickel with Robert Alford inside

[GrimeyKidd]

Yes he starts in nickel at RCB

[falconstwopercentsized]

Trees for receivers, yes.

[TheFatboi]

I think Collins has been playing a lot more than people realize...but it's because they don't notice him because he's not screwing up...which is a good thing. He will see the field plenty with all the spread formations Koetter likes.

I've been telling all his detractors this. They just want to be right cause they didn't like the pick. They're just waiting for him to make a mistake, which he will cause he's a rookie, but they can't get themselves to admit he's been playing well and he's played in EVERY game this season. Thing is they just haven't noticed until this last game.

[ZoneOne01]

Trees for receivers, yes.

Yep.

[brown bomber]

Falcons DC Richard Smith said Robert Alford is not upset at all about being pushing inside in the nickel with Jalen Collins on the field.

Per McClure

I love Alford. A team player who just wants to help the team win.

[TheFatboi]

Falcons DC Richard Smith said Robert Alford is not upset at all about being pushing inside in the nickel with Jalen Collins on the field.

Per McClure

I love Alford. A team player who just wants to help the team win.

It actually makes sense tho. Collins will get beat like a drum in the slot but on the outside he has 3 things going for him.

1. His height

Having him on the outside in nickel gives us 2 6'0 corners.

2. His speed

Not much drop off from his speed and alfords

3. Cover 3

In this coverage all he does is bail to keep passes underneath so it will be hard to throw deep on him. Will have to be a perfect pass.

[Lornoth]

I'm not sure the Bucs even have 3 WR's healthy on their roster to force us into nickel packages. I hope he keeps getting more play time though, he looked good last week and more live time can only expedite the learning process.

[Atlantafan21]

I'm thinking yes because the Bucs have two talk mo'fckers in Evans and VJax.

[Atlfanstckndenver]

I think Tampa's offense along with Kelvin B in Carolina is exactly why we drafted a guy like Collins. It may not be a confidence that his playing time was ramped up right before the Tampa game. Jmo

[Clark Kent™]

Vjax isn't even expected to play. Their only active WRs are Evans, Dye, and someone they just signed off practice squad earlier. They would be smart to try to exploit Evans vs Collins rather than Tru. Collins size could come in real handy against WR's like Evans. But i don't see this game being particularly close.

[TheFatboi]

I think Tampa's offense along with Kelvin B in Carolina is exactly why we drafted a guy like Collins. It may not be a confidence that his playing time was ramped up right before the Tampa game. Jmo

It's because Adams was getting beat in the slot a lot and since tenn ran a lot of 3 wide sets Adams was benched and Collins started in nickel except on the outside and moved alf to the slot.

[TheFatboi]

Vjax isn't even expected to play. Their only active WRs are Evans, Dye, and someone they just signed off practice squad earlier. They would be smart to try to exploit Evans vs Collins rather than Tru. Collins size could come in real handy against WR's like Evans. But i don't see this game being particularly close.

I'm sure that will be the plan. Makes sense. This is also what I was saying about the Tennessee game. If you know there's a rookie on the outside why not try and exploit him? I saw mettenbetger look his way but elected to go elsewhere for a better matchup. I do think Winston will test that matchup. The good thing is cover 3 plays into Collins' strength. Man is where he struggles. If they run cover 3 press he can still be bail technique but not give Evans a free release.

[Clark Kent™]

I'm sure that will be the plan. Makes sense. This is also what I was saying about the Tennessee game. If you know there's a rookie on the outside why not try and exploit him? I saw mettenbetger look his way but elected to go elsewhere for a better matchup. I do think Winston will test that matchup. The good thing is cover 3 plays into Collins' strength. Man is where he struggles. If they run cover 3 press he can still be bail technique but not give Evans a free release.

Lol give it a rest bruh. We will see how he does this week if he gets to matchup with Evans 1v1 a lot. I'm hoping he does. I don't have that high of expectations for him right now, but he is still young so we will see.

[GET-ME-A-DB-TD]

I have nothing to prove this (and he apparently recorded 0 tackles in Nashville), but it seemed like Jalen Collins saw the field significantly more last week. Perceptions from anybody else on this board?

I know VJax is out and Evans will be Trufant's primary assignment, but still the Bucs' big targets (including Sefarian-Jenkins) could mean that Collins — the biggest corner on the roster — sees more PT.

I know people thought he seemed like a bust in Week 4. Have those thoughts changed?

God I hope not. Watch the last half of the Ten game. There was an incomplete pass Mett threw that would've went for 10yac because he was so far out of position. He bit sooooo hard on the receivers head nod that it created 6 yards of separation on a 10 yd comeback route. It was bad bud

[TheFatboi]

Lol give it a rest bruh. We will see how he does this week if he gets to matchup with Evans 1v1 a lot. I'm hoping he does. I don't have that high of expectations for him right now, but he is still young so we will see.

It's not even about giving it a rest. It's just the truth. I know you rewatched the game. You saw what I saw. Or at least you should have. I'm sure he'll get a heavy dose of Evans. Just makes sense to try and exploit that matchup.

[TheFatboi]

God I hope not. Watch the last half of the Ten game. There was an incomplete pass Mett threw that would've went for 10yac because he was so far out of position. He bit sooooo hard on the receivers head nod that it created 6 yards of separation on a 10 yd comeback route. It was bad bud

I watched him the whole game and I did t see that. What play are you referring to?