Draftnut57 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 First I want to say I'm Quinn's biggest fan, I wanted him from day one and was nicely shocked to find out he was going to be the man to lead this team. He's very smart Coach and does what ever it takes to make this a better team. The one thing I was hoping to see with his new scheme was that he take our best O# plays and keep them and add his philosophy of play calling, That way , we would keep those that we won with, Example, the deep ball to JJ. And punching it in on the goal line with our Running game. I couldn't understand passing the ball on the 2 yard line twice on Sunday. Many times that will lose a game. I do believe that Quinn will learn from that and that will not happen again. Or should I say I hope so. I believe this simply because of what he said when ask about it. But the other one thing is , it seems like we have not been throwing deep to JJ hardly at all. And one play last Sunday, he was wide open deep headed to the en-zone with a 5 yard gap between him and his defender. It was a sure thing if thrown that way. And yes Ryan did have time. Bottom line is this, We did have several O# plays that we almost always win on , and one is the deep bomb to JJ. I would really like to see us take advantage of that play and keep all those plays Ryan and JJ had such chemistry on. He was the reason we won the games we did before Quinn arrived, I do believe the change was needed , but I wish we would take advantage of the plays that Ryan and JJ made their living with. Because no one can keep up with JJ when going deep and no one can stop him. Lastly , I don't exspect us to use this play a lot , but I do wish we would use it enough to keep the opposing D# honest and off top of the inside O# plays. In other words, keep the opposing D guessing. WE just haven't used the deep ball enough, because I'm not seeing it hardly at all. I do think Quinn is still learning and Shanny needs to take notice of this fact. If our new coaches continue like they have , they will see this problem and fix it. Keep the plays that Ryan was best at , The deep ball, and then add the plays we didn't use and take advantage of before Quinn and Co. got here. If they do this, I don't see us not going deep into the playoffs this year. Quinn is still learning how to be a HC and he's not afraid to admit making a mistake. So I do think we'll see more of the deep ball to JJ and I don't think we will see us throwing into the end zone when we are on the 2 yard line again. Quinn learns from his mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD dirtybird21 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm one of the biggest Ryan supporters on this board and I will admit he deserves to be criticized right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACK4ttACK Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Just a few things...Punch in the goal line, when were we ever known for that? Turner ?Julio the reason for our wins, what about Tony Gonzales? Turner?We are missing a piece on offense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not sure if Matt can "noodle" it up with the way he's been playing latelyhahahhahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaBoyz Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I wish guys would stop acting as if Matt is suppose to be immune to criticism. If he's playing like crap(which he is) he deserves criticism. Not many are saying he's garage or anything but he is playing like azz & hasn't really improved from the start of the season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoggoth42 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Ryan has been Flaccoesque ALL YEAR, maybe recievers,maybe scheme,maybe its just HIM. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Ryan has been Flaccoesque ALL YEAR, maybe recievers,maybe scheme,maybe its just HIM.Maybe all of it??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoggoth42 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Nah, if it were all of those factors I think Atlanta would be winless right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Ryan has been Flaccoesque ALL YEAR, maybe recievers,maybe scheme,maybe its just HIM.hopefully he can Flacco himself all the way to the Super Bowl. he struggling now but the end of the year would be a scary time for Ryan, Julio, Free & Coleman to hit their strides Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoggoth42 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I don't think Falcons are making playoffs this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lubba Lubba© Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 First I want to say I'm Quinn's biggest fan, I wanted him from day one and was nicely shocked to find out he was going to be the man to lead this team. He's very smart Coach and does what ever it takes to make this a better team. The one thing I was hoping to see with his new scheme was that he take our best O# plays and keep them and add his philosophy of play calling, That way , we would keep those that we won with, Example, the deep ball to JJ. And punching it in on the goal line with our Running game. I couldn't understand passing the ball on the 2 yard line twice on Sunday. Many times that will lose a game. I do believe that Quinn will learn from that and that will not happen again. Or should I say I hope so. I believe this simply because of what he said when ask about it. But the other one thing is , it seems like we have not been throwing deep to JJ hardly at all. And one play last Sunday, he was wide open deep headed to the en-zone with a 5 yard gap between him and his defender. It was a sure thing if thrown that way. And yes Ryan did have time. Bottom line is this, We did have several O# plays that we almost always win on , and one is the deep bomb to JJ. I would really like to see us take advantage of that play and keep all those plays Ryan and JJ had such chemistry on. He was the reason we won the games we did before Quinn arrived, I do believe the change was needed , but I wish we would take advantage of the plays that Ryan and JJ made their living with. Because no one can keep up with JJ when going deep and no one can stop him. Lastly , I don't exspect us to use this play a lot , but I do wish we would use it enough to keep the opposing D# honest and off top of the inside O# plays. In other words, keep the opposing D guessing. WE just haven't used the deep ball enough, because I'm not seeing it hardly at all. I do think Quinn is still learning and Shanny needs to take notice of this fact. If our new coaches continue like they have , they will see this problem and fix it. Keep the plays that Ryan was best at , The deep ball, and then add the plays we didn't use and take advantage of before Quinn and Co. got here. If they do this, I don't see us not going deep into the playoffs this year. Quinn is still learning how to be a HC and he's not afraid to admit making a mistake. So I do think we'll see more of the deep ball to JJ and I don't think we will see us throwing into the end zone when we are on the 2 yard line again. Quinn learns from his mistakes. If Julio was running deep to end zone and open, then that's on Ryan not on playcalling. If it's the play I'm remembering (Julio right up the middle with the defender trailing behind him), I don't recall Ryan having too much time but he did have enough time to make that throw.edit: Looking at it again, first play of 2nd quarter, Ryan wouldn't have gotten that one off cleanly. But Julio was open deep. He got it off just before 3 seconds and prolly needed the full 3 and to read Julio the entire way to get it.edit 2: Actually, looking at it another time, Julio did wind up open because the safety read that Ryan was going for Roddy on the sideline so Julio wouldn't have been completely wide open. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm one of the biggest Ryan supporters on this board and I will admit he deserves to be criticized right nowYeah he's not playing well regardless of the reason. As a Ryan supporter, I expect him to figure it out by season's end though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I don't think Falcons are making playoffs this year.They'll make the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butudontseeme™ Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Nah, if it were all of those factors I think Atlanta would be winless right now.Disagree. I've seen our guys drop plenty of very catchable passed, this is very obviously the first year in a new scheme and Ryan is not playing to his standards. I don't see how that's really arguable. Further, we don't know how many (if any, naturally) INTs were caused by the intended receiver not running the proper route or running it properly. This is nowhere near as cut and dry as some posters like to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shoggoth42 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Check back with me after Jamarcus kills the falcons Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Check back with me after Jamarcus kills the falcons Sunday.Will never happen. No qb has killed them thus far. It's been on them with mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newgafatboy Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 youd think Quinn would have learned from the super bowl about throwing from the 2 yard line.... id rather see a big tyson jackson or Hageman in the backfield....put some beef back there and tell the defence to stop him if you can... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califalcon0013 Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I'm one of the biggest Ryan supporters on this board and I will admit he deserves to be criticized right nowSame here, it's not 100% his fault all the time but he has had too many brain farts this year so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Ryan's career INT % 2.3%, This year? 2.2%2.3% is top 5 all time.As poorly as he is playing, and it's not all his fault, he's still not making as many mistakes as you might expect while learning a new offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Not many are saying he's garage Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Never say neverWinston will never kill the falcons at one time on Sunday. No qb has except Brees and we lost that game because of US. Not them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WornOutFalconFan Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Ryan's career INT % 2.3%, This year? 2.2%2.3% is top 5 all time.As poorly as he is playing, and it's not all his fault, he's still not making as many mistakes as you might expect while learning a new offense.Don't forget about the fact these pics come at the end of drives. Huge momentum swings.Lost fumbles should be considered as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Just a few things...Punch in the goal line, when were we ever known for that? Turner ?Julio the reason for our wins, what about Tony Gonzales? Turner?We are missing a piece on offenseNah , i guess your right , Freeman probably couldn't have run that 2 yards in two downs we needed to get a TD... Nah,, I guess your right, Freeman may only be good for those long runs,, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACK4ttACK Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Nah , i guess your right , Freeman probably couldn't have run that 2 yards in two downs we needed to get a TD... Nah,, I guess your right, Freeman may only be good for those long runs,, exactly, our oline needs a wide open field to operate and the redzone is way too condensed Shanny doesn't know how to playcall in a short field and Freeman is suffering Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATLFalcons11 Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Nah , i guess your right , Freeman probably couldn't have run that 2 yards in two downs we needed to get a TD... Nah,, I guess your right, Freeman may only be good for those long runs,, Well to be fair we didn't pass on both downs.One was a run with the FB and the other was a pass.Even though I think we should have run the ball with Freeman, let's not act like we don't run it normally in that situation.Giants game we ran with Teco, Cowboys game we ran with FreemanOn the flip side Eagles game we faked pass to Julio coming under the OL.There's working examples of both and if it would have worked, then this isn't a conversation.The only thing concerning about the play calling isn't really one particular call but the pass/run ratio in a few games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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