Bundini Brown Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Im not questioning the beasley pick in any way. I like him, but im just curious. I haven't been able to follow the other rookies how I'd like to, and i know the "which pass rusher to take" debate was rather polarizing on these boards. Ray, kikaha, and dupree have sacks, but is it due more to talent, scheme, or team? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 He and Shane Ray appear to be the most effective thusfar. 2 sacks a piece. None are doing anything incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Well, Clowney has no sacks in 2 seasons, JJ Watt had 5.5 in his first season, and Beasley already has 2 sacks in 6 games so he's coming along pretty darn good IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*NiteFalcon* Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 huge learning curve for playing DE, beasley will be fine in the future. no rookie DE's are impressive imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezekiel 25:17 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 huge learning curve for playing DE, beasley will be fine in the future. no rookie DE's are impressive imoNot sure why more folks don't get this. Oh wait... this is the Microwave, Instant Gratification society. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEIST Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Well, Clowney has no sacks in 2 seasons, JJ Watt had 5.5 in his first season, and Beasley already has 2 sacks in 6 games so he's coming along pretty darn good IMO.That's nice and all but he wasn't talking about those guys.Fowler is out for the year.Dupree has the most sacks IIRC but two were busted plays. Gregory looked good week 1, then got injured and is just coming back.Ray just got hurt last week. Sucks for him because he was just about to get significant playing time with Demarcus Ware hurt.Kikaha has been surprisingly good.Haven't heard anything from Nate Orchard. But I don't pay attention to the Browns. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 huge learning curve for playing DE, beasley will be fine in the future. no rookie DE's are impressive imoThere have been a few exceptions of rookies who come in and racked up a bunch of sacks, but you are right, the majority of DEs don't rack up a ton of sacks in their rookie seasons. Patrick Kerney only had 5 sacks in his first 2 seasons as a Falcon and exploded his 3rd season.One thing I don't hear mentioned much, it's obvious that Beasley is trying new moves he's learning. We'd heard former Eagles standout DE Hugh Douglas met with Beasley about a week ago and told him to work on his spin move, and Thursday night against the Satnts you saw Beasley doing just that. In fact, BEASELY may be trying a little too hard and wearing himself out which may be why he had a down game in NO after just 3 days rest. I'm really glad he got 10'days to chill them will have a bye week coming up a few games after that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I know Kikaha and Dupree have more sacks. Not sure who else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) Don't expect him to do week against Lewan. Would be nice if he does though, we can't allow Mettenberger to look like Tom Brady out there like we usually do. Edited October 24, 2015 by Atlantafan21 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Everyone keeps talking about John Abraham this and John Abraham that while never even acknowledging that John Abraham only had 4.5 sacks his rookie year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Just a few pass rushers that could have or should have been Falcons:SACKSJulius Peppers - 5.5Clay Matthews - 4.5Derrick Morgan - 4.5Geno Atkins - 4.0Justin Houston - 4.0Jerimiah Attaochu - 4.0Hau'oli Kikaha - 4.0Cameron Jordan - 4.0Pernell McPhee - 4.0Jabaal Sheard - 4.0Muhammad Wilkerson - 4.0Aaron Donald - 3.5Bud Dupree - 3.0Troffed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 When all is said and done and the braces come off be will have the straightest teeth of any of the pass rushers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I know Kikaha and Dupree have more sacks. Not sure who else.I think they both have more but scheme matters also... the Steelers ans the Saints biltz a hellava lot more than the Falcons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEIST Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Just a few pass rushers that could have or should have been Falcons:SACKSJulius Peppers - 5.5Clay Matthews - 4.5Derrick Morgan - 4.5Geno Atkins - 4.0Justin Houston - 4.0Jerimiah Attaochu - 4.0Hau'oli Kikaha - 4.0Cameron Jordan - 4.0Pernell McPhee - 4.0Jabaal Sheard - 4.0Muhammad Wilkerson - 4.0Aaron Donald - 3.5Bud Dupree - 3.0Troffedwoulda been nice to have derrick morgan. remember they had dinner with him for a longgg time then he ended up taking the same(?) contract with tennessee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tldr Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I'd put him 4th behind Leonard Williams, Kikaha and Preston Smith. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
birdz4i Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Just a few pass rushers that could have or should have been Falcons:SACKSJulius Peppers - 5.5Clay Matthews - 4.5Derrick Morgan - 4.5Geno Atkins - 4.0Justin Houston - 4.0Jerimiah Attaochu - 4.0Hau'oli Kikaha - 4.0Cameron Jordan - 4.0Pernell McPhee - 4.0Jabaal Sheard - 4.0Muhammad Wilkerson - 4.0Aaron Donald - 3.5Bud Dupree - 3.0Troffedchange your panties and move on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Just a few pass rushers that could have or should have been Falcons:SACKSJulius Peppers - 5.5Clay Matthews - 4.5Derrick Morgan - 4.5Geno Atkins - 4.0Justin Houston - 4.0Jerimiah Attaochu - 4.0Hau'oli Kikaha - 4.0Cameron Jordan - 4.0Pernell McPhee - 4.0Jabaal Sheard - 4.0Muhammad Wilkerson - 4.0Aaron Donald - 3.5Bud Dupree - 3.0Troffed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Just a few pass rushers that could have or should have been Falcons:SACKSJulius Peppers - 5.5Clay Matthews - 4.5Derrick Morgan - 4.5Geno Atkins - 4.0Justin Houston - 4.0Jerimiah Attaochu - 4.0Hau'oli Kikaha - 4.0Cameron Jordan - 4.0Pernell McPhee - 4.0Jabaal Sheard - 4.0Muhammad Wilkerson - 4.0Aaron Donald - 3.5Bud Dupree - 3.0TroffedThe 2009 draft will be one that I always scratch my head at. Also not sure why we didn't pursue Sheard, dude has been playing well in New England Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 He and Shane Ray appear to be the most effective thusfar. 2 sacks a piece. None are doing anything incredible.Ray sprained his mcl. He also barely got any snaps. I'm add big of a Beasley defender as any, but there's a difference. At the same time that entire freaking team is different on defense. They gave the studs with Miller and Ware but not counting them and Shane, they have others lighting up the sack stats like it's candy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
knomercy Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Just a few pass rushers that could have or should have been Falcons:SACKSJulius Peppers - 5.5Clay Matthews - 4.5Derrick Morgan - 4.5Geno Atkins - 4.0Justin Houston - 4.0Jerimiah Attaochu - 4.0Hau'oli Kikaha - 4.0Cameron Jordan - 4.0Pernell McPhee - 4.0Jabaal Sheard - 4.0Muhammad Wilkerson - 4.0Aaron Donald - 3.5Bud Dupree - 3.0TroffedAdd any of those guys & their sack totals to our defense and we still are bottom 3rd in the league in sacks.So? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mr Plow Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Well, Clowney has no sacks in 2 seasonsClowney ... seems like I've heard that name before ... but then again .... seems like I've never heard of him.Oh, wait ... wasn't he that "once in a generation BEAST of a player" that all teams were to trade up for?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Im not questioning the beasley pick in any way. I like him, but im just curious. I haven't been able to follow the other rookies how I'd like to, and i know the "which pass rusher to take" debate was rather polarizing on these boards.Ray, kikaha, and dupree have sacks, but is it due more to talent, scheme, or team?Kikaha is beating him badly. Dupree too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHALCONABERNATHY Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Obviously the coaches love what he is doing or they wouldn't let him start and he'd be more of a rotation player. He's in on the key downs and has put pressure on the qb which is what he's been asked to do. I don't think he's had much pressure put on him to perform as much because we're 5-1. He still has a learning curve and a long way to go. Stacking up with the other DE's taken I think he looks the best so far. Not just because I'm biased. If he's not the best, he's definitely the fastest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Ray sprained his mcl. He also barely got any snaps. I'm add big of a Beasley defender as any, but there's a difference. At the same time that entire freaking team is different on defense. They gave the studs with Miller and Ware but not counting them and Shane, they have others lighting up the sack stats like it's candy.Injury, teammates or not, Shane Ray is a savage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 Just a few pass rushers that could have or should have been Falcons:SACKSJulius Peppers - 5.5Clay Matthews - 4.5Derrick Morgan - 4.5Geno Atkins - 4.0Justin Houston - 4.0Jerimiah Attaochu - 4.0Hau'oli Kikaha - 4.0Cameron Jordan - 4.0Pernell McPhee - 4.0Jabaal Sheard - 4.0Muhammad Wilkerson - 4.0Aaron Donald - 3.5Bud Dupree - 3.0TroffedWAAAAAH WAAAAAAAH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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