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Come on over....

Why settle for the second hand site. Go straight to saints report. SR is the #1 site being visited from there.

The user count is falling over at .net. So as we see no one is coming here. Where is everyone going? Logic states its probably Saints report.

Its also not anywhere on these boards. Falcons forums are way down on the list of visited sites. So 1 can only speculate everyone is going to either post about the saints at SR or watch porn. But the traffic is falling badly.

Seems like anything with RC in the name is doomed to die. Its only logical. Look at RC cola. Good stuff, crap sales.

Face it.. in a year or 2 all of us will be going the way of the doe-doe birds.

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I am now over there, and honestly, I regret not doing it sooner. All the old faves are there, the football talk moves a lot faster and if you have a problem with someone, tell them to F off and go about your business. It doesn't tend to get as personal there as it did here. I don't know if people there are just less sensitive and the overly sensitive types that offend easy stayed here, but it is what it is.

What I couldn't do was take being here and listening to WFW trying to tell everyone this forum was fine when the wheels had come off. There have been actual days here with no new posts, and game days are a ghost town. Im not into self delusion.

WFW is a big reason why people moved on, but only because he set the conditions for Tuggle to ban peeps. He baited them and then reported them when they responded. Tuggle was quick on the ban hammer and overly aggressive. People no longer felt safe and that RC was being taken from them. That's why they left.

Board allegiance is dumb, everything is a click away on the Internet. I stayed "loyal" here way too long and missed out on good conversation again. I love getting to talk to SaintRay and kevo and the others again. Even the people I used to hate, like Reece, Willy Mo, Shuswap, and Muskokas Finest I am actually chill with now. We still talk sh*t, but it's much more libertarian of a board, which suits me.

I don't think this board will be what it was again, at least not anytime soon.i said this months ago though. I just wished I had listened to myself and not tried to hang on out of some sense of misplaced loyalty. That and 2 bucks will get you a value meal at McDonald's...maybe.

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but it's much more libertarian of a board

This is what I hate about today's society. Everything has to have a label.

Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal, Man, Woman, Black, White, Christian, Atheist, etc....all ways to divide us.

People are no longer people, it is no longer good enough to be human. We all have our qualifiers.

All in an attempt by the media and government to keep us all divided.

Why must we put labels on everything?

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This is what I hate about today's society. Everything has to have a label.

Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal, Man, Woman, Black, White, Christian, Atheist, etc....all ways to divide us.

People are no longer people, it is no longer good enough to be human. We all have our qualifiers.

All in an attempt by the media and government to keep us all divided.

Why must we put labels on everything?

Wow rave dropping truth all in this motha****a.

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Since my name was brought up I feel I need to address a couple of things.

I said from the beginning that this was going to take time. I also said I was giving posters a clean slate which I stuck by and now some posters don't have said "clean slate" anymore. I was never going to come in and just drop ban hammers.

I also want to say that just because you guys don't see action doesn't mean it isn't happening. 99.9% of my modding happens through PM's and non public suspensions when it comes to this forum. Believe me when I say that this forum accounts for a lot of my headaches as a mod.

At this point we need to face facts. This forum is never going to be what it was. There are far too many options and other variables now for it to ever get back to what it was. I still think it can be a viable forum in time but it'll never be as active as it was. It's time to move the goal posts.

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At this point we need to face facts. This forum is never going to be what it was. There are far too many options and other variables now for it to ever get back to what it was. I still think it can be a viable forum in time but it'll never be as active as it was. It's time to move the goal posts.

I disagree, this is the part that will take time.There are new fans born everyday and this place can achieve what it once had with a new cast.

It may take a few years, but there will be fans that find this place daily.

I was linked to this place from a Cowboys forum back in 2009 for our matchup with the Falcons. Without that link I would have never been here.

Over time others will be linked here and this place will be jumping again. It will just take time....and some fresh blood.

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I disagree, this is the part that will take time.There are new fans born everyday and this place can achieve what it once had with a new cast.

It may take a few years, but there will be fans that find this place daily.

I was linked to this place from a Cowboys forum back in 2009 for our matchup with the Falcons. Without that link I would have never been here.

Over time others will be linked here and this place will be jumping again. It will just take time....and some fresh blood.

We're talking ten years here Rave. Ten years in which there was a pretty strong base of posters in Tatf who transferred over here from all fan bases. I really don't want to get caught up in semantics here, but setting the goal posts at the old RC is unrealistic at this time. It's just not going to happen anytime soon.
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We're talking ten years here Rave. Ten years in which there was a pretty strong base of posters in Tatf who transferred over here from all fan bases. I really don't want to get caught up in semantics here, but setting the goal posts at the old RC is unrealistic at this time. It's just not going to happen anytime soon.

Oh I agree, but I wont say itll never happen.

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This is what I hate about today's society. Everything has to have a label.

Republican, Democrat, Conservative, Liberal, Man, Woman, Black, White, Christian, Atheist, etc....all ways to divide us.

People are no longer people, it is no longer good enough to be human. We all have our qualifiers.

All in an attempt by the media and government to keep us all divided.

Why must we put labels on everything?

It's a description. Why call stuff blue, green, red or yellow? I use libertarian in this instance because it's a community modded board and not really a central authority modded board. Anything pretty much goes without authority influence. Some people like that, others not so much. Me, I don't need someone regulating what I say, but I can exist in both environments. You I don't think could.

Props to Jpowers for admitting what I said when he first came on in RC. Community is what makes a board, and this community on here is barely representative of the word. It's a shame, but all good things in life change.

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It's a description. Why call stuff blue, green, red or yellow? I use libertarian in this instance because it's a community modded board and not really a central authority modded board. Anything pretty much goes without authority influence. Some people like that, others not so much. Me, I don't need someone regulating what I say, but I can exist in both environments. You I don't think could.

Props to Jpowers for admitting what I said when he first came on in RC. Community is what makes a board, and this community on here is barely representative of the word. It's a shame, but all good things in life change.

I was making a generalization.

Literally, my only problem with that board is that I will never be able to say a thing without it somehow getting personal. Just 2 weeks ago Wily came over here and to make some point he said he wanted to f*ck my mother in front of my sister. What place does that have in a discussion about football?

For the record, your comment about the people being here that are too sensitive to put up with what goes on over there, I felt was too far. There are some over there that can't even have a normal football conversation without making a personal stab. As I mentioned above, saying you want to fornicate with another posters mother is way over the line.

If it weren't for that, I would probably be a member.

I do not see where who a person is, what color they are, where they live, what job they have, what they drive, what political party they belong to, and what they believe comes into a football debate. To me, that is admitting defeat because you can no longer debate on the subject so you have to get personal. That kind of childish behavior belongs in a nursery. Not amongst what are supposed to be grown adults.

So, in short, those of us that stayed over here aren't overly-sensitive, we just decided not to play with the children.

**DISCLAIMER**

No, I am not calling every poster over there a child, but just those posters that resort to the tactics I mentioned, and you know who they are.

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I was making a generalization.

Literally, my only problem with that board is that I will never be able to say a thing without it somehow getting personal. Just 2 weeks ago Wily came over here and to make some point he said he wanted to f*ck my mother in front of my sister. What place does that have in a discussion about football?

For the record, your comment about the people being here that are too sensitive to put up with what goes on over there, I felt was too far. There are some over there that can't even have a normal football conversation without making a personal stab. As I mentioned above, saying you want to fornicate with another posters mother is way over the line.

If it weren't for that, I would probably be a member.

I do not see where who a person is, what color they are, where they live, what job they have, what they drive, what political party they belong to, and what they believe comes into a football debate. To me, that is admitting defeat because you can no longer debate on the subject so you have to get personal. That kind of childish behavior belongs in a nursery. Not amongst what are supposed to be grown adults.

So, in short, those of us that stayed over here aren't overly-sensitive, we just decided not to play with the children.

**DISCLAIMER**

No, I am not calling every poster over there a child, but just those posters that resort to the tactics I mentioned, and you know who they are.

Lmao says the guy who would resort to calling NYG4 a slut, whore, skank, obnoxious black b*tch etc at the drop of a hat... most of the times in a heated argument which you would completely bring on yourself. Sometimes you would lead off with those personal insults in a form of drive by posting (and many times quickly delete said posts/threads because you knew you were in the wrong). Cut the holier than thou routine, you're not innocent in the slightest.

Many times I've seen you go out your way to start crap with her, then throw a fit when she would hit back

I actually like you Rave, I'm just being honest here. I think you being around added a lot to the boards... but what has ALWAYS been your problem is you won't acknowledge, or heck, don't even realize just how massive of a hypocrite you are. That's why you catch so much crap at times. Making broad condescending statements aimed at other posters certainly doesn't help matters any.

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Lmao says the guy who would resort to calling NYG4 a slut, whore, skank, obnoxious black b*tch etc at the drop of a hat... most of the times in a heated argument which you would completely bring on yourself. Sometimes you would lead off with those personal insults in a form of drive by posting (and many times quickly delete said posts/threads because you knew you were in the wrong). Cut the holier than thou routine, you're not innocent in the slightest.

Many times I've seen you go out your way to start crap with her, then throw a fit when she would hit back

I actually like you Rave, I'm just being honest here. I think you being around added a lot to the boards... but what has ALWAYS been your problem is you won't acknowledge, or heck, don't even realize just how massive of a hypocrite you are. That's why you catch so much crap at times. Making broad condescending statements aimed at other posters certainly doesn't help matters any.

When people put their personal lives out there people are going to comment. Even I am guilty of putting things out there I obviously shouldn't. However, I don't recall me ever bringing someone's personal life into a thread that had nothing to do with the topic or hadn't been brought up in their post.

For example, it is no secret that I don't like NYG4. However, I don't recall ever blasting her personally in a thread about Eli, Cam, or Dez where it was strickly football. I can't recall one time having a football debate with her where I said anything personal without her either making a racially charged comment or talking about which football player she wants to ****.

I'm not the kind of poster that goes into a Greg Hardy thread and says to a poster "I want to **** your mom". That is what I'm talking about. That kind of personal attack had no place in that thread and was not brought on by anything I said. I had not said anything other than I didn't see the big deal about Hardy's comments. Next thing I know my mom has been brought into the discussion.

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When people put their personal lives out there people are going to comment. Even I am guilty of putting things out there I obviously shouldn't. However, I don't recall me ever bringing someone's personal life into a thread that had nothing to do with the topic or hadn't been brought up in their post.

For example, it is no secret that I don't like NYG4. However, I don't recall ever blasting her personally in a thread about Eli, Cam, or Dez where it was strickly football. I can't recall one time having a football debate with her where I said anything personal without her either making a racially charged comment or talking about which football player she wants to ****.

I'm not the kind of poster that goes into a Greg Hardy thread and says to a poster "I want to **** your mom". That is what I'm talking about. That kind of personal attack had no place in that thread and was not brought on by anything I said. I had not said anything other than I didn't see the big deal about Hardy's comments. Next thing I know my mom has been brought into the discussion.

I agree wholeheartedly. This is what has disappeared from RC ever since the split and I am happy about that. Yeah, may have a few less posters but we can talk football without bringing up personal things that are off base or should be off limits.

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Its not just here either. I commented on something about the Cowboys last night on Facebook. Some fan went and looked at my profile, came back in the discussion, and brought up what I do for a living as part of his argument.

When did it become more about who you are, rather than what you say, when it comes to discussing football?

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Its not just here either. I commented on something about the Cowboys last night on Facebook. Some fan went and looked at my profile, came back in the discussion, and brought up what I do for a living as part of his argument.

When did it become more about who you are, rather than what you say, when it comes to discussing football?

The younger generation has grown up with the gotcha mentality they've learned from the media. In that respect I guess we can't really blame them. It was different when you discussed things face to face in my generation.

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I agree wholeheartedly. This is what has disappeared from RC ever since the split and I am happy about that. Yeah, may have a few less posters but we can talk football without bringing up personal things that are off base or should be off limits.

You say that yet all you do is insult people on a personal level. you're a hypocrite and you know it. what does jbs height or age have to do with football? were you not once banned for making derogatory comments towards a woman. stop it with the high horse act, everyone knows you took things to the extreme.

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How many times are you guys going to have the same argument?

As many as it takes to get you all to realize why there's no one but the delusional old fool and the few who show up every few days for their rub & tug from him.

Place needs to be shut down, as it is all its good for anymore is to drop by and watch the old fool talking to himself. Amazing how you, tugs and the rest of the Gestapo don't quite get that. You try and say you're not protecting WFW, yet you all are the only reason he's posting here, because he knows anyone of us that states a fact about him and his deprivations gets banned. He has no such protection anywhere else.

Ah well...so much for my ever posting here again.....rolleyes.gif

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You say that yet all you do is insult people on a personal level. you're a hypocrite and you know it. what does jbs height or age have to do with football? were you not once banned for making derogatory comments towards a woman. stop it with the high horse act, everyone knows you took things to the extreme.

Again, Syco is right. We are all guilty of it at one time or another. Yet there are some that are worse than others.

If I could go over there, in the football forums, not ABF, and know that I could just talk football, I probably would be over there now.

As it is, I do most of my football posting at CowboysZone, as I have said.

Truth is, this is a ghost town, its nice to talk to the few people that are here, and the environment is better with the lack of personal attacks. However, its obvious it is a shell of itself. I don't even make game threads on Sundays because I know the entire thread will be me talking to myself (its the same way on .net though, they dont talk about anything outside of the South and they are supposed to be an NFL forum, but I digress).

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When people put their personal lives out there people are going to comment. Even I am guilty of putting things out there I obviously shouldn't. However, I don't recall me ever bringing someone's personal life into a thread that had nothing to do with the topic or hadn't been brought up in their post.

For example, it is no secret that I don't like NYG4. However, I don't recall ever blasting her personally in a thread about Eli, Cam, or Dez where it was strickly football. I can't recall one time having a football debate with her where I said anything personal without her either making a racially charged comment or talking about which football player she wants to ****.

I'm not the kind of poster that goes into a Greg Hardy thread and says to a poster "I want to **** your mom". That is what I'm talking about. That kind of personal attack had no place in that thread and was not brought on by anything I said. I had not said anything other than I didn't see the big deal about Hardy's comments. Next thing I know my mom has been brought into the discussion.

I'll say this as nice and courteous as possible:

You know exactly my point with that post. I could have just replaced mom with wife and it would have been the same thing Hardy said. I was pointing out your hypocrisy when it comes to Cowboys players.

You are no victim. You knew exactly what I meant as you kept arguing with me in the context of the argument.

Now here you are pulling them out of context knowing full well what I was doing there.

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I'll say this as nice and courteous as possible:

You know exactly my point with that post. I could have just replaced mom with wife and it would have been the same thing Hardy said. I was pointing out your hypocrisy when it comes to Cowboys players.

You are no victim. You knew exactly what I meant as you kept arguing with me in the context of the argument.

Now here you are pulling them out of context knowing full well what I was doing there.

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You could have chosen your words more carefully, you know what you were saying when you hit send.

There was no reason for you make anything about my mother. You could have used an infinite amount of examples without mentioning her.

That is all Im going to say.

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