Monteg1026 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) There's a good bit of talent in state but it's getting plucked by teams like Kentucky, Duke, and North Carolina. How does Georgia go around keeping that talent in state? Deep tourney runs Consistent 20+ win seasons Breaking the top 25 and staying there A couple SEC TitlesHire Rick Pitino. Edited October 21, 2015 by Monteg1026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteg1026 Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 (edited) Cheat dorm hookers and blow Edited October 21, 2015 by Monteg1026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 As long as UGA gets something from their incoming class they should make the tournament this year. I dont see them winning the SEC or anything but they should be good enough for a bid somewhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteg1026 Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 As long as UGA gets something from their incoming class they should make the tournament this year. I dont see them winning the SEC or anything but they should be good enough for a bid somewhere. ok I'm just curious it's mind blowing all this in state talent UGA does not recruit them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Coach Fox has done a real nice job the past 2 to 3 recruiting classes and the next 2 classes are looking really good potentially. I believe this past class was Mark Fox's first top 25 class and could end up being his best class to date. I really love the guys we are bringing in. Here is a good article regarding the 2015 class and some comments from Mcdonald on the 2016. http://dogbytesonline.com/why-mark-foxs-2015-signing-class-was-his-best-yet-why-it-could-get-even-better-88210/The reality is it took florida a while to build what they did. It wasn't Donovan it was Kruger who got that program going in the right direction. Mark Fox has ticked me off in the past with his rotations and he hasn't done as well with his bigs in recruiting, but i really like the past 2 classes of bigs. plus a number of the bigs he lost out on didn't do much anyways and guys like nemi outperformed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteg1026 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 Ok glade fox remlizes it know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 The problem with a program like Georgia is that in order to improve instantly, they need to have a transcendent top 25 recruit and at least two other top 50s or upper level Jucos in the same class. Then, they'll be lucky to keep that kid after his freshman season. Watch what happens with LSU this year when Ben Simmons blows up, but leaves to be a lottery pick next year. If he can't be replaced, they'll have a good but not great season, followed by less success next year (unless he can find another top 10 player to replace Simmons).Beyond that, you need to have a system of offense or defense that is unique and fundamentally sound like Tony Bennett runs at UVa, Gregg Marshall uses at Wichita State, or Shaka Smart ran at VCU. Then he can recruit to his coaching strengths and run a high level program with three and four star players.There are so many politics that go along with basketball recruiting. Some kids go to schools because they have relationships with their AAU teams' shoe brands. Others get steered to schools by shady runners. If you don't have a brand, it's extremely difficult to build one.Fox needs to get in on a top 25 recruit early - and I mean way early. Kids are being watched by Calipari, Williams, Self, and Co. in the 8th grade nowadays. Fox needs to establish relationships with coaches of schools like IMG Academy and Fork Union in addition to making nice with AAU coaches and sponsors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteg1026 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) I mean you can look what Miami did in the 80's just tell the players instead of going to northcaroloma and duke. Where you beat each other up go to UGA where you beat duke and unc up.i like what fox is doing tho it takes awhile. Look at Flordia Edited October 22, 2015 by Monteg1026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 You can use the pitch of an easier path at UGA but a lot of kids are drawn to the lure of playing for programs like UNC, Duke, Kentucky etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monteg1026 Posted October 22, 2015 Author Share Posted October 22, 2015 (edited) Called selling the program Edited October 22, 2015 by Monteg1026 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted October 22, 2015 Share Posted October 22, 2015 Get high upside, less recruited players who fit your system and are likely to be around for four years. If you have a system. There's a reason why Gonzaga, Iowa State, and Wichita State ball out in spite of not getting four and five star players. I guarantee if Mark Few was able to replicate his Gonzaga success at Georgia, the top recruits would follow him within five years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 basically do what mark fox has been doing the past 2 to 3 classes. we have upgraded our talent. i can't remember the last time we had back to back 20 win seasons in athens. getting our fan's butts into the seats is a big thing as well. i remember after those big title runs by florida just a few years later they were having big issues with attendance when they were going to the nit with billy donavon coaching them. at a football school it is tougher to get that attendance and excitement. that right now is the key for this year. we have back to back 20 win seasons and a ncaa tourney appearance. there is no excuse for our fans not to support this program. that is going to help us with recruiting as well. CMF if he had these current assistants day 1 he wouldn't have had the issues he did early on with recruitment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Positive Thinker Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 There's a good bit of talent in state but it's getting plucked by teams like Kentucky, Duke, and North Carolina. How does Georgia go around keeping that talent in state? Deep tourney runs Consistent 20+ win seasons Breaking the top 25 and staying there A couple SEC TitlesHire Rick Pitino.I agree. If you are serious about winning big, ju gotta hire a crook and and a cheat like Pitino Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 yeah we won't win big that way.. mike adams tried that with harrick and it backfired.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustle Up Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 #1 get you a top notch coach #2 bring in them high classed hoes #3 you gotta keep the chain link oiled..if one link gets neglected it becomes squeaky. My Louisville club got #1 and #2 down but not #3 darn it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustle Up Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 #1 get you a top notch coach #2 bring in them high classed hoes #3 you gotta keep the chain link oiled..if one link gets neglected it becomes squeaky. My Louisville club got #1 and #2 down but not #3 darn it! In all seriousness UGA has no shot with what its doing. Mark Fox is not a great coach AND he's not even in the top 20 in recruiting. If you're not in the top 20 you have no chance. When I watch UGA basketball it is literally like watching paint dry. I hear people say Mark Fox is doing a great job and I'm like really?? Solution, go get Greg Marshall from Wichita St. **** get UGA to elite 8 almost every other year with a punchers chance at a final 4. That's light years from where UGA is now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carter Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Georgia plays basketball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 mark fox is doing a very good job. name the last time we had back to back 20 win seasons.. tell me how many times we have had 20 win seasons period in our history.. check the uga basketball thread I posted plenty about that there. CMF is a good bench coach and his past 3 classes and the next 2 are clear he is building something very good in athens. fox runs a triangle and it can be boring, but it has looked great as well at times. i don't care what style we run if we are winning 20 plus games a year. i would rather win ugly than lose beautiful. we have finished tied for 2nd place in the SEC now in back to back seasons. this year we were picked to be 5th in the sec.. if our young bigs are ready to contribute we could be better than that in what is becoming a much more competitive sec. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustle Up Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I agree. If you are serious about winning big, ju gotta hire a crook and and a cheat like PitinoWrong, these are allegations that are getting sketchy by the moment. Problem is our program has already been convicted in the court of public opinion. Our national title team was made up mostly of 2 and 3 star athletes. We don't get the big boy recruits like the team down the road. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hustle Up Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 (edited) mark fox is doing a very good job. name the last time we had back to back 20 win seasons.. tell me how many times we have had 20 win seasons period in our history.. check the uga basketball thread I posted plenty about that there. CMF is a good bench coach and his past 3 classes and the next 2 are clear he is building something very good in athens. fox runs a triangle and it can be boring, but it has looked great as well at times. i don't care what style we run if we are winning 20 plus games a year. i would rather win ugly than lose beautiful. we have finished tied for 2nd place in the SEC now in back to back seasons. this year we were picked to be 5th in the sec.. if our young bigs are ready to contribute we could be better than that in what is becoming a much more competitive sec.I love your passion for basketball. It is my favorite sport. Listen, 20 wins in SEC basketball is not equal to 20 wins in ACC basketball. UGA just doesn't go through that gauntlet night in and night out. Take for example my Louisville squad. We were trash all last year but came within a free throw of going back to the final 4. I attribute that to the rigors of ACC basketball and before that the old BE. Metal shaprens metal as they say. UGA just doesn't have that luxury. Perhaps if Mark Fox was in a conference like that he could adjust to that style of play and have a legit squad. Well that's if he's any good. UGA plays teams like USCe, Miss St, Alabama, etc. none of which are worth a food stamp. So how can UGA get tournament ready?In order to win big out of the SEC you NEED perennial top 20 classes AND a beast head coach (Greg Marshall). Now maybe this will change since LSU, Arkansas and perhaps Bruce Pearl's Auburn might be nasty. Then we can see how "good" Mark Fox is... Edited October 27, 2015 by Kang Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SacFalcFan Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 I love your passion for basketball. It is my favorite sport.Listen, 20 wins in SEC basketball is not equal to 20 wins in ACC basketball. UGA just doesn't go through that gauntlet night in and night out. Take for example my Louisville squad. We were trash all last year but came within a free throw of going back to the final 4. I attribute that to the rigors of ACC basketball and before that the old BE. Metal shaprens metal as they say. UGA just doesn't have that luxury. Perhaps if Mark Fox was in a conference like that he could adjust to that style of play and have a legit squad. Well that's if he's any good. UGA plays teams like USCe, Miss St, Alabama, etc. none of which are worth a food stamp. So how can UGA get tournament ready?In order to win big out of the SEC you NEED perennial top 20 classes AND a beast head coach (Greg Marshall). Now maybe this will change since LSU, Arkansas and perhaps Bruce Pearl's Auburn might be nasty. Then we can see how "good" Mark Fox is...i understand your comment on conferences, but 20 wins by a team in any of the big 5 conferences is still a very good accomplishment. we also played a good OOC that set us up for an ncaa tourney appearance. We played a very good michigan state team well who did plenty of damage themselves in the tourney as they do every year. Nothing wrong with running the triangle. It's a very effective and we have the wings and guards to play it. We also have had the big men who have done a good job in it also. the big issue with cmf and what hurt him early was his poor selection of assistant coaches. cmf had no idea how hard it is to recruit to UGA for basketball and he did a poor job of hiring. however he fixed that issue with Yasir and Jarvis and these past 2 classes and the next 2 show the improvement. this coming year we will be replacing two very impt bigs that graduated so it will be interesting to see how quickly the interior guys are ready. the SEC is improving which is good and it's being recognized with the teams who got into the tournament last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknøwn Posted October 27, 2015 Share Posted October 27, 2015 Dont discount Miss State with Howland. He should turn them around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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