jboogie321 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The offense has been pretty good this year no doubt but there's two things I rarely if ever see from Matt and I was wondering if anyone had theories. Watched redzone all day Sunday and you regularly see Qbs throwing to their number 1 receiver deep down the field when it's 1 on 1 and let them try to make a play. How come WE don't do this with Julio? The other thing is the back shoulder throw. I would think with our physical receivers this would be pretty hard to stop. Last thing is uptempo. I think we would really cause fits for other teams but I think that will come with Matt getting more familiar with the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaBoyz Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The way Matt is throwing the rock & making suspect reads I'd rather keep it simple like we have. Whenever Matt get backs to his accurate & high IQ QB play then maybe we could incorporate more high risk plays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Brian Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The offense has been pretty good this year no doubt but there's two things I rarely if ever see from Matt and I was wondering if anyone had theories. Watched redzone all day Sunday and you regularly see Qbs throwing to their number 1 receiver deep down the field when it's 1 on 1 and let them try to make a play. How come WE don't do this with Julio? The other thing is the back shoulder throw. I would think with our physical receivers this would be pretty hard to stop. Last thing is uptempo. I think we would really cause fits for other teams but I think that will come with Matt getting more familiar with the offense.1. Julio is rarely played 1 on 12. O-line hasn't been great at keeping Matty upright the last 2 games for deep passes3. Seemed to have been doing that a little more the past two games, I like it. Uptempo will happen more as Matt gets more comfortable with the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggressive Pacifist! Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 The way Matt is throwing the rock & making suspect reads I'd rather keep it simple like we have. Whenever Matt get backs to his accurate & high IQ QB play then maybe we could incorporate more high risk plays.Exactly. Matt has been off so far every game this season, some more than others but consistently playing worse than ever this season. It has to be the new scheme. Hopefully he adjusts to it real soon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Exactly. Matt has been off so far every game this season, some more than others but consistently playing worse than ever this season. It has to be the new scheme. Hopefully he adjusts to it real soon...Good thing is, if he doesn't, we can cut him this offseason and save about $5 million Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggressive Pacifist! Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Good thing is, if he doesn't, we can cut him this offseason and save about $5 millionWe're never going to cut him. Ever. If he doesn't adjust then the scheme will be tailored for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We're never going to cut him. Ever. If he doesn't adjust then the scheme will be tailored for him.I thought it was an obvious joke lol$5 million... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggressive Pacifist! Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 I thought it was an obvious joke lol$5 million...I didn't even pay attention to that number lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jboogie321 Posted October 20, 2015 Author Share Posted October 20, 2015 Exactly. Matt has been off so far every game this season, some more than others but consistently playing worse than ever this season. It has to be the new scheme. Hopefully he adjusts to it real soon...Ryan certainly hasn't been as sharp as years past but I feel like we should take more shots with Julio and Hankerson. It has to be the change in system though right? So he should be back to form by the midway point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diesel_Bird Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Good point. I know JUlio is rarely is single coverage, but i can't recall seing a nice, hard back shoulder throw. Anyone else recall? I see it all the time while watching other games... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
insight Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We are not running the ball consistently which would open up the deep shots. The run game is key because you can afford to take some shots downfield in 2nd in short situations but you have to stay committed to the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PittsCreek Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 There's been a few games where we are dialing up a downfalls throw but either:A) it's not there so the progression goes to the next receiver OR simply not enough time to step up and throw (as seen in the Saints game)We all know Ryan can make the deep throws and doesn't have a lack of arm strength to make the throw but the difference with him and guys like Rodgers, Cutler, Flacco, etc. Is that he doesn't have a cannon where it looks like he "flicks" the ball 30+ yards down field. There's nothing wrong with that but he needs to be able to step into his throw a bit more. I think it'll come in time, we have definitely been dialing up the deep ball, just can't get it off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybird2k5 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Matt is best with play action. I don't think there is a better quarterback in the league that can run play action better than he can. But... In order to run play action, you have to run the ball consistently. Enter: Devonta Freeman. Give him the ball, Shanahan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 2008 - 16 G - 265/434 (61.1%), 3,440 YDS (7.93), 16 TD, 11 INT - 87.7 QB Rating - 72.3 QBR2009 - 14 G - 263/451 (58.3%), 2,916 YDS (6.47), 22 TD, 14 INT - 80.9 QB Rating - 53.7 QBR2010 - 16 G - 357/571 (62.5%), 3,705 YDS (6.49), 28 TD, 9 INT - 91.0 QB Rating - 64.2 QBR2011 - 16 G - 347/566 (61.3%), 4,177 YDS (7.38), 29 TD, 12 INT - 92.2 QB Rating - 65.3 QBR2012 - 16 G - 422/615 (68.6%), 4,719 YDS (7.67), 32 TD, 14 INT - 99.1 QB Rating - 72.0 QBR2013 - 16 G - 439/651 (67.4%), 4,515 YDS (6.94), 26 TD, 17 INT - 89.6 QB Rating - 64.2 QBR2014 - 16 G - 415/628 (66.1%), 4,694 YDS (7.48), 28 TD, 14 INT - 93.9 QB Rating - 71.0 QBR2015 - 6 G - 150/229 (65.5%), 1,751 YDS (7.65), 8 TD, 4 INT - 92.9 QB Rating - 70.1 QBRTOTALS - 116 G - 2,658/4,145 (64.1%), 29,917 YDS (7.22), 189 TD, 95 INT - 91.2 QB RatingI love how Matt Ryan has been playing so much worse this year than he ever has and yet his numbers are basically identical to his career numbers! If he were playing so much worse this year it would be reflected in his numbers. That's basic common sense which is something the majority of this message board doesn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dirty Bird Nation ® Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 2008 - 16 G - 265/434 (61.1%), 3,440 YDS (7.93), 16 TD, 11 INT - 87.7 QB Rating - 72.3 QBR2009 - 14 G - 263/451 (58.3%), 2,916 YDS (6.47), 22 TD, 14 INT - 80.9 QB Rating - 53.7 QBR2010 - 16 G - 357/571 (62.5%), 3,705 YDS (6.49), 28 TD, 9 INT - 91.0 QB Rating - 64.2 QBR2011 - 16 G - 347/566 (61.3%), 4,177 YDS (7.38), 29 TD, 12 INT - 92.2 QB Rating - 65.3 QBR2012 - 16 G - 422/615 (68.6%), 4,719 YDS (7.67), 32 TD, 14 INT - 99.1 QB Rating - 72.0 QBR2013 - 16 G - 439/651 (67.4%), 4,515 YDS (6.94), 26 TD, 17 INT - 89.6 QB Rating - 64.2 QBR2014 - 16 G - 415/628 (66.1%), 4,694 YDS (7.48), 28 TD, 14 INT - 93.9 QB Rating - 71.0 QBR2015 - 6 G - 150/229 (65.5%), 1,751 YDS (7.65), 8 TD, 4 INT - 92.9 QB Rating - 70.1 QBRTOTALS - 116 G - 2,658/4,145 (64.1%), 29,917 YDS (7.22), 189 TD, 95 INT - 91.2 QB RatingI love how Matt Ryan has been playing so much worse this year than he ever has and yet his numbers are basically identical to his career numbers! If he were playing so much worse this year it would be reflected in his numbers. That's basic common sense which is something the majority of this message board doesn't have.Or maybe stats don't always refelect what's on tape? correlation not causation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybird2k5 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Jake Locker is available...J/S Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Or maybe stats don't always refelect what's on tape? correlation not causation Like I said, if he was playing so much worse then how is he still putting up the same numbers he has always put up? You don't need to look at the tape to come to the conclusion that he's playing at the same level he has always played. It's basic common sense that if there was a major drop in his level of play then there would be a major drop in his stats. Look at Peyton Manning. There has clearly been a major drop in his level of play and that is backed up by the stats. The stats in Matt Ryan's case does not back up the absurd claim that he has experience a major dropoff in play. Just basic common sense that this message board is severely lacking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaBoyz Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 (edited) 2008 - 16 G - 265/434 (61.1%), 3,440 YDS (7.93), 16 TD, 11 INT - 87.7 QB Rating - 72.3 QBR2009 - 14 G - 263/451 (58.3%), 2,916 YDS (6.47), 22 TD, 14 INT - 80.9 QB Rating - 53.7 QBR2010 - 16 G - 357/571 (62.5%), 3,705 YDS (6.49), 28 TD, 9 INT - 91.0 QB Rating - 64.2 QBR2011 - 16 G - 347/566 (61.3%), 4,177 YDS (7.38), 29 TD, 12 INT - 92.2 QB Rating - 65.3 QBR2012 - 16 G - 422/615 (68.6%), 4,719 YDS (7.67), 32 TD, 14 INT - 99.1 QB Rating - 72.0 QBR2013 - 16 G - 439/651 (67.4%), 4,515 YDS (6.94), 26 TD, 17 INT - 89.6 QB Rating - 64.2 QBR2014 - 16 G - 415/628 (66.1%), 4,694 YDS (7.48), 28 TD, 14 INT - 93.9 QB Rating - 71.0 QBR2015 - 6 G - 150/229 (65.5%), 1,751 YDS (7.65), 8 TD, 4 INT - 92.9 QB Rating - 70.1 QBRTOTALS - 116 G - 2,658/4,145 (64.1%), 29,917 YDS (7.22), 189 TD, 95 INT - 91.2 QB RatingI love how Matt Ryan has been playing so much worse this year than he ever has and yet his numbers are basically identical to his career numbers! If he were playing so much worse this year it would be reflected in his numbers. That's basic common sense which is something the majority of this message board doesn't have.Wow this guy. Lol. I won't even debate you but I will say if you can't see how Matt is playing significantly worse this year then you aren't watching games. Which wouldn't be surprising considering the majority here are stat watchers instead of game watchers. 😂😂😂 Edited October 20, 2015 by GeorgiaBoyz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Wow this guy. Lol.I won't even debate you but I will say if you can't see how Matt is playing significantly worse this year then you aren't watching games. Which wouldn't be surprising considering the majority here are stat watchers instead of game watchers. I'm watching the games and I see Matt Ryan playing exactly the same as he always has. These "issues" that everyone cries about (staring down receivers, throwing into triple coverage trying to force it to Julio, getting rattled from time to time, ect.) are things that we've seen from Matt Ryan for years now. It's nothing new. That's the point of me posting the stats. If Matt Ryan was playing much worse this year his numbers would be much worse this year. It's basic common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.11 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Like I said, if he was playing so much worse then how is he still putting up the same numbers he has always put up? You don't need to look at the tape to come to the conclusion that he's playing at the same level he has always played. It's basic common sense that if there was a major drop in his level of play then there would be a major drop in his stats. Look at Peyton Manning. There has clearly been a major drop in his level of play and that is backed up by the stats. The stats in Matt Ryan's case does not back up the absurd claim that he has experience a major dropoff in play. Just basic common sense that this message board is severely lacking.You can get off your high horse now. Fact of the matter is he's had a lot of errant passes, he's holding on to the ball and taking unnecessary sacks, and he's turning the ball over frequently which isn't reflected in his INT numbers. If you weren't so hung up on stats and actually paid attention to how he plays, you might have actually noticed something is off.Goodness, even the biggest Ryan homers here have acknowledged that Ryan isn't playing up to the standards he set for himself circa 2012. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRUUUU Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Ryan has had back to back poor games but he has looked great at points this season as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 You can get off your high horse now.Fact of the matter is he's had a lot of errant passes, he's holding on to the ball and taking unnecessary sacks, and he's turning the ball over frequently which isn't reflected in his INT numbers.If you weren't so hung up on stats and actually paid attention to how he plays, you might have actually noticed something is off.Goodness, even the biggest Ryan homers here have acknowledged that Ryan isn't playing up to the standards he set for himself circa 2012.Turning the ball over frequently. He has 6 turnovers this year. He's on pace to have 16 turnovers this year. That's 1 turnover per game. Guess how many turnovers he had last year? 16. So no change there. The post right about this one that you made addresses his play.I'm watching the games and I see Matt Ryan playing exactly the same as he always has. These "issues" that everyone cries about (staring down receivers, throwing into triple coverage trying to force it to Julio, getting rattled from time to time, ect.) are things that we've seen from Matt Ryan for years now. It's nothing new. That's the point of me posting the stats. If Matt Ryan was playing much worse this year his numbers would be much worse this year. It's basic common sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NateDogg1215 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We will be fine, with the running game getting better and better. It will all come into place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We are not running the ball consistently which would open up the deep shots. The run game is key because you can afford to take some shots downfield in 2nd in short situations but you have to stay committed to the run.We're not running the ball consistently.Am Iand the rest of the world missing something here.Man last time I looked we were top 5 in the league pounding the rock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBurdz155 Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 We're not running the ball consistently.Am Iand the rest of the world missing something here.Man last time I looked we were top 5 in the league pounding the rock.Consistently man! We only ran the ball 17 times last week. There is no reason Ryan should be throwing close to 45 times a game with the guys we have in the backfield. The reason Dalton and the Bengals are having success because they are balanced. They handed the ball off 25 times, and Dalton only dropped back 33 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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