My Matt Ryan Observation

[WPGFALCONSFAN]

I was right with you until you brought up the playoffs. Matt Ryan is a good QB. He doesn't suddenly become a bad QB in the playoffs. He also doesn't have control over a bad defense leaking points to the other team. He absolutely wasn't the reason we lost in 2012 because he played really well.

Some people might say, "Playoffs are completely different! Some QBs fold under that kind of pressure." True, some QBs fold under pressure but they generally do it in all pressure situations. Matt Ryan has the most gamewinning drives in the NFL since 2008. He can handle pressure.

QBs don't win games or lose games by themselves. Bradford was absolutely putrid on Monday but got the win. Peyton has been horrible all year and the Broncos are undefeated. Phillip Rivers threw for 500 yards against the Packers and still lost. Rivers playing great and missing on that last drive reminded me a lot of Ryan against the 49'ers in 2012. One play from the Superbowl.

Yeah I must admit you are right here. Looking at his numbers in the playoffs, it's hard to blame him. I think it's more just the outside perception of matt.

I think I just want him to win so bad to prove all the doubters wrong that I put some unfair expectations on him come playoff time.

[g-dawg]

It's not that different than what he did under Koetter, the biggest difference being the rollouts. Both are timing based offenses. The difference I see is he isn't yet comfortable getting to the 3rd or 4th level of his reads. I'm not sure why, but I assume it will come along. He's a student of the game, and he'll get it sorted out.

If anything, he looks better under the "new" looks with 21 personnel and more garden variety WCO schemes than under the "old" looks with a spread and empty backfield or single back stuff. Which is why I find it odd we're using that so much more lately. I'm sure there's a reason why, but it seems we found something that worked and decided not to do it anymore, which was a hallmark of the old staff. Hopefully we'll get back to running the ball and PA from more traditional looks, because that was working early in the season.

JDaveG, you are much much too smart to not be able to answer your own question above.

3rd or 4th level of his (Matt Ryan's) reads? Where is that time coming from? Matt Ryan has never been able to look at his 3rd to 4th reads on a consistent basis - he would be looking at the top of the sky(road) or Ga Dome(ceiling) instead.

[Theyhateme : )]

JDaveG, you are much much too smart to not be able to answer your own question above.

3rd or 4th level of his (Matt Ryan's) reads? Where is that time coming from? Matt Ryan has never been able to look at his 3rd to 4th reads on a consistent basis - he would be looking at the top of the sky(road) or Ga Dome(ceiling) instead.

This is the typical excuse for Matt. How does he throw for multiple 4000+ yards and 20+ TDs seasons by being on his back looking at the dome (ceiling) as you just suggested. Even Roddy said that Matt's a 1-2-3 progression guy. On the bootlegs against the Saints, he had plenty of time to do whatever, so spare us with the not having time...it's old and tired.

[g-dawg]

This is the typical excuse for Matt. How does he throw for multiple 4000+ yards and 20+ TDs seasons by being on his back looking at the dome (ceiling) as you just suggested. Even Roddy said that Matt's a 1-2-3 progression guy. On the bootlegs against the Saints, he had plenty of time to do whatever, so spare us with the not having time...it's old and tired.

bootlegs are designed to move the QB away from where the defenders think he(QB) will be. I have watched Matt and his offensive line for 8 years - probably missed watching 3-4 games(total) in 8 years. As far as Matt's numbers, he has had more pass attempts than almost anybody the last two years when the Falcons were so unbalanced - so it is relatively easier for a talented QB to throw for a lot of yards with a lot of attempts - regardless of pass protection.

When you compare Matt's protection versus someone like Tom Brady - it is night-n-day difference. You watch a Brady game and there will be about 3-4 plays a game where Tom can sit in that pocket for 5-6 seconds surveying the field - Matt is lucky if he has that 3-4 times a year.

Matt does go through his progressions - but he has to go through them quickly and on a very substantial percentage of his dropbacks, he is not getting to that 3rd progression.

If you cannot see the difference between the level of protection afforded Matt and what is afforded many other QBs w/ better pass-blocking lines, then I cannot help you.

[Brehus]

My Ryan is a good QB but makes some Chad Henne type throws some times that make you go what the **** was that

http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-highlights/0ap3000000417285/Vaughn-intercepts-Matt-Ryan-returns-45-yards

Edited October 22, 2015 by Brehus

[Dirtybird56]

bootlegs are designed to move the QB away from where the defenders think he(QB) will be. I have watched Matt and his offensive line for 8 years - probably missed watching 3-4 games(total) in 8 years. As far as Matt's numbers, he has had more pass attempts than almost anybody the last two years when the Falcons were so unbalanced - so it is relatively easier for a talented QB to throw for a lot of yards with a lot of attempts - regardless of pass protection.

When you compare Matt's protection versus someone like Tom Brady - it is night-n-day difference. You watch a Brady game and there will be about 3-4 plays a game where Tom can sit in that pocket for 5-6 seconds surveying the field - Matt is lucky if he has that 3-4 times a year.

Matt does go through his progressions - but he has to go through them quickly and on a very substantial percentage of his dropbacks, he is not getting to that 3rd progression.

If you cannot see the difference between the level of protection afforded Matt and what is afforded many other QBs w/ better pass-blocking lines, then I cannot help you.

Yep +1

[DirtyBird8711]

bootlegs are designed to move the QB away from where the defenders think he(QB) will be. I have watched Matt and his offensive line for 8 years - probably missed watching 3-4 games(total) in 8 years. As far as Matt's numbers, he has had more pass attempts than almost anybody the last two years when the Falcons were so unbalanced - so it is relatively easier for a talented QB to throw for a lot of yards with a lot of attempts - regardless of pass protection.

When you compare Matt's protection versus someone like Tom Brady - it is night-n-day difference. You watch a Brady game and there will be about 3-4 plays a game where Tom can sit in that pocket for 5-6 seconds surveying the field - Matt is lucky if he has that 3-4 times a year.

Matt does go through his progressions - but he has to go through them quickly and on a very substantial percentage of his dropbacks, he is not getting to that 3rd progression.

If you cannot see the difference between the level of protection afforded Matt and what is afforded many other QBs w/ better pass-blocking lines, then I cannot help you.

+1

[TeamPlayer1]

I have a digital stopwatch and watch the Falcons games and time the snap to pass out time and write down each pass play. Then do the same with the Patriots, Packers or any team you wish. It is an eye opener. Matt does more with 2 seconds than anyone. If he had 3 he would be unbeatable. Time them yourself.

[*Old Pappy Falcon*]

Maybe Justin can put all this to rest if the guy can get a shot at wr. Looking forward for him playing soon.

[stldirtybird]

Anyone think he is playing hurt? I remember the first game of the season against the Eagles, during pre-game. Every time he threw the ball he winced. I was like ohh ****. If anyone has it taped go back and check the pre game warm ups.

[THEHEADCOACH]

Its so funny to read these idiots bashing Ryan. A guy alot of young QBs want to be like, a guy who guys are so happy to have him throwing them the football, & coaches love to have as their QB. Only a few of our idiot fans complain about. Just shows how ignorant they are. Ryan isn't perfect, but he is a dang good QB. He is a breath of fresh air after that sorry excuse for a wannabe Qb we had in vick. Bet the idiots crying about ryan, is the same people loving Vick and saying "he can run!" When people tried to show them how pathetic he was as a QB.

Edited October 22, 2015 by THEHEADCOACH

[*Old Pappy Falcon*]

Its so funny to read these idiots bashing Ryan. A guy alot of young QBs want to be like, a guy who guys are so happy to have him throwing them the football, & coaches love to have as their QB. Only a few of our idiot fans complain about. Just shows how ignorant they are. Ryan isn't perfect, but he is a dang good QB. He is a breath of fresh air after that sorry excuse for a wannabe Qb we had in vick. Bet the idiots crying about ryan, is the same people loving Vick and saying "he can run!" When people tried to show them how pathetic he was as a QB.

I love Ryan dude and always will. My only thing about him is getting that ball downfield more. He is our QB and we should support him! Our team needs a ring and deserves it with him leading our beloved Falcons. This day will come indeed.

[quickzero]

Ryans footwork when the pocket breaks down has gotten better. Ryan always improves a part of his game every year. He's a great QB...get over it haters.

[Big_Dog]

It's not so much that some are haters as it is just being disappointed with some of his performance.

[WornOutFalconFan]

I have a digital stopwatch and watch the Falcons games and time the snap to pass out time and write down each pass play. Then do the same with the Patriots, Packers or any team you wish. It is an eye opener. Matt does more with 2 seconds than anyone. If he had 3 he would be unbeatable. Time them yourself.

This sounds like something I would do

[Jesus]

Every QB makes bad throws. When you execute and succeed it doesn't matter. That's how Peyton Manning has gotten by with his career of bad decisions. Now his defense is bailing him out. Will they be able to do that all season?

[*Old Pappy Falcon*]

Every QB makes bad throws. When you execute and succeed it doesn't matter. That's how Peyton Manning has gotten by with his career of bad decisions. Now his defense is bailing him out. Will they be able to do that all season?

LoL Heck no! They are on borrowed time now. That's the thing about the media and the broncos. They know manning and put him on this best ever crap, but I'll take an NFC defense all day long vs an AFC defense. I'll tell ya right now, the broncos will not get past the first or second round of the playoffs. That so called defense they have, is nothing compared to a seasoned NFC defense. I gotta laugh when the media talks about the broncos defense like it's the best.

[Falconsfan567]

LoL Heck no! They are on borrowed time now. That's the thing about the media and the broncos. They know manning and put him on this best ever crap, but I'll take an NFC defense all day long vs an AFC defense. I'll tell ya right now, the broncos will not get past the first or second round of the playoffs. That so called defense they have is nothing compared to a seasoned NFC defense. I gotta laugh when they talk about the broncos defense like it's the best.

What?

[The_Whyser]

Matt Ryan is being outplayed. By almost every QB he's faced. Luckily the team around him is making plays. Whether it be Freeman pounding the rock or the defense stepping up. He's has to pick it up. No if ands or buts. It's time for him to become elite cause at the moment he's being outplayed by Derek Carr and Andy Dalton

[*Old Pappy Falcon*]

What?

Talking about Mr. Manning and that Denver Defense. I'd love for our team to play them in the superbowl. It just get's under my skin when I hear about a broncos defense that's all. I'm not saying anything bad about Jesus comment at all lol.

[EJmusic]

Matt Ryan is being outplayed. By almost every QB he's faced. Luckily the team around him is making plays. Whether it be Freeman pounding the rock or the defense stepping up. He's has to pick it up. No if ands or buts. It's time for him to become elite cause at the moment he's being outplayed by Derek Carr and Andy Dalton

Well, that's not true.

Eli? nope.

Bradford? Nope.

Weeden? Nope.

Mallet? Nope.

Cousins? Nope.

Brees? Yes.

[The_Whyser]

Well, that's not true.

Eli? nope.

Bradford? Nope.

Weeden? Nope.

Mallet? Nope.

Cousins? Nope.

Brees? Yes.

Actually.....

The only QBs Matt has definitely outplayed are Mallett and Weeden. The rest he has had extremely similar stats, but the thing is are Bradford,Eli,and Cousins the company statistically we want Matt to be on par with? No it's not. And the only solid QB Matt played is Brees and I think without question we all know Brees outplayed him.

[Falconsfan567]

Talking about Mr. Manning and that Denver Defense. I'd love for our team to play them in the superbowl. It just get's under my skin when I hear about a broncos defense that's all. I'm not saying anything bad about Jesus comment at all lol.

Have you seen a Broncos game this year? That defense is mad legit and easily the best in the NFL.

[EJmusic]

You said he is being outplayed. I am saying he is not. Considering his only real bad game was against Washington and STILL out played Cousins tells you something. Eli isn't solid? Come on, bruh. I'm just saying your argument about him being outplayed by every QB is false. Only Brees did and that's because everyone and their mom was fumbling the ball and our defense was letting the tight end run completely open.

Edited October 22, 2015 by Lcarpetron Dookmarriot

[*Old Pappy Falcon*]

Have you seen a Broncos game this year? That defense is mad legit and easily the best in the NFL.

Denver always get's a pass my man. They have an easy division they win all the time, and play teams that aren't good most of the year. I'm telling ya 567 lol, denver ain't going nowhere's ( Spittin out chew)