octoslash Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Please. Not understanding the 'depth of the rivalry' didn't cause the Falcons to drop the ball fifteen times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Tell you what. I'll show up at the next gathering and give whoever an opportunity to lay it all out right there face to face. We'll see then how much popping up REALLY happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfalc Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 These things happen. Every week there are 2 teams with talented football players out there working their guts off to make plays. It is impossible to maintain maximum intensity every week for 20 weeks. Some weeks your make the plays or get the breaks that win the game and some weeks they go against you. That is the NFL.They may be scumbags, but the a Saints are a team with an aggressive coaching staff on both sides of the ball and an elite (but declining) QB who has seen it all. That makes them a dangerous team. Add in that they were at home, playing for their season, with a point to prove after last Sunday, playing on a short week (which tends to work against the better team) and with the early momentum of a 14 point lead, and I'm not hugely surprised they won. I'm pissed that we didn't bring our best game to swamp, but the melt down on here is ridiculous. To suggest that Quinn didn't take the rivalry seriously is utter BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Many people believe that Bill Belichick is a serious, objective coach, that treats every game the same. That couldn't be further from the truth. Brady and Belichick live for revenge, and love humiliating their rivals. We should have gone into this game with the fiery hatred that the Pats play the Colts with. We treated it like any other game. Quality post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The head coach is always supposed to prepare like it's another game. The fans mostly are the ones that bring the emotions into a rivalry game not coaches or players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Many people believe that Bill Belichick is a serious, objective coach, that treats every game the same. That couldn't be further from the truth. Brady and Belichick live for revenge, and love humiliating their rivals. We should have gone into this game with the fiery hatred that the Pats play the Colts with. We treated it like any other game. Unless you can tell us the specific ways in which Belichick and Brady prepare differently during those weeks they play the Colts or any other rivals, I'm gonna assume you're just talking outta your a** here.Oh, and BTW, Belichick and Brady sometimes not only fail to humiliate their rivals, they actually lose to them. Did they just not take the rivalry seriously enough in those instances? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Truth Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Quinn said during the week it was just another game. Saints proved Quinn wrongIt wasn't just another game because it was a division game. What Quinn failed to realize is the desperation for the win by the Saints last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Exactly. No more DJ blaring Tupac during practise. These guys are distracted and not focusing on their responsibilities and assignments. Time to get serious.no he needs to be himself. That's what got him the HC job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfan4life3 Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Coleman needs to stay on the bench unless Freeman needs a breather. Falcons have a top 5 back so there is no reason to incorporate a RBBC approach. Coleman had 4 carries for 40 yards. Dude looked great...both need to be involved in the offense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 (edited) Some will never get. Coaches are never held accountable for team failure by some. It's the same with UGA. You are the same issues have after game and many have been issues for multiple years now and it's not the coaches.And herein lies one of the biggest problems with our fanbase.This is not minor league football. We don't get to choose which community college we will beat up on during homecoming week at this level. And one loss doesn't automatically disqualify you from being voted via poll into a nonsense two game "playoff," or whatever that is. Fans who have a proper NFL perspective shrug games like these off. Fans who favor watching amateur children play the game over adult professionals tend to believe that beating a rival during the regular season - i.e., "world's largest cocktail party," "clean, old fashioned hate," etc. - is the end-all-be-all of football existence. Unfortunately, the Falcons have far too many such fans. Which is why our lame, bumpkin fanbase is appropriately ridiculed so often. Edited October 16, 2015 by cooperbh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Unless you can tell us the specific ways in which Belichick and Brady prepare differently during those weeks they play the Colts or any other rivals, I'm gonna assume you're just talking outta your a** here.Oh, and BTW, Belichick and Brady sometimes not only fail to humiliate their rivals, they actually lose to them. Did they just not take the rivalry seriously enough in those instances?Because Tom Brady playing with a chip on his shoulder has never been discussed ever. Watch them play sometime. Watch the game this weekend. http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/110510/patriots-have-savored-their-revenge-opportunitiesThis team needs some anger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The head coach is always supposed to prepare like it's another game. The fans mostly are the ones that bring the emotions into a rivalry game not coaches or playersYou are mostly right. Except Payton and Brees embraced that hate their fans have for us and used that to take it to a new level. Smith never matched that. Quinn didn't in first game. Maybe he will now. Ravens Steelers hate each other with a passion. There are a few other rivalries where the players and coaches feed off it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 And herein lies one of the biggest problems with our fanbase.This is not minor league football. We don't get to choose which community college we will beat up on during homecoming week at this level. And one loss doesn't automatically disqualify you from being voted via poll into a nonsense two game "playoff," or whatever that is. Fans who have a proper NFL perspective shrug games like these off. Fans who favor watching amateur children play the game over adult professionals tend to believe that beating a rival during the regular season - i.e., "world's largest cocktail party," "clean, old fashioned hate," etc. - is the end-all-be-all of football existence. Unfortunately, the Falcons have far too many such fans. Which is why our lame, bumpkin fanbase is appropriately ridiculed so often.That's your opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Because Tom Brady playing with a chip on his shoulder has never been discussed ever. Watch them play sometime. Watch the game this weekend. http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/110510/patriots-have-savored-their-revenge-opportunitiesThis team needs some anger. So, you believe anger gives NFL players heightened football abilities. That's... interesting. OK, then why didn't Brady practice angrier and play angrier against the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI. Seems like that would have been a good time to activate the ol' super magic power chip on his shoulder, considering what the Giants did to him and his team in their previous Super Bowl meeting.Anyway back to reality... I need specific examples of what the Pats do differently to prepare against rivals. Linking a puff piece from an infotainment network doesn't provide that at all.Or, wait... maybe you actually believe that the fanciful narratives created by the likes of ESPN and NFL Network to drum up viewership have some basis in reality? Oh, dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 That's your opinion.Great rebuttal. I learned a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Because Tom Brady playing with a chip on his shoulder has never been discussed ever. Watch them play sometime. Watch the game this weekend. http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/110510/patriots-have-savored-their-revenge-opportunitiesThis team needs some anger. Belichick coaches the same way for every game. I have been told this and I bet Fatboi and KOG can back me up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Great rebuttal. I learned a lot.I'm not doing the research for you. You have Google and YouTube. I suggest you look at some pregame talk by Ravens and Steelers players the week before a game. Don't tell me they don't hate each other. There are many others as well. Now you are right that mist nfl teams don't get into the rivalry stuff like high school and college. But a few do. Saints under Payton and Brees do. It's obvious. Can't help it if you don't see that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 You are mostly right. Except Payton and Brees embraced that hate their fans have for us and used that to take it to a new level. Smith never matched that. Quinn didn't in first game. Maybe he will now. Ravens Steelers hate each other with a passion. There are a few other rivalries where the players and coaches feed off it.Ravens and Steelers have players on those teams that hate each other. Same with Ravens and Patriots. I agree the players do feed off it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcons_Frenzy Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 The team played terrible. Alot of mental mistakes, the zone defense was a joke, the O-line was god awful on passing downs, and a short week got another nationally televised humiliation. You win some you lose some. Time for some no BS practice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Ravens and Steelers have players on those teams that hate each other. Same with Ravens and Patriots. I agree the players do feed off itNo doubt. Like I said, most nfl players don't embeace rivalries like us fans and college players, but some do. Payton and Brees found a single theme they could use to unite the team and the city after Katrina and that was their hatred for all things Atlanta. It's obvious they take it more personal than our guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 No doubt. Like I said, most nfl players don't embeace rivalries like us fans and college players, but some do. Payton and Brees found a single theme they could use to unite the team and the city after NO and that was their hated for all things Atlanta. It's obvious they take it more personal than our guys.I can't disagree with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 I'm not doing the research for you. You have Google and YouTube. I suggest you look at some pregame talk by Ravens and Steelers players the week before a game. Don't tell me they don't hate each other. There are many others as well. You do realize that one of those teams always loses to the other, right? I'm guessing the one that loses in a given matchup does so because they just weren't able to summon up enough hatred to overcome all the hatred felt by the winner? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 So, you believe anger gives NFL players heightened football abilities. That's... interesting. OK, then why didn't Brady practice angrier and play angrier against the Giants in Super Bowl XLVI. Seems like that would have been a good time to activate the ol' super magic power chip on his shoulder, considering what the Giants did to him and his team in their previous Super Bowl meeting.Anyway back to reality... I need specific examples of what the Pats do differently to prepare against rivals. Linking a puff piece from an infotainment network doesn't provide that at all.Or, wait... maybe you actually believe that the fanciful narratives created by the likes of ESPN and NFL Network to drum up viewership have some basis in reality? Oh, dear.Focused anger. Have you never seen an interview with Tom Brady. He's pissed he was drafted in the 6th round 15 years ago. Not even the Pats could go undefeated, and by no means, am I saying the absolute reason we lost was lack of anger or sense of revenge. and you are warping my sentiment. Treating this game like any other game, like the next one on the schedule is not enough. There is deep history with this rivalry. There is a freaking monument to our folly, and underestimation of the Saints standing in front of the Super Dome. The intimidation, softness, and lack of focus was shameful. Channeling that energy into focus and production can be a useful tool, and the Patriots do that. There is something to this rivalry. There is something to the fact that we almost annually embarrass ourselves against this team. Katrina Bowl, Brees's TD record. We've had a few good wins against them, but their wins are historic. The Happy-Go-Lucky, play like a champion, like we play every team, without the context of the rivalry, the history, the issues of the previous regimes will haunt us. Not all games are the same. Some games you have to play with a sense of anger, and pride. That was an embarassment. You can pretend to be above it all, and act like it's no big deal, but it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 You do realize that one of those teams always loses to the other, right? I'm guessing the one that loses in a given matchup does so because they just weren't able to summon up enough hatred to overcome all the hatred felt by the winner? You do realize that Payton and Brees have dominated us? Most games decided by a FG. With NO coming out on top most of those times, perhaps...PERHAPS that hatred gives them that slight edge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted October 16, 2015 Share Posted October 16, 2015 Focused anger. Have you never seen an interview with Tom Brady. He's pissed he was drafted in the 6th round 15 years ago. Not even the Pats could go undefeated, and by no means, am I saying the absolute reason we lost was lack of anger or sense of revenge. and you are warping my sentiment. Treating this game like any other game, like the next one on the schedule is not enough. There is deep history with this rivalry. There is a freaking monument to our folly, and underestimation of the Saints standing in front of the Super Dome. The intimidation, softness, and lack of focus was shameful. Channeling that energy into focus and production can be a useful tool, and the Patriots do that. There is something to this rivalry. There is something to the fact that we almost annually embarrass ourselves against this team. Katrina Bowl, Brees's TD record. We've had a few good wins against them, but their wins are historic. The Happy-Go-Lucky, play like a champion, like we play every team, without the context of the rivalry, the history, the issues of the previous regimes will haunt us. Not all games are the same. Some games you have to play with a sense of anger, and pride. That was an embarassment. You can pretend to be above it all, and act like it's no big deal, but it is. Well said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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