Panthers/falcons

[CraigSmackDaddy]

They're 4-0 just like we are. Still a lot of season left. We'll see...

[Clark Kent™]

So... How can you throw around the phrase "Power House" if you do not have a historic base?

I did not go on and on about Philadelphia being a preseason Favorite, I mentioned it.

And... let's just end this silly debate. How about we do it this way... Team by team.

Lets start with Common Opponent Houston.

Carolina 24 - 17 Atlanta 48 - 21. Both games with the Same players and home games. Oh and since you like to talk about missing players, Houston Had their #1 RB they DID NOT have against Carolina.

Now comparison teams.

With your point of view that would assume

Jacksonville is Equal to Philadelphia.

Tampa Bay is Equal to New York Giants.

OR you can twist this as well and switch the Match ups.

Finally, like I stated before Saints and Cowboys W/o their Starting QBs.

Falcons start slow and Dominant(which of course you couldn't deny earlier) vs. Carolina that had to hold on to win by 5.

Now, back to my Tasty Burger...

Since when does power house mean it has to have a strong history of winning? I was talking about this season and this season only. Power House wouldn't even apply in this argument because every season is different. So why would i mean it like that?

Lol you can't mention that Philly was a preseason SB favorite because that is 100% Irrelevant. Regardless, if you went on and on about it or not. Its still irrelevant. And thats exactly what you did, and then tried to tell me i couldn't use past seasons records (which i wasn't anyways).

And judging teams based on common opponents? No thanks.

How about we do it this way

The Falcons and Panthers are both 4-0. The Falcons have won their games in a more convincing/dominating fashion, but both teams have had rather soft schedules.

Now back to my tasty burrito

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Since when does power house mean it has to have a strong history of winning? I was talking about this season and this season only. Power House wouldn't even apply in this argument because every season is different. So why would i mean it like that?

Lol you can't mention that Philly was a preseason SB favorite because that is 100% Irrelevant. Regardless, if you went on and on about it or not. Its still irrelevant. And thats exactly what you did, and then tried to tell me i couldn't use past seasons records (which i wasn't anyways).

And judging teams based on common opponents? No thanks.

How about we do it this way

The Falcons and Panthers are both 4-0. The Falcons have won their games in a more convincing/dominating fashion, but both teams have had rather soft schedules.

Now back to my tasty burrito

Pretty sure you wouldn't want to mention common opponents because that would completely dismantle everything you Tried to say.

And you have yet to mention Anything to support your point of view, but only "try" and discredit my points.

So.. Until then, Back to drinking the Rest of your Soda to wash down this Tasty burger.

Edited October 5, 2015 by BLowe12

[1989Fan]

Ryan>Newton, Falcons OL>Panthers OL, Jones>any CAR WR, White>any CAR WR, Hankerson > any CAR WR....Olsen> any ATL TE, CAR DL> ATL DL, ATL DBs> CAR DBs. RBs are close. (sorry, on this browser I cannot seem to format posts.)

[MAD597]

Yep, they have had a cupcake schedule so far and have not looked great getting to 4-0 against some of the worst teams in the NFL. Talent and coaching wise they are an 8-8 team with an easy schedule. We have gone through the toughest part of our schedule and it is pretty much smooth sailing from here. Panties are in for a rude awakening when they play some good teams like us.

[Clark Kent™]

Pretty sure you wouldn't want to mention common opponents because that would completely dismantle everything you Tried to say.

And you have yet to mention Anything to support your point of view, but only "try" and discredit my points.

So.. Until then, Back to drinking the Rest of your Soda to wash down this Tasty burger.

Pretty sure i don't want to mention common opponents because that has zero relevance in any NFL games. This isn't college football lol.

I haven't tried to discredit your points. I just pointed out your hypocrisy by trying to tell me to not use last years stats when you yourself were the one who used Phillys preseason SB favorite and Dallas as an NFC Champ Contender etc.

I have supported my view in an extremely simple manner that even you can understand.

Dallas without Romo and Dez and Weeden at QB = not a great win

Texans with Mallet at QB and no Foster at home = not a great win

Philly at home where we dominate the first half and almost lose the game at the end = not a great win

At New York Giants = our best win

In summary: Our wins are more convincing/impressive than the Panthers, but neither of our schedules have been that hard.

Hows that Tasty burger right about now?

[JD dirtybird21]

I'm impressed to be honest.

They have a really good front 7 and with the emergence of Josh Norman they have a legit guy in the backend.

Cam Newton also has impressed me he seems more mature in my eyes and will do whatever it takes to win.

There also well coached they play to there strengths.

The secret for us to get out in front of these guys so the have to run us down then for me the balance is definitely in our favour.

Newton had a very average game yesterday. He's completeing 55% of his passes on the season against bad opponents. I'm calling it now, the Panthers will be 5-3 after their next 4 games and finish the season 8-8.

[JD dirtybird21]

Pretty sure i don't want to mention common opponents because that has zero relevance in any NFL games. This isn't college football lol.

I haven't tried to discredit your points. I just pointed out your hypocrisy by trying to tell me to not use last years stats when you yourself were the one who used Phillys preseason SB favorite and Dallas as an NFC Champ Contender etc.

I have supported my view in an extremely simple manner that even you can understand.

Dallas without Romo and Dez and Weeden at QB = not a great win

Texans with Mallet at QB and no Foster at home = not a great win

Philly at home where we dominate the first half and almost lose the game at the end = not a great win

At New York Giants = our best win

In summary: Our wins are more convincing/impressive than the Panthers, but neither of our schedules have been that hard.

Hows that Tasty burger right about now?

Eh, the Texans win WAS a great win. When you destroy an opponent in the NFL, that's a good thing. Remember that these players are still gelling and building chemistry. They look better every week

[Clark Kent™]

Eh, the Texans win WAS a great win. When you destroy an opponent in the NFL, that's a good thing. Remember that these players are still gelling and building chemistry. They look better every week

It depends at the perspective you look at it. Yeah any win is technically a good win. And especially a dominating win is always good to see, but i would rather see us beat Cinci by 3 at home than beat Houston by 20 something. I'm just looking at it from the level of the opponent. Mallet sucks as does Hoyer. As does Weeden. So its hard for me to just love beating those guys.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Pretty sure i don't want to mention common opponents because that has zero relevance in any NFL games. This isn't college football lol.

I haven't tried to discredit your points. I just pointed out your hypocrisy by trying to tell me to not use last years stats when you yourself were the one who used Phillys preseason SB favorite and Dallas as an NFC Champ Contender etc.

I have supported my view in an extremely simple manner that even you can understand.

Dallas without Romo and Dez and Weeden at QB = not a great win

Texans with Mallet at QB and no Foster at home = not a great win

Philly at home where we dominate the first half and almost lose the game at the end = not a great win

At New York Giants = our best win

In summary: Our wins are more convincing/impressive than the Panthers, but neither of our schedules have been that hard.

Hows that Tasty burger right about now?

No, those are all points Attempting to shoot down my position.

And Foster "did" play for Houston(check the box score since you Obviously weren't in the Building to see it with your own eyes like I was) and was shut down.

My position and still is that our Schedule is "stronger" than the Panthers which you still have not brought anything to the Table to Compare ANY team on Carolinas schedule to be As good to the ones we have played.

And with the common opponent, common sense, which you seem to be lacking here or you just refuse to admit its a good Barometer at this point and argument, is a good comparison. that means comparing, they teach that in College. lol

And as far as my Burger, It is Dog on GOOD!! and Better with your Orange Soda to wash it down!

And for the record, you went on and on about "power house", not me...

Edited October 5, 2015 by BLowe12

[AtlantaFanatic]

And as far as my Burger, It is Dog on GOOD!! and Better with your Orange Soda to wash it down!

It was Sprite that Brad was drinking with his Big Kahuna burger.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

It was Sprite that Brad was drinking with his Big Kahuna burger.

Darn it! I got One point wrong!! lol

You got me, for some reason I was thinking it was Orange.. Well, at least everything else I said was right on! lol

[AtlantaFanatic]

Darn it! I got One point wrong!! lol

You got me, for some reason I was thinking it was Orange.. Well, at least everything else I said was right on! lol

I'm going to need you to know that movie better if you're going to base your shtick around it. lol

[Clark Kent™]

No, those are all points Attempting to shoot down my position.

And Foster "did" play for Houston(check the box score since you Obviously weren't in the Building to see it with your own eyes like I was) and was shut down.

My position and still is that our Schedule is "stronger" than the Panthers which you still have not brought anything to the Table to Compare ANY team on Carolinas schedule to be As good to the ones we have played.

And with the common opponent, common sense, which you seem to be lacking here or you just refuse to admit its a good Barometer at this point and argument, is a good comparison. that means comparing, they teach that in College. lol

And as far as my Burger, It is Dog on GOOD!! and Better with your Orange Soda to wash it down!

And for the record, you went on and on about "power house", not me...

They were contradictions that i called you out on. Or are you saying that you did not contradict yourself? I can copy and paste the quotes if you would like...

And yes i know Foster played in the game. I mentioned it earlier that he played. Accidentally said he wasn't when i was thinking about Romo and Dez being out for Dallas. And it was his first game back. And he did get shut down. As did their entire offense led by Ryan Mallet. I must be different because i don't get so excited when we shut down a RB in his first game back from a serious injury and a bad QB behind center.

The reason i haven't "brought anything to the table" is because i never said our schedule was weaker than Carolinas. Feel free to go back and read where i said our schedule was weaker. I said both teams didn't have that tough of games....

If common opponent is a good barometer to use then how come its NEVER used in the NFL for anything lol. Seems like you may be lacking a little common sense here my man. No one ever uses common opponents when comparing teams. Why would they? Are playoff seedings done by that? No. So explain its use?

I'll save you some time. There is none. Each week is different. Different teams matchup with different opponents. End of story as far as "common opponents" go.

Im enjoying this Tasty Burger w/cheese

[Ezekiel 25:17]

I'm going to need you to know that movie better if you're going to base your shtick around it. lol

Fair enough... I think this Kent Guy has got me reading Ezekiel over here that I can't remember who I killed and what I was drinking when I killed them!

Plus, I love Orange Soda!

Edited October 5, 2015 by BLowe12

[Ezekiel 25:17]

They were contradictions that i called you out on. Or are you saying that you did not contradict yourself? I can copy and paste the quotes if you would like...

And yes i know Foster played in the game. I mentioned it earlier that he played. Accidentally said he wasn't when i was thinking about Romo and Dez being out for Dallas. And it was his first game back. And he did get shut down. As did their entire offense led by Ryan Mallet. I must be different because i don't get so excited when we shut down a RB in his first game back from a serious injury and a bad QB behind center.

The reason i haven't "brought anything to the table" is because i never said our schedule was weaker than Carolinas. Feel free to go back and read where i said our schedule was weaker. I said both teams didn't have that tough of games....

If common opponent is a good barometer to use then how come its NEVER used in the NFL for anything lol. Seems like you may be lacking a little common sense here my man. No one ever uses common opponents when comparing teams. Why would they? Are playoff seedings done by that? No. So explain its use?

I'll save you some time. There is none. Each week is different. Different teams matchup with different opponents. End of story as far as "common opponents" go.

Im enjoying this Tasty Burger w/cheese

Ok, your right.. you have Not brought any facts to the table to support your Argument.. lol

[Clark Kent™]

Ok, your right.. you have Not brought any facts to the table to support your Argument.. lol

Wel lets see here...

My argument was The Falcons have won their games in a more dominating fashion than the Panthers have won their games, BUT neither team has played a very difficult schedule...

And to support that idea i explained:

Cowboys (2-2) without Tony Romo and Dez Bryant and starting Brandon Weeden

Texans (1-3) with Ryan Mallet (who was pulled from the game) and a banged up Arian Foster

Philly (1-3) at home where we almost gave the game up in the 2nd half

Giants (2-2) in New York which was our best win in my opinion.

Lol @ using "Common Opponents". And you also can't say a team we beat is = to a team they beat. For example, they beat the Buccaneers who suck, but does that mean that it wasn't a tougher game? Everyone knows division games can be more difficult, which is just one reason why "common opponents" is a horrible barometer in some cases.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Wel lets see here...

My argument was The Falcons have won their games in a more dominating fashion than the Panthers have won their games, BUT neither team has played a very difficult schedule...

And to support that idea i explained:

Cowboys (2-2) without Tony Romo and Dez Bryant and starting Brandon Weeden

Texans (1-3) with Ryan Mallet (who was pulled from the game) and a banged up Arian Foster

Philly (1-3) at home where we almost gave the game up in the 2nd half

Giants (2-2) in New York which was our best win in my opinion.

Lol @ using "Common Opponents". And you also can't say a team we beat is = to a team they beat. For example, they beat the Buccaneers who suck, but does that mean that it wasn't a tougher game? Everyone knows division games can be more difficult, which is just one reason why "common opponents" is a horrible barometer in some cases.

And my point, as previously stated was that the Falcons Schedule, so far, has been "harder" than Carolina which you Just admitted.

And Thanks for Playing! lol

[MAD597]

The panthers have played the 4 worst teams in the NFL to get to 4-0. We have only played 1 of the worst teams in the NFL to get to 4-0 and we destroyed them. The Panthers looked worse against the worst 4 teams than we have in our first 4 games.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

The panthers have played the 4 worst teams in the NFL to get to 4-0. We have only played 1 of the worst teams in the NFL to get to 4-0 and we destroyed them. The Panthers looked worse against the worst 4 teams than we have in our first 4 games.

Be Careful MAD597, This Clark Kent guy will find a way to turn your opinion against you and make it his own!

[Clark Kent™]

And my point, as previously stated was that the Falcons Schedule, so far, has been "harder" than Carolina which you Just admitted.

And Thanks for Playing! lol

Lol

Again......... And please try to understand as this is the 2nd time i'm having to post this.....Show me where I ever said that our schedule has not been harder than Carolinas? I never said that. Not once. I said both teams wins were not that difficult. As i pointed out.....

You just completely owned yourself several times in here. So thank YOU for playing

[Clark Kent™]

Be Careful MAD597, This Clark Kent guy will find a way to turn your opinion against you and make it his own!

So now you are recruiting other posters because your horrible reading comprehension made you look dumb? lol c'mon dude just learn from your mistakes. You misread what i posted and dug yourself a whole. Get over it.

[Ezekiel 25:17]

Lol

Again......... And please try to understand as this is the 2nd time i'm having to post this.....Show me where I ever said that our schedule has not been harder than Carolinas? I never said that. Not once. I said both teams wins were not that difficult. As i pointed out.....

You just completely owned yourself several times in here. So thank YOU for playing

And where did I say the Falcons had a Difficult Schedule? (You made the Statement of Power House, not me) Or did you just want to "try" to pick a debate and use your sophomoric knowledge to twist it your way??

And for the fifth time, my point was more so that Carolina has had a soft schedule which you have YET to defend as you can't.

Which makes this whole debate silly.

Now lets see what childish statement you can come up with next.

Edited October 5, 2015 by BLowe12

[Ezekiel 25:17]

So now you are recruiting other posters because your horrible reading comprehension made you look dumb? lol c'mon dude just learn from your mistakes. You misread what i posted and dug yourself a whole. Get over it.

No need to recruit, just warning them.

[Clark Kent™]

And where did I say the Falcons had a Difficult Schedule? (You made the Statement of Power House, not me) Or did you just want to "try" to pick a debate and use your sophomoric knowledge to twist it your way??

And for the fifth time, my point was more so that Carolina has had a soft schedule which you have YET to defend as you can't.

Which makes this whole debate silly.

Now lets see what childish statement you can come up with next.

I did not say that you said the Falcons had a difficult schedule. But you are claiming that i said the Panthers had a harder schedule. Its evident by this comment you just sat there and made

"And my point, as previously stated was that the Falcons Schedule, so far, has been "harder" than Carolina which you Just admitted."

And once again..... i never said Carolina did not have a soft schedule or even softer than Atlanta's. I said that both have not had difficult schedules. BOTH.

I did not go into any more detail than that for either teams strength of schedule. Not sure why you would even make that comment "Which you just admitted", as if i said anything to the contrary of that? Just one of your many reading comprehension mistakes my friend.