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What Makes Quinn's Start Different Than Mora And Smith's?


Jerry Maguire
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Disclaimer: This is not a negative thread! I think Quinn is different than Mora and Smith and Quinn has long term staying power (longer than Smith quite possibly.) I'd just like to see this discussed, particularly vs. Mora. He was very energetic and the players liked him and the Falcons started 4-0 his first year as well.

I think for sure one thing that separates Quinn is his ability to put guys in position to succeed as well as his coaching hires fitting in with that philosophy. Quinn hires Shanahan. Mora hired his buddy Knapp.

What else? Discuss.

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I'll just go with the obvious - our team still lacks a lot of long term talent in certain areas (especially DL, safety, LB, TE, and arguably even WR) but we're still 4-0 and overacheiving. Another offseason and year of guys clicking and getting used to the scheme will probably improve us, which is crazy to think about, but honestly this team hasn't even come close to reaching its potential.

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We have a stable, proven QB to run this offense. Vick was a coach killer for Mora, and Dan Reeves too.

Smith had a solid running game and minimized mistakes while Ryan learned the game, and we had consistent regular season success with Smith and Ryan once Ryan was up to speed.

Quinn has a plan of what he wants in each position. He seems much more decisive with what he wants in personnel than I ever saw from Smith or Mora.

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We have a stable, proven QB to run this offense. Vick was a coach killer for Mora, and Dan Reeves too.

Smith had a solid running game and minimized mistakes while Ryan learned the game, and we had consistent regular season success with Smith and Ryan once Ryan was up to speed.

Quinn has a plan of what he wants in each position. He seems much more decisive with what he wants in personnel than I ever saw from Smith or Mora.

Vick didn't kill Reeves' career. If anything, he earned him an extra year on his contract. I agree Vick DID kill Mora's. But, Mora also has a reputation of being a jerk. I think he lost the team due to his personality on top of Vick screwing up

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Mora let his players run roughshod over him. Quinn strikes me more as an alpha male who won't let that happen. But then again at one point so was Smitty (I'll always remember him fondly for trying to take on Meangelo) but age or something caught up to him.

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The team is actually taking the personality of the coach. They've adopted his calling card. The defense looks like the Seahawks of past, and that is something that Mike Smith and Mora never did. Dan Reeves was the last coach to leave a real fingerprint in ATL before Quinn.

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Vick didn't kill Reeves' career. If anything, he earned him an extra year on his contract. I agree Vick DID kill Mora's. But, Mora also has a reputation of being a jerk. I think he lost the team due to his personality on top of Vick screwing up

Actually Vick did kill Reeves' career. When Vick broke his leg initial recovery time was 4-6 weeks. Vick didn't come back until there was only 5 games left in the season. Vick could have easily played much sooner than he did but kept saying his leg wasn't ready even though the doctors kept telling him it was fine.

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Well with Vick I never really trusted him and thought the Falcons couldn't get past the Eagles. With Ryan in 2008 I really thought the Falcons had a good chance to go to the Super Bowl that year, they should've beat Arizona on the road (but the Turner turnover changed the game), Arizona ended up going to the Super Bowl.

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Well with Vick I never really trusted him and thought the Falcons couldn't get past the Eagles. With Ryan in 2008 I really thought the Falcons had a good chance to go to the Super Bowl that year, they should've beat Arizona on the road (but the Turner turnover changed the game), Arizona ended up going to the Super Bowl.

Same here. Bucs and Eagles both had Vick's number back in those days.

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More than any other difference, I believe it is Quinn's ability to communicate to both the players and the GM his exact vision.

He has everyone on the same page. HIS page.

He sets and communicates goals, expectations, and his vision. He places his players in a simplified scheme with a clearly understood role, and teaches them the fundamentals needed to fulfill that role.

He seems to provide the GM a blueprint for the exact type of player he wants, the skillset the players will need, at each position.

What seems to be Quinn's defining characteristic is the ability to lead and communicate.

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In my view all too many people want to give Dan Reeves a pass that is totally undeserved. Reeves needed to go sooner than he did in 2003. And Reeves wasn't fired with three games left in the season - he quit; his departure was only slightly less unseemly than what Petrino did.

I'm not understanding the Dan Reeves hate. He built two of the best teams the Falcons franchise has ever known. Sure the years in between sucked but that is what happens when you're completely rebuilding a team. It takes a few years to get back to being a playoff winning team.

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Smith was good until we changed coordinators. Nolan and Koetter sunk the ship by removing our ability to run the ball, and slowly removing our ability to play defense at all. 1 issue we always had with Smith was the lack of killer mentality, and we could never defend the pass. So far similar issues are still here but at least we are again running the ball. Fukin dirk koetter offense sucked

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Smith was good until we changed coordinators. Nolan and Koetter sunk the ship by removing our ability to run the ball, and slowly removing our ability to play defense at all. 1 issue we always had with Smith was the lack of killer mentality, and we could never defend the pass. So far similar issues are still here but at least we are again running the ball. Fukin dirk koetter offense sucked

Nah, actually the loss of Michael Turner sunk our *****. The guy WAS our team. He milked seconds off the clock, and kept our weak defense off the field. If you really go back and look at those years where we actually won... It was all, and I mean... ALL, MICHAEL TURNER. Mike Smith was right. Just too much pressure from the front office... much like any kind of business these days.

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