The Reason I Believe Vic Beasley May Be Better (At Some Point) Than John Abraham Was

[gazoo]

I loved John Abraham, so this is in no way a knock on his awesome play here all those years.

One if my big complaints with Abraham was that against the best OTs in the NFL, he would simply disappear many times, just get shut completely down. Abraham was streaky, he would sometimes go on a tear and sometimes disappear.

That said, I'm noticing Vic Beasely giving the best LTs in the NFL trouble in his first 3 NFL games and Beasley is NOT disappearing at all, he is making a difference even those he's only got 2 sacks in 3 games.

Today to get that sack in crunch time against Tyron Smith, after giving Jason Peters fits in week one, and getting a strip sack last week (Abrahamesque)

I think Beasley may end up being better than Abraham, and that's really saying something as Abe was awesome. If Beasely can make a difference in games against Peters and Smith, he's going to make a difference in all games.

[droopy1592]

Only two sacks in three games? Against two of the best LTs in the league? I find that ******* impressive as a Rook

[atljbo]

see this is the problem... Why do this.... Why.....

[HEIST]

I mean I'm sure that Abraham got sacks against the great ones too...

[Moist Words]

You love your extremes don't you? I'm happy so far but wow man.

[maxatlanta]

Lets all meet back here in 10 yrs and discuss if OP was right.

[TheFatboi]

I loved John Abraham, so this is in no way a knock on his awesome play here all those years.

One if my big complaints with Abraham was that against the best OTs in the NFL, he would simply disappear many times, just get shut completely down. Abraham was streaky, he would sometimes go on a tear and sometimes disappear.

That said, I'm noticing Vic Beasely giving the best LTs in the NFL trouble in his first 3 NFL games and Beasley is NOT disappearing at all, he is making a difference even those he's only got 2 sacks in 3 games.

Today to get that sack in crunch time against Tyron Smith, after giving Jason Peters fits in week one, and getting a strip sack last week (Abrahamesque)

I think Beasley is going to end up being better than Abraham, and that's really saying something as Abe was awesome. If Beasely can make a difference in games against Peters and Smith, he's going to make a difference in all games.

It's not that Abe disappeared per se. He was still the top 3-5 getting pressure in the league even if he didn't have a sack. Why it seems like he disappeared was because the front 4 as a whole couldn't get pressure. We're getting pressure from MORE than just Beasley whereas Abe was the only guy usually getting pressure. So while you think Abe disappeared he really did not. He was still getting pressure the way Beasley does even if he didn't get a sack. He was just doing it by himself so it it looks like he disappeared. Check his season by season pressures. Always one of the tops in applying pressure. I always saw Abe getting pressure. Never stopped. And this fighting double and triple teams. Beasley would look the same way in that mike smith system if he's the only guy getting pressure.

I mean I'm sure that Abraham got sacks against the great ones too...

He did. He killed Joe Thomas and ASKED to be on Joe Thomas too. Jake Long, the saints LT's whoever it may have been. This is a shtick that FFS70 started that Abe disappeared against good Tackles. Abe has over 100 sacks career. You don't get that only going against inferior tackles. It's system system system guys. And also who's lined up NEXT to you. Do yall think Abe would've disappeared if sapp was next to him in?? No he would not have.

[Atlantafan21]

Can't be comparing a rookie to one of the best ever.

[WOR]

I mean I'm sure that Abraham got sacks against the great ones too...

Insert jake long gif

[gazoo]

Only two sacks in three games? Against two of the best LTs in the league? I find that ******* impressive as a Rook

It's a good point, I'm just trying to say he's doing a lot on snaps other than the two sacks, he's really a disruptive player.

[Guest facelessman07]

Feels like Jonestown around here

[gazoo]

Of course over his

I mean I'm sure that Abraham got sacks against the great ones too...

Of course over a 15 year career Abraham got sacks against the best ones, I didn't say he didn't.

I said often he would disappear in games against the best ones.

[gazoo]

If you people must distort what I said, you must feel I made a strong point.

[gazoo]

Although the term " disappeared" is subjective, I had no idea posters were going to get emotional about this post or I wouldn't have left that opening to be exploited to divert from the point.

It's a fact that often You wouldn't even hear Abe's name over his last several year here when he went up against the top OTs . It's just a fact.

And that point is relevant as it relates to what I'm seeing in Beasley. Why this made some emotional I don't understand.

Jeez

[TheFatboi]

Although the term " disappeared" is subjective, I had no idea posters were going to get emotional about this post or I wouldn't have left that opening to be exploited to divert from the point.

It's a fact that often You wouldn't even hear Abe's name over his last several year here when he went up against the top OTs . It's just a fact.

Jeez

You wouldn't hear his name as far as sacks. But he was always applying pressure. It's more about who was lined up next to him than just him. When has mike smith ever got pressure with just a front 4 without blitzing? Not ever. It's more than just about Abe. When Abe first got here the front four was better than what it was later in his tenure with us.

I don't think it's emotions. I just think it's a misunderstanding about WHY Abe would so called "disappear".

[atlking]

There were some " Worrilow is better than Jesse Tuggle" posts a lil while back too.............lol

[Sponge]

He's on pace for a 10.5 sack season. Really good for a rookie.

[DelawareFalcFan]

this is like journalistic clickbait you dont get paid for, whats the point. how could you possibly compare him to a 14 year veteran after 3 games

[raysnill1]

whoa slow down gaz. let the man get a few seasons under his belt

[Guest Negatorris]

Yeah Abe would disappear against good TEs but when we played the Raiders or Cardinals he suddenly looked like an All Pro again. Vic as a rookie is showing his stuff against great LTs.

[chazbykr]

Beasley is so fast we know but don't forget the 35 reps @ combine! He might be a little light but he's strong as a bull and tenacious. Loving what I'm seeing out of this young MAN!!!

[Wjcorner]

Abe was doing the same stuff as Vic...let's not rewrite history now Vic has a way better supporting cast than Abe had for most his time here

[TheFatboi]

Yeah Abe would disappear against good TEs but when we played the Raiders or Cardinals he suddenly looked like an All Pro again. Vic as a rookie is showing his stuff against great LTs.

This is false. Abe had many good games against top LT's. Again, the FALCONS are getting good pressure from the whole front 4. Something that Abe never had the opportunity to be a part of. He never disappeared. He still got pressure. Even without sacks. But think about it. If you're the only guy getting sacks or pressure if you're the opposing coach you're gonna double, triple, and chip the ONLY pass rushing threat so THATS why everybody thinks he's disappear. Abe on THIS team would be a problem. Just like Beasley is. He reminds me of a young Abe already.

[TheFatboi]

Abe was doing the same stuff as Vic...let's not rewrite history now Vic has a way better supporting cast than Abe had for most his time here

Thank you. It's that simple. Ppl are acting like Beasley is beating by himself. The WHOLE front 4 has been generating pressure vs Abe was the ONLY guy generating pressure.

[gazoo]

I wanted to wait until the emotions anonymous meeting was over to get back to this. Please review what an outsider who writes for SI.COM is saying about Beasley and how special he thinks he will be DUE TO FACING 3 EXCELLENT LTs in his first 3 games ever, getting two sacks and generally wreaking havoc, my same argument above.

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Vic Beasley is a rising star in Atlanta Falcons defense

by curt hobbs

It was third-and-3 in the fourth quarter, and the Atlanta Falcons had just pulled a magical comeback and taken the lead in game. The Cowboys had moved the ball rather successfully all game, and the fatigue on both sides of the ball was shown in the sweat and pain in the eyes of all who were on the field.

As the ball was placed into Brandon Weedens hands, everyone knew that this was about to be the moment when the Falcons unblemished record was about to suffer.

But, then, it happened.

Like a cannonball, Vic Beasley ripped his way through the blocks of one of the best left tackles in the game, Tyron Smith, and with his eyes fixed on Weeden, every Falcons player and fan let out a shout that could have been read on the Richter scale, Beasley preserved the dreams of all watching wearing that red, white, and black.

There was much more to that incredible feat than merely a stop that preserved the game. This was personal, and the Falcons cemented their first round selection that many pundits thought was a reach due to his size. The ironic thing was thisit was probably his size that led him to springing around the larger man, Smith, as he burst around the corner.

What we are seeing is something special from Beasley. He is coming to life and becoming more well-defined in his trade and adding more and more to his repertoire. This could be a sign that he could catapult himself into the likes of a J.J. Watt or, at worst, a player like Robert Quinn from St. Louis.

This caliber of player affects everything in the game when theyre on the field. Beasley is showing signs of a veteran in his first few weeks, and every game he is getting better and better against supreme talent.

To put it into a better perspective: Beasley has lined up against three excellent offensive tackles, making for one of the most difficult learning curves. But what he has done in this three-game stretch is nothing short of outstanding.

It was during this time that Beasley gave a sneak preview of that force he is about to become, and it is now proven that this was perhaps one of the greatest selections for the Falcons in some time in the draft, as they may have a foundational player to build a defense.

Whatever type of player Beasley becomes, it is all but certain to be one that is special. Plays that have been shown the last couple of weeks are all but certain to continue as the talent opposite of Vic is not on the same level as what hes gone against in these past weeks.

Beasley is going to have the chance to show what sort of star he can be.

The followup act to the sack heard around the world will be tough, but Beasley has already cemented himself as the bestif not the second bestplayer on the Falcons defense.