Tribal Chief Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Dan Quinn: 'We just want to be a team that can finish' http://es.pn/1R79L8J -via ESPN http://es.pn/app Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WornOutFalconFan Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I want us to be a team that's firing on all cylinders going into the playoffs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) His defense last year gave up like 10 pts a game on avg the last 6 games going into the playoffs.3, 3, 14, 7, 6, 6, so thats 39 pts in the last 6 games avging 6 1/2 pts per game allowed so even better. Edited September 26, 2015 by Ryan_2.0_WCO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Makes me shed a tear every time he mentions that he won't let the opposing team dictate how we playOne less Kleenex in the box now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Well he's 2-0 so far in that respect. But I personally want to be a team that blows other teams the **** out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snafu Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Well he's 2-0 so far in that respect. But I personally want to be a team that blows other teams the **** out.We all would. It's just an unrealistic expectation to think we'll be blowing teams out 2 games into a new O and D scheme. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 We all would. It's just an unrealistic expectation to think we'll be blowing teams out 2 games into a new O and D scheme.Yeah, I think we're a year or two away from any realistic hopes for blowout games. We need the running game to come along and be dominant, the o-line to gel, Ryan and the receivers to get on the same page with the new offense, and probably some more LB (I'm looking at you Bruce Irvin) and secondary pieces on defense. I'm hoping we spend another 2nd or 3rd on a RB next season to pair with Coleman. Not another small-ish, fast back, but a bruiser who can bust through the line and punish defenders. Making this run game dominant is the fastest way for us to start blowing people out. It will allow us to run the ball late and burn clock, which will avoid 3rd and 4th quarter comebacks, and it will open up PA and the passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl927 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I'm just jazzed to see real effort on the defense this year. I absolutely hated that "hang back and hope for a mistake" crap. It's the difference between "playing to win" and "playing for the other team to lose." The d should keep us in the close games this year... but man, I hope there's not many more of those kinds of games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SyCo Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 reminiscent of "finding ways to win". not another Smitty 2.0 remark, but at some point its going to have to be a team that can start fast, maintain, then finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggressive Pacifist! Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Yeah, I think we're a year or two away from any realistic hopes for blowout games. We need the running game to come along and be dominant, the o-line to gel, Ryan and the receivers to get on the same page with the new offense, and probably some more LB (I'm looking at you Bruce Irvin) and secondary pieces on defense. I'm hoping we spend another 2nd or 3rd on a RB next season to pair with Coleman. Not another small-ish, fast back, but a bruiser who can bust through the line and punish defenders. Making this run game dominant is the fastest way for us to start blowing people out. It will allow us to run the ball late and burn clock, which will avoid 3rd and 4th quarter comebacks, and it will open up PA and the passing game.Not to mention a dominant running game will give our D time to rest. Good post. But I also would like to see us pick up a legit proven pass rushing DE. You can never have enough of those! Anyone know who may be available in FA after this season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 We all would. It's just an unrealistic expectation to think we'll be blowing teams out 2 games into a new O and D scheme.Well until that happens don't expect any success in the post season. There was an article posted recently that demonstrated how important statistically it was to dominate "weak" opponents in the regular season. If every one of our games is within a TD score, then odds are strongly against us when January rolls around. Our history from 2008 - 2012 is literally the model image of this theory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Well he's 2-0 so far in that respect. But I personally want to be a team that blows other teams the **** out.Not realistic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Not realisticBut really it kind of is. First, we have a slew of execution errors that can be improved. Dan Quinn has made clear numerous times that he has much higher expectations for this team continuing through the season. Second, and probably more important, we have the easiest schedule BY FAR this season. Not only do we face multiple bottom of the barrel opponents, every one, every single one, of the supposed contenders we face this season -- Cowboys, Colts, Eagles, Saints -- have all completely collapsed for one reason or another. We don't face a single opponent this season that's currently in the top 10 on the power rankings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I would be perfectly happy if that is what we do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Falconsfan567 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Well he's 2-0 so far in that respect. But I personally want to be a team that blows other teams the **** out.Yeah because that happens a lot in the NFL. Oh wait! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Well until that happens don't expect any success in the post season. There was an article posted recently that demonstrated how important statistically it was to dominate "weak" opponents in the regular season. If every one of our games is within a TD score, then odds are strongly against us when January rolls around. Our history from 2008 - 2012 is literally the model image of this theory.What are you talking about? Last time I check wins and losses all count the same. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 (edited) What are you talking about? Last time I check wins and losses all count the same.http://www.footballoutsiders.com/info/FO-basicsChampionship teams are generally defined by their ability to dominate inferior opponents, not their ability to win close games.Football games are often decided by just one or two plays -- a missed field goal, a bouncing fumble, the subjective spot of an official on fourth-and-1. One missed assignment by a cornerback, or one slightly askew pass that bounces off a receiver's hands and into those of a defensive back five yards away and the game could be over. In a blowout, however, one lucky bounce isn't going to change things.Championship teams beat their good opponents convincingly and destroy the cupcakes on the schedule. Certainly there are exceptions to this rule, including last year's Super Bowl champion. However, in the DVOA era (1989-2014), 23 of 26 Super Bowl champions have had more blowouts against sub-.500 teams than close wins against above-.500 teams.Guts and Stomps, December 2005Follow up article:http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2015/6/24/8817321/will-the-falcons-finally-put-teams-awayAlso, to answer your other question, blowouts do in fact happen a lot, if you are a championship team that is. Not saying we are, but that's what we should strive for. Edited September 26, 2015 by likeriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 Well he's 2-0 so far in that respect. But I personally want to be a team that blows other teams the **** out.no team does that week in and week out, but for us to do that we need Ryan to play at Rodgers level more often and stop throwing INT's at home Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 no team does that week in and week out, but for us to do that we need Ryan to play at Rodgers level more often and stop throwing INT's at homeRyan hasn't been playing his best ball these past two games. He'll rebound and when he does we should expect more convincing wins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 That article talks about blowing out cupcakes. We haven't played any cupcakes so far, IMO.Either way, that's a very unrealistic standard after just 2 games in Quinn's first year. However, as the article points out, there are exceptions. Like the 2011 Giants who didn't blow anyone out in the regular season, but got hot at the right time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted September 26, 2015 Share Posted September 26, 2015 I don't understand any of that article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 I don't understand any of that article.My quote came from the bottom of the article. It's just basically saying that statistically it is better to dominate weak opponents than to constantly be "finishing" games with one score. There's too many random variables in any game (fumbles, penalties, etc.) to say that one team is better than another just because they beat them. You have to show that you can win by multiple scores. Winning by multiple scores tells you that you're so much better as a team than your opponent that chance happenings such as fumbles or PI calls, for instance will have no impact on the game. They don't need any luck to tip the scales in their favor. The team is good enough to win regardless of fortune's sway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 My quote came from the bottom of the article. It's just basically saying that statistically it is better to dominate weak opponents than to constantly be "finishing" games with one score. There's too many random variables in any game (fumbles, penalties, etc.) to say that one team is better than another just because they beat them. You have to show that you can win by multiple scores. Winning by multiple scores tells you that you're so much better as a team than your opponent that chance happenings such as fumbles or PI calls, for instance will have no impact on the game. They don't need any luck to tip the scales in their favor. The team is good enough to win regardless of fortune's sway.I get what you're saying but wins by 10 or more points in the NFL don't happen a lot. Just last week the Patriots were up 32-13 and had to hang on to win 40-32 because winning in the NFL is tough. The talent levels are so equal. It's not college where there's a lot of game where there's a clear cut difference level in talent that leads to a lot of lopsided games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted September 27, 2015 Share Posted September 27, 2015 My quote came from the bottom of the article. It's just basically saying that statistically it is better to dominate weak opponents than to constantly be "finishing" games with one score. There's too many random variables in any game (fumbles, penalties, etc.) to say that one team is better than another just because they beat them. You have to show that you can win by multiple scores. Winning by multiple scores tells you that you're so much better as a team than your opponent that chance happenings such as fumbles or PI calls, for instance will have no impact on the game. They don't need any luck to tip the scales in their favor. The team is good enough to win regardless of fortune's sway.Very few teams in history have done that on a consistent basis.The 2007 Patriots and 2013 Broncos are the only ones that I can recall in recent history, and even then, they didn't win a championship. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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