MattM12 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 OBJ is special.The easy conclusion to make is that his gazillion yard first half was down to Alford, a dude who gets a lot of heat on here. Unjustly.Did he take his lumps? Yes. But the perception doesn't match the reality.We played a heck of a lot of zone (cover 3) yesterday, and switching to a heavy cover 1 strategy at halftime is what changed the OBJ matchup for us.If you are unaware of the CB assignment for Cover 3, it's to bail to the deep zone. Everything underneath in a cover 3 is handled by the LBs, Nickel and SS (usually)Cover 1 leaves one single high, playing more man underneath. So if you follow the logic, you'll understand that Alford actually had a great game 1-1 vs OBJ.(in the second half..!)Alf is much better suited to press man. Granted, he has issues keeping his hands to himself, but he is a competitve, physical matchup for any WR in this league.If we look at the Long TD (don't have the all-22 or pictures yet, sorry, but go watch the highlight for some context), you can see the misplacement of blame in action.Lineups -The Giants came out with 5 on the line in a shotgun set, trips left single RB. TE lined up to the right-Falcons set up heavy with Jackon, Soliai and Jarrett playing the down linemen. Kroy and Stupar stood up in the Wide 9 (Stupar is on OBJ side).-On the back-end, we have the trips on the left side. Outside to in the coverage is Alf (press look), Moore (off), Stupar (in the wide 9)-2 LBs in the middle are Durant and Bradford.-Trufant is chilling on his own.-Beer is over the TE -Rico is setup deep middle.Pre-SnapManning motions the RB out right, lining up over Kroy.The PlayOn the back side, it's a simple deal. Kroy covers the RB, Tru bails in his cover 3 assignment.The left side is where the carnage ensues....The Giants WR patterns were as follows, Outside to In. OBJ is running what I would call a skinny post, 10yds up and breaking in at a 45 degree angle. Middle receiver runing a similar pattern, but breaking in after 8 yardsInside receiver bails to the flat. For the record, this a wonderful play to bust zone coverage, as the flat route exposes what we are in (moore covers the flat zone after lining up over the slot, Alf Bails), and the routes breaking in travel across zones and find soft spots. McAdoo, you beautiful bstard.Falcons are playing Cover 3, zone underneath. So what happened?-After the snap, there is jittery coverage in the underneath zone. Moore has the outside flat, Stupar just inside. Stupar fails to get his depth, leaving the middle soft underneath. He sat on the flat route for too long. Fact.-The play is to Bradford's side, and he gets caught in two minds. He bails to the back of his zone, but hasn't got the required depth. I imagine Stupar not getting his depth may have influenced that. -Durant has a middle zone, gets his depth well.So when OBJ breaks 2 yards after the middle receiver, and straight behind Bradford, the Falcons realise they are.... Technical term = fooked.Pass thrown-As the ball gets released, Stupar reacts from the flat, coming back in. Too little too late. Bradford chooses to attack the ball, resulting in them both being out of position, swatting at air and colliding into each other. -Durant has done his job, and is right on the middle receiver as the ball comes over to OBJ.-Alf played the bail perfectly (don't get beat deep, ever), and does his best to sit down on the route as OBJ breaks in.-Allen stayed deep, and is caught out completely by OBJs cut. He is left on his heels as he overpursued to the right, and is in trouble right away.Pass Caught-Alf is still over the top, coming in with OBJ-Allen tries, and fails, to set his shoulders, but he is off balance and an athlete like OBJ just ate him up. -OBJ gets round Allen, cutting Alf off.-Durant tries to get back, but that is also in vain.-Oh yea... OBJ scores. Cue $hit Ronaldo celbration. Cue TATF meltdown.Conclusion-The play was in trouble straight away, with confusion in the flat between Stupar and Moore. -Durant did well-Alf played it perfectly-Allen had a bad play, which as we know lead to Therize getting rotated in for a drive. He was out of position, too deep, overpursued, and got caught on his heels. It's to be expected, he's raw.-Bradford miss-read the pass, didn't get his depth, and generally had a mare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lubba Lubba© Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Interesting and easy to visualize. Looking forward to some telestrator pics! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I noticed Durant bail out and cover underneath of ODB a lot in the second half, too. Beckham was killing Alford in the first half with hitches and outs. Moving Durant there took those two routes away. Solid game planning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 I noticed Durant bail out and cover underneath of ODB a lot in the second half, too. Beckham was killing Alford in the first half with hitches and outs. Moving Durant there took those two routes away. Solid game planning. It's nice to have half time adjustments that work... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xiv_T_E_C_O_ Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Breakdown on point, great post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califalcon0013 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 It's nice to have half time adjustments that work...Right.giants had no answer for it in the 2nd half obj had only one catch even though he was still lined up only on the #2 cb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 I noticed Durant bail out and cover underneath of ODB a lot in the second half, too. Beckham was killing Alford in the first half with hitches and outs. Moving Durant there took those two routes away. Solid game planning. I love Durant man....Huge improvement in coverage, his closing speed is very impressive. Great pickup if he can stay healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 A gif of the play would have been the icing on the cake, for Lamar Holmes fat @ss to eat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 A gif of the play would have been the icing on the cake, for Lamar Holmes fat @ss to eat.agreed man, ATLJBO where you at Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 A gif of the play would have been the icing on the cake, for Lamar Holmes fat @ss to eat.edit, I found one, but annoyingly it skips the setup of the play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 We got beat it happensabsolutely, it was a lovely throw by Eli, a crisp route by OBJ, and great balanced running.My point was to break down the play and highlight where the mistakes came.Because sometimes it isn't what people assume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Good break down and spot on. It was on Allen to make the play and he didn't. It was set up to get him 1v1 in the open field and he just whiffed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 So what you're saying is......... Allen is trash. We might as well cut HIM. /P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 So what you're saying is......... Allen is trash. We might as well cut HIM. /P Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Good break down and spot on. It was on Allen to make the play and he didn't. It was set up to get him 1v1 in the open field and he just whiffed.Worse, he picked the only other defender who could have helped. I love the 3 deep, 4 under coverage by the way. Barring a Charlie Foxtrot like this, it should usually limit big plays and bait quarterbacks into mistakes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Nice breakdown. I for one never blamed Alf for that TD. Clearly that was on Allen he made the mistake of playing the ball instead of the receiver. He should have known he wasn't going to stop the completion so he should've focused on stopping the yards after the catch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talen Kylon Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I appreciate the breakdown. I was one that blamed Alford, so thank you for showing me I was wrong and why. Breakdowns like this are the main reason I come to these forums, we need more of them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five_Fifs Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Rico makes a tackle and we're talking about a 15 yard play.....Even before your post, I felt Alford played a solid game. Eli fit the ball in to some tight windows where it took a great pass to beat great coverage (Donnell TD for example). Nice job Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThePiszOuttaTheBall Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Nice breakdown. I for one never blamed Alf for that TD. Clearly that was on Allen he made the mistake of playing the ball instead of the receiver. He should have known he wasn't going to stop the completion so he should've focused on stopping the yards after the catch.I thought so too. He is the "safety" after all. But I think maybe he was late in coverage, so he tried to make up for it with the quick hit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThePiszOuttaTheBall Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Even before your post, I felt Alford played a solid game. I agree somewhat. Alford was almost always right there in coverage. More than half of the passes completed on him had to be perfect throws or he would have batted them away.But ... he gave up a lot of yards. I think there's room for improvement. But I believe he will get there. Like always, he seems just inches from being a top notch corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I agree somewhat. Alford was almost always right there in coverage. More than half of the passes completed on him had to be perfect throws or he would have batted them away.But ... he gave up a lot of yards. I think there's room for improvement. But I believe he will get there. Like always, he seems just inches from being a top notch corner.Not true. We've established the 67 yarder wasn't on him. That leaves 79 yards. OBJ beat Adams for a few plays too. So Alford allowed less than 70 yards to a top 5 WR. But you're right, he was always there. He played a little soft early on, but once he tightened up and trusted himself, OBJ disappeared. That's encouraging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 Not true. We've established the 67 yarder wasn't on him. That leaves 79 yards. OBJ beat Adams for a few plays too. So Alford allowed less than 70 yards to a top 5 WR. But you're right, he was always there. He played a little soft early on, but once he tightened up and trusted himself, OBJ disappeared. That's encouraging. yea Adams was walking away after conceding a 1st down a couple of times if I recall correctly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 22, 2015 Author Share Posted September 22, 2015 I thought so too. He is the "safety" after all. But I think maybe he was late in coverage, so he tried to make up for it with the quick hit.Ding Ding Ding!-If people watch the tape you can see what happens.-He looks a bit too deep imo, especially for the routes the Giants were running.-He then over-pursues, assuming OBJ is staying outside on a 'go'-As soon as the cut happens and the ball is released, Rico knows he has overrun the route, ends up on his heels, and before he can adjust and get in a good spot, he just gets flat out sidestepped. -Great play by OBJ(you can see him shift and try to hit on the GIF, but you really need to watch the video to see him get out of sorts. Look for him early, ignore the rest of the play) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califalcon0013 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Nice breakdown. I for one never blamed Alf for that TD. Clearly that was on Allen he made the mistake of playing the ball instead of the receiver. He should have known he wasn't going to stop the completion so he should've focused on stopping the yards after the catch.Yeah bad angle.i blame willy mo for allowing that drive to stay alive with his ****** tackle attempt the play before on 3rd and long when all he had to do was wrap up instead he goes for the kill shot smh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThePiszOuttaTheBall Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yeah bad angle.i blame willy mo for allowing that drive to stay alive with his ****** tackle attempt the play before on 3rd and long when all he had to do was wrap up instead he goes for the kill shot smhYep, definitely. That drive should've been over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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