TheFatboi Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Totally off topic but your post reminded me, I'm guessing you listened to K Lamar's record this year...I swear I must've played that nearly a hundred times already, so good all the way through.Actually I haven't heard K Dot whole album. What I have heard is good tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Actually I haven't heard K Dot whole album. What I have heard is good tho.Yeah, common expression but still brought it right to mind Arguably one of the most important albums of the decade imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Yeah, common expression but still brought it right to mindhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ik9w7RfnKVEArguably one of the most important albums of the decade imo.Yea this one is dope!! Had that classic hip hop sound to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wjcorner Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Totally off topic but your post reminded me, I'm guessing you listened to K Lamar's record this year...I swear I must've played that nearly a hundred times already, so good all the way through.Instaclassic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I mean Allen cut Alford off. Everything else was the angle. Have you ever played football and tried to catch a guy running full speed from one side of the field to the other side of the field? Hard to do. Again, irrelevant to the point I was making. Which was about Moore. And yes I have. It is difficult, but that's a play Allen and any other safety in the league has to make. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAN_QUINNING Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 This team is playing with heart. I LOVE what I see so far from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattM12 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Totally off topic but your post reminded me, I'm guessing you listened to K Lamar's record this year...I swear I must've played that nearly a hundred times already, so good all the way through.You know I really preferred good kid maad city.I really wanted to love the new album. But something is missing for me. Can't put my finger on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Again, irrelevant to the point I was making. Which was about Moore. And yes I have. It is difficult, but that's a play Allen and any other safety in the league has to make.And that as my point. You said Alford was watching. I said Allen cut his angle off to the tackle so he wasn't watching. He was cut off from making the tackle by a teammate. After that the chase began. What am I missing? I swore I responded to you saying Alford was doing too much watching and I gave you the reason he seemed to be watching. First I told you it wasn't his coverage assignment. You came back with he was doing to much watching. I told you Allen cut his path to OBJ off and I'm still missing your point? I'm sorry. What was your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethanga62890 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 One of the Falcons fans favorite plays of all time is a Safety by the name of Ronnie Lott missing a tackle while going for a kill shot on William Andrews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcanuck Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 And that as my point. You said Alford was watching. I said Allen cut his angle off to the tackle so he wasn't watching. He was cut off from making the tackle by a teammate. After that the chase began. What am I missing? I swore I responded to you saying Alford was doing too much watching and I gave you the reason he seemed to be watching. First I told you it wasn't his coverage assignment. You came back with he was doing to much watching. I told you Allen cut his path to OBJ off and I'm still missing your point? I'm sorry. What was your point?My point is I was never making a point about Alford or Allen. I was making a point about Moore. And how people are too critical of him and that ODB's TD was absolutely not Moore's fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 His head wasn't down. I just looked at it. He had the perfect angle and the perfect set up and Vereen did a spin and got out of his grasp.look like he dipped his head right before contact to me. But he still didn't break down though. You would have to run sprints for that at my school Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ltstorm2 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 On the Moore tackle it looked to me like he was looking to lower the boom but then decided he needed to break down and wrap up but between not being able to open up wide and Shane spinning away, Moore was out levereged. I think if he committed to one or the other it would have been fine but the split indecision allowed that 3rd down completion. Situational awareness should have told him to wrap up especially since it was 3rd down. 1st or 2nd down...lay the wood. 3rd down? Get off the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
southernscot Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Moore wasn't exactly blame-free. The 67-yarder to OBJ wasn't his fault, but he missed at least two tackles on Vereen that led to first downs. That being said, whatever he said in the second half seemed to work. Moore's leadership is a welcome sight for a secondary that has some talent, but is pretty green. I agree with north falcon's earlier post. Moore could be one of the franchise's all-time greats when all is said and done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJmusic Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 Moore wasn't exactly blame-free. The 67-yarder to OBJ wasn't his fault, but he missed at least two tackles on Vereen that led to first downs. That being said, whatever he said in the second half seemed to work. Moore's leadership is a welcome sight for a secondary that has some talent, but is pretty green. I agree with north falcon's earlier post. Moore could be one of the franchise's all-time greats when all is said and done. He missed one tackle, Worrilow missed a couple as well against Vereen. He was very slippery on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybird2k5 Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I hate to tell you all but Moore wasn't going for a big hit when he missed that tackle. He was attempting to wrap up but he went high instead of low and Vareen was able to shake loose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faithful Falcon Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I read this and thought of his missed tackle on Vereen when it was 3rd and 5..tried to take his head off rather than come in low and wrap him up. So instead of giants punting Beckham broke free for the big score a few plays later.this is true. Who cares about who's a vocal leader? Brooking was too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 I hate to tell you all but Moore wasn't going for a big hit when he missed that tackle. He was attempting to wrap up but he went high instead of low and Vareen was able to shake loose.Thats exactly what I saw. Moore wasnt trying to go for a big hit at all. If anything he was a bit too high on the attempt and Vereen was able to spin out. To me that was a good play by Vereen, who by the way is no slouch. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 On the Moore tackle it looked to me like he was looking to lower the boom but then decided he needed to break down and wrap up but between not being able to open up wide and Shane spinning away, Moore was out levereged. I think if he committed to one or the other it would have been fine but the split indecision allowed that 3rd down completion. Situational awareness should have told him to wrap up especially since it was 3rd down. 1st or 2nd down...lay the wood. 3rd down? Get off the field.Wouldn't have mattered. It's hard to wrap a guy that spins. I used to do it all the time. The ONLY way to tackle a spinner is to crash into him BEFORE he makes the spin or wrap him before he spins. Other than that you have to completely take his legs. It's an art to spinning. You have to spin at the right moment and it won't matter who the tackler is or what form, how low, how high he's going. Vereen timed his spin at the right moment. Good play by him. And this is not an excuse for Moore. It's more of a compliment to vereen because I did this exact same thing to many guys when I played. Barry Sanders was the master of the spin. How many guys did HE make miss?? HOF'ers included?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 look like he dipped his head right before contact to me. But he still didn't break down though. You would have to run sprints for that at my schoolI've rewatched it multiple times. Never saw a head dip. Just saw Vereen time the spin perfectly. He was literally looking at vereen while he was trying to make the tackle. If it were Jennings or Williams it's a tackle. It's no different than how Sproles makes ppl miss. Ask me?? I was a smaller back. Sometimes the break down is exactly why I shook guys. The best tacklers on me were guys that crashed into me before I could make a move. Us smaller backs are actually LOOKING for you to break down. Even when it comes to breaking down you have to know when and how to break down. There's always a counter for whatever a defensive player does on the field. I've bounced off guys that wouldn't wrap, I've spun away from guys that tried to form tackle me, I've juked a guys that try to form tackle me, and I've been blown up by guys that didn't break down on me so I could time his move. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 look like he dipped his head right before contact to me. But he still didn't break down though. You would have to run sprints for that at my schoolAnd I understand about sprints. I've made plenty of guys have to run sprints but it wasn't their fault. If Moore or anybody else wants to know how to tackle shifty guys they should watch film on Ray Lewis. On a play like that Ray would not have broken down. He would've crashed the runner without giving him a chance to spin. If you watch highlights of Ray he rarely broke down when guys tried to put a move on him and he even talks sh*t about after the plays when he's miked up. Has he been shaken?? Yes, of course. They all have. But he was a guy that was less shaken and knew how to deal with shifty guys. It's just hard to make open field tackles on shifty guys. Ask guys that have tried to blast Devin Hester. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted September 22, 2015 Share Posted September 22, 2015 this is true. Who cares about who's a vocal leader? Brooking was too.He didn't try to take his head off. Re watch the play. Vereen put a spin move on him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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