JG2008 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) If Coleman's rib injury is going to keep him out for several weeks or more should we try to get Antone Smith back if he is healthy now or just get bring up an RB from the practice squad or just leave it at 2 RB's for the next several games ---Freeman and Terron Ward Edited September 21, 2015 by JG2008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Gillislee is on PS as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG2008 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 (edited) Antone got paid an injury settlement, what are the repercussions and the legality of that? http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/what-is-an-injury-settlement/What is an injury settlement?As each NFL team tweaks their 53-man roster this week, there is still a steady amt of negotiations going on between agents and salary cap managers. Some teams are still rounding off their practice squads and building their emergency short list. The other lesser known activity is the negotiation of injury settlements.Injury settlements are agreements between players and teams spelling out compensation and other terms in which the two parties will immediately part ways. For example, if a player suffered a preseason injury such as a knee MCL partial tear, it usually takes about six weeks to heal and for the player to get back to full strength. If the player sustained the injury in the final week of the preseason (7 days prior to the 53 cut down date) and all parties agreed it would take six weeks for a full recovery, the parties may agree on a five week regular game settlement. A five-week settlement is appropriate because the first week of the six weeks is still during the preseason. Thus, the player would have most likely missed five weeks of the regular season on the inactive or the injured reserved list. Therefore, the team will pay the player for those five weeks in trade for a full release of liability. So the player will be paid 5/17th of his salary (there are 17 weeks in the season.)Here are some typical terms and/or components of an injury settlement:-Player and his representatives release team, doctor, trainers and teams agents from all liability associated with the injury.-Team will be responsible for the costs of all second medical opinions, rehabilitation, medical and related expenses. A player may choose to rehab his injury at a place of his own choice. Player acknowledges that he has hereby been given notice that he may have rights under the applicable Workers Compensation laws of the state in which the team resides.-Offset language preventing a player from double dipping. It usually goes like this:The parties further agree if Player signs a new contract with another NFL Team during the first five weeks (using our MCL example) of the 2014 NFL Regular Season, Clubs obligation shall be reduced by the amount of any contractual compensation (including, without limitation, salary, signing, reporting, option and/or incentive bonuses) received or earned by Player from such other NFL Team and Player shall reimburse Club for any such amounts previously paid by Club.Injury settlements are used in lieu of placing a player on the Injured Reserve (IR) until he is healthy enough to be released. If an injury is deemed to take longer than 17 weeks to recover the player will be placed on IR for the season and receive his full salary (unless he has a split contract). Injury settlements are also used to lighten the load of the training room. If a team has six players who have injuries that require rehabilitation it will tie up the time and resources of the training room. Teams want to move on from players they think wouldnt have made their team, are expendable talents and/or are easily replaceable.Injury settlements can also give a team a chance at getting a player back during that same season. There is a rule in place that the team (agreeing to a settlement) cant resign that player until a minimum of six weeks passes following the amount of weeks of the initial settlement. So for our MCL example, the team cannot resign that player for the first eleven weeks. For a player who did a three week/3 game settlement, his team cant sign him back until after week nine. However, the player is free to sign with another team.If a player, usually upon the advice of his agent, doesnt want to do an injury settlement, its the teams obligation to rehab and give him medical treatment. Once the team and the teams physician deem the player healthy enough to return to the field, the team will release the player from the injured list. If the player feels he is still injured, he has the right to file an injury grievance against the team. An independent arbitrator (as spelled out in the CBA) will hear the grievance.Negotiating an injury settlement can be very tricky and can get downright nasty. A player has a right to a second opinion from a doctor of his choice. So a team doctor may say the injury should be completely healed in 6 weeks. A second opinion doctor may say that it could take up to ten weeks for the injury to heal. Therefore, the agent will ask the team for ten or even eleven weeks of salary. The team will propose five or six weeks. The two parties will usually reach an agreement in the middle of the two opinions. In most cases, agents will fight tooth and nail for a time beyond the predicted recovery table to make sure they dont short change their client. Agents will also try to get a settlement equal to at least 3 game checks in order to garner that player a credited season which would lead to certain benefits if the player had at least three credited seasons. As agents, we know that injuries take longer to heal than what is typically projected.Although this is how the system works, it is deeply flawed. For one, the system asks a salary cap manager/or GM and an agent to play doctor and predict when a player will be healthy. Two, it relieves teams of liability when an injury could possibly linger for months and/or years. Three, it takes the player out of a controlled football environment and sends him out on his own to rehab and workout. 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Romfal Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Gillislee is on PS as wellno he isn't. jahwan Edwards is tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBurdz155 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Hopefully we bring in a veteran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 I'm fairly certain we can't re-sign Tone yet even if he his healthy, though I must admit I'm still not 100% with injury settlement rules even after reading the post above. We definitely need to elevate someone from the PS if Teco can't go though. Can't only have Free and Ward on the roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Who said he was going to be out several weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Word is he didn't hurt his ribs, but wanted a ride out to the new hot BBQ joint in Brooklyn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Who said he was going to be out several weeks?jedi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockerfalcon Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Tone isn't a lead back though we need a lead back because Freeman ain't it either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 no he isn't. jahwan Edwards is thoDang when did when did this happen? I've always liked Gillislee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Why do you cart off a rib injury though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dizzle Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Really dude..ya let's bring back a guy who will get 5 touches a game max to replace our lead back..some of Yall I swear have to be trollwas. As far as a legitimate solution to the issue..i agree, a veteran hopfully is the answer or someone from our practice squad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malachore Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Who said he was going to be out several weeks?Jedi huehuehuehuehue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Dang when did when did this happen? I've always liked Gillislee Gillislee never happened in the first place Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 wonder if Antone is even healthy right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Gillislee never happened in the first placeTheMoreYouKnow.img Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 No. Even if we did, Antone is not an every down backThe thought that he was is as much of a myth as the abominable snowman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
me4falcons Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 For get the backfield we could used him on the punt and kickoff team. His presence is definitely missed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Top Flight Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Some might hate this but I don't care. If Teco is out a while I'm giving Ray Rice a ring a ding ding Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Gillislee never happened in the first placeSerious? I swear I read a while back that we grabbed him for ps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4031860-mike-gillislee-to-ps/page-1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Can't see how having Tone would hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JG2008 Posted September 21, 2015 Author Share Posted September 21, 2015 Antone Smith if he's healthy now and if they can bring him back Or?Can't see how having Tone would hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 You're just teasing Aries now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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