UnrealfalcoN Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 .....Lemme tell you where your logic has gone wrongNow you just mentioned great FA signings that TD misses out on. The players you have listed are all HOF talent players. How many of those have we had as FA's available in the market this past few years? Maybe Suh and Peyton? Instead teams PAY their HOF quality player to keep them there. Now we can both agree that Julio is a HOF talent. And TD has paid to keep that homegrown talent home. You're right, we could have drafted a couple dozen other players split amongst other 31 teams. But this team would possibly be in a different circumstance like the Panthers are in. A great defense but no playmakers on offense to step up in big games. Julio shines in the biggest games, he is a huge chunk of a potent offense. I suggest we live in the present. A place where we have potentially a top 5 offense yet again carried by some of TD best picks and trades, and a defense that is full of talented young players and great signings that TD piled up at market price. Players that are now shining bring under a great coach like Quinn. Yea I'll rather live in the present where we have a great young TEAM with a **** of a lot of potential in its future together. And we have a great cap situation going forward too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfalc Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Inherited Weiner, Mud Duck, Dahl, Clabo and Blalock. Replaced them with one of the worst Olines in franchise history. Also inherited Abe, Grady, Babineaux, Chauncey, Brooking, Boley and Demo. Ended up with a sorry as front seven that couldn't stop the run or get after the QB.Weiner was washed up and played 1 year under the Smith/TD regime before retiring. Grady was the same. Chauncey stayed 3 years, but started only 7 games. Brooking was washed up and left after 1 year. Boley played 1 year then left, and Demorrio Williams never played a game for the last regime.The idea that TD inherited a load of top talent and that all of the guys you listed above were significant factors in our success from from 2008-2012 is laughable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ukfalc Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 I have one question. Other than his delusions of grandeur and claims to be the best shadow-GM in the history of Everything, does RamsFanSince2015 have some salient point he's trying to make? Is he trying to say something, but just trips over the stumbling blocks of his abrasiveness, and his vast insecurity masquerading as bravado?Or is it just empty hand-waving and "LOOK LOOK AT ME!!! I'M SMART!!! I REALLY AM SMART!!!" to pump up his failed and miserable existence? I have him on "IGNORE" so unless people quote him, I don't see him. Am I missing anything other than priceless "whacks-self-in-crotch" entertainment?He does have a few salient points. The problem is, that they get totally lost in his bluster, bravado and BS and he is so bitter, twisted and irrational in his hatred of Julio and TD that you cannot have a sensible discussion with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullitt Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Weiner was washed up and played 1 year under the Smith/TD regime before retiring. Grady was the same. Chauncey stayed 3 years, but started only 7 games. Brooking was washed up and left after 1 year. Boley played 1 year then left, and Demorrio Williams never played a game for the last regime.The idea that TD inherited a load of top talent and that all of the guys you listed above were significant factors in our success from from 2008-2012 is laughable.Not taking sides in this debate but Weiner with bad knees was better than any offensive lineman we have acquired since. He was a warrior. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of the Gaucho Posted September 20, 2015 Share Posted September 20, 2015 Not taking sides in this debate but Weiner with bad knees was better than any offensive lineman we have acquired since. He was a warrior.In his prime that is very true. By 2007 he was sliding fast, but still playing well enough to deserve a start. He never played again after 2008. It isn't like we cut a player still playing at such a high level that he went on to success with other teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Inherited Weiner, Mud Duck, Dahl, Clabo and Blalock. Replaced them with one of the worst Olines in franchise history. Also inherited Abe, Grady, Babineaux, Chauncey, Brooking, Boley and Demo. Ended up with a sorry as front seven that couldn't stop the run or get after the QB.Right....and all those "awesome" players did what before the arrival of Matt Ryan?Played ****** defense, didnt protect the passer, didnt run the ball well. Again, your revisionist views of history aren't indicative of the true nature of that history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Man, Murray is looking AMAZING without that all pro OL. He would have just been GREAT here!!!oh yea, purple. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bring It Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 No matter how many games he misses because of injury all we need is ONE superbowl Glad to have himIF Julio can stay healthy there isn't a Record Book THICK enough to compile what this guy will accomplish........with Matt Ryan at the helm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Man, Murray is looking AMAZING without that all pro OL. He would have just been GREAT here!!!oh yea, purple.http://ftw.usatoday.com/2015/09/demarco-murray-stats-worst-rushing-numbers-nfl-history21 Attempts 11 Yards1 TDI feel bad for the guy. He isn't a bad RB. There are two possible reasons this is happening. 1) The system he is in doesn't fit his style of play. 2) He carried the ball 392 times last year. Could be wear and tear. If this can be put in perspective. Randle's Stat line looks like this. 34 Attempts 116 Yards0 TDsThis goes to show that no two teams are built the same way. And that players, no matter how talented, are interchangeable between every system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cooperbh Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Man, Murray is looking AMAZING without that all pro OL. He would have just been GREAT here!!!oh yea, purple.Yep. This is why you don't invest heavily in Shiny Hood Ornaments like Murray and Gurley. The last team to spend a first round draft pick on a RB and then ride that player to a Super Bowl title was the Ravens in 2001. Before that, it was the Cowboys in 1995.All of the Super Bowl MVPs over the past decade have been either QBs or WRs, with the lone exception being a LB in 2014. Hasn't been a RB MVP since the '90s, and he was a 6th rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS91 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 If we had Captain Hindsight and his big board back in 2011 we could have been watching Demarco Murray rush for dozens of yards behind our all world Oline. 'Troffed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1969 Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 If we had Captain Hindsight and his big board back in 2011 we could have been watching Demarco Murray rush for dozens of yards behind our all world Oline. 'Troffed!ROFL @ 'dozens of yards' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted September 21, 2015 Share Posted September 21, 2015 Weiner was washed up and played 1 year under the Smith/TD regime before retiring. Grady was the same. Chauncey stayed 3 years, but started only 7 games. Brooking was washed up and left after 1 year. Boley played 1 year then left, and Demorrio Williams never played a game for the last regime.The idea that TD inherited a load of top talent and that all of the guys you listed above were significant factors in our success from from 2008-2012 is laughable.What makes me laugh is the only thing TD inherited was Mike Vick's cap hits for a further 3 years and was could have added even more talent if the above wasn't there.FFS doesn't realise but with all new regimes player TOer is inevitable as witnessed by this year and the previous regimes players and picks as alot just won't fit the new regimes vision.They'll ID who does fit and draftor replace the holes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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