FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 He's a Gurley-licking fanboi, raving incessantly on and on and on about how drafting Beasley instead of Gurley will cause the NFL to shut down and disenfranchise the Falcons. Hideously obnoxious about it. Won't shut up about it. And I am proud to claim the credit for coining the nickname "RamsFanSince2015".Pull up the posts OhSkool. I was a Demarco Murray, Eddie Lacy, Leveon Bell, Todd Gurley fan. At least one of em would have been a Falcon if I was putting the roster together. Teco, Free and Ward will have their work cut out trying to match em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 No idea where that number came from, but his $47 million guaranteed includes the $10 million he was already guaranteed for this year.And the $20+ million cap hits for "Megatron money" didn't happen like you predicted.$16M guaranteed on his rookie deal. $47M guaranteed on his Dimi deal. $63M guaranteed bro. Plus five picks. Any questions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Hey "intellectually honest", did you know that with Julio, we got to within ten yards of the SB?What happened the next two years? Do tell. I'd like to know what you think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Dimi took Akeem The Dream that year bro. In three years Martez Wilson doubled his stats with ONE start. Dream had twenty starts. Criminal.You're right. He should have taken Murray instead of Dent. Would have been awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PK Manley Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) $16M guaranteed on his rookie deal. $47M guaranteed on his Dimi deal. $63M guaranteed bro. Plus five picks. Any questions?Okay, I get where you got the number from, but that was guaranteed at three different points in time, so that's a weird way of putting it. It's also locking him up for a decade. Edited September 19, 2015 by PK Manley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 I've been through this with post diggin clowns like you before. Those are mocks son. That aint my big board. That is based on how things might play out. Drafts never play out like mocks when the clock starts. Go dig that post up again and you will quickly see I coveted Justin Houston and Demarco Murray more than anybody in that draft. Both were available. Both would have been falcons if I were running the show. Now go dig up the 2012 draft threads and you will quickly see I had 13 of the 19 players I mentioned on my big board just like I said. We would have been a better team.You're as full of **** as a Guinness Book of World Records record-breaking ****-filled sausage casing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 $16M guaranteed on his rookie deal. $47M guaranteed on his Dimi deal. $63M guaranteed bro. Plus five picks. Any questions?You're right, Dimi shouldnt have given him $16m guaranteed on his rookie deal. I wonder why he did that. Muppet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 uh huh...on those grounds alone I want dude gone even more...no socio-political in my football...thank you.? What grounds? G-Dawg making unsubstantiated macho bigoted statements?Dude wore a jacket g-dawg didnt like and g-dawg responded by implying A) that TD is "sweet" B ) that he is in a relationship with another male FO member and C) that being gay is somehow worthy of criticism. All because he wore a ******* plaid jacket? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Mo Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 What happened the next two years? Do tell. I'd like to know what you think.Defense and O-line collapsed.No fault of the Julio trade the attempts we made to fix afterward them failed.It really doesn't matter in the context of my post.We go further with Julio than we ever would have with those five picks based on TD's drafting history. Got anything to refute that festus, or are you just gonna cry some more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Well I would have leaped on Houston sittin there in the first. Murray would've been next. Both would have been Falcons. I would have taken either in the first and kept the four additional picks. Both have beasted since then. You said you would have taken Murray, then a couple years later got caught by Swifty saying Murray was injury prone and you wouldn't have taken him. He's played in more games and has more yards and TDs than Julio, who cost four more picks and $63M guaranteed. LMAO.No you wouldnt have. Your "final mock" was long on Derrek Sharrod, Martez Wilson and Edmund Gates (whoever the **** that is). Combined starts: 2. Awesome. See, thats the funny thing about actually having to make choices....when you actually have to make choices, you don't have the option of lying out of your *** about what you "would" have done in the face of all the evidence contrary Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 And let's not forget this particular piece of revisionist history:FalconFanSince1970AFMB Hall of Fame Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:29 PMWell let me start by saying welcome to the A. I don't follow NCAA ball so I didn't know very much about you. Since the trade I have done some research and I likes what I sees. Big body, plenty speed, playmaker, can block, excellent attitude, good background. I'm glad your people only need to travel across one state line to see you play. I can see some good years ahead.Many here know I'm not a fan of the five for one trade but I fully understand why management made the deal. This could be a now pick, but if it's not, it's a #1 WR replacement pick down the line.You are coming onto the third winningest team in the NFL over the last three years. Winningest team in the NFC over that period. Not really a lottery team. We got weapons bro. Trust me.Most of the fans and media will be on you all year (if we ever start playing ball), also next year and for the rest of your career. Trust me. You got the five for one bulls eye on your back. My advice would be to tune them out (me included, cause I will definitely be watching) and listen to the coaches and team mates. No media. No fans. Good or bad. Coaches/team mates.Work on your weaknesses and improve your strengths. Stay close to Ryan, Roddy and Robiskie. The three Rs. Write that down in your notebook. And don't go to any of the Vick parties Roddy goes to cause Goody will be watching. Trust me.Check the stats of the Top 10 WR draft picks over the last decade and you'll see most are in the 30-50 rec, 300-700 yards, 3-5 range. You can do that. Easily. Don't stress. Relax and learn. Mostly relax though. One thing I learned in my lifetime was no matter what you're doing, if you're good, you will shine if you are relaxed and confident. Trust me on that one bro.Good luck my brother. Sorry for so many Trust Me's.FFS1970 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 So basically, shut the **** up from now on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted September 19, 2015 Author Share Posted September 19, 2015 FFS70 seems very concerned about the amount of money we paid to resign Julio.Well, if FFS70 was GM and kept those 5 picks, all 5 would have been All Pros coming up on contract years all at the same time, it would have destroyed our cap.70'ed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allknowing Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 No idea where that number came from, but his $47 million guaranteed includes the $10 million he was already guaranteed for this year.And the $20+ million cap hits for "Megatron money" didn't happen like you predicted.plus any top 3 receiver is going to get that kind of money when they're off their rookie deal so using guaranteed money against him makes no sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 So basically, shut the **** up from now on. Bwahahahahaha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Defense and O-line collapsed.No fault of the Julio trade the attempts we made to fix afterward them failed.It really doesn't matter in the context of my post.We go further with Julio than we ever would have with those five picks based on TD's drafting history. Got anything to refute that festus, or are you just gonna cry some more?Whose watch did the Defense and Oline collapse on?Buddy inherited a decent Oline and front seven. Both went steadily downhill until Blank finally stripped him of his roster building authority. Should have fired that mofo in 2013. Dimi's pre Julio record is better than his post Julio record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 No you wouldnt have. Your "final mock" was long on Derrek Sharrod, Martez Wilson and Edmund Gates (whoever the **** that is). Combined starts: 2. Awesome. See, thats the funny thing about actually having to make choices....when you actually have to make choices, you don't have the option of lying out of your *** about what you "would" have done in the face of all the evidence contraryOf course a clown like you wouldn't know the difference between a mock and a big board if it bit you in the as. A mock is a pre draft selection of players based on scenarios that might play out on draft day. I heard Dimi once say they run hundreds of mocks every year. I ran seven. When the clock starts on draft day players rise, players fall and trades start happening. The draft never plays out like a mock.A big board is a list of players you would select if they are available. It is well chronicled that Justin Houston and Demarco Murray were tops on my big board. Both would have been Falcons if I were runnin the draft. If you think I would have taken Sherrod with Houston and Murray still on the board, you're more clueless than I originally thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 (edited) Hindsight my as. There are sixteen TATers on this board that would have drafted better bro. Buddy got his draft privileges stripped. What part of that don't yall understand? Our sht schemes got us 56-24, two divisions, five back to backs, two byes, four playoff seasons, second best record in the league and an NFCCG appearance. Quinn will have to coach his as off or turn Dimi's roster at a rapid pace to match that.You know I keep hearing about this mythical big board you had where you would have drafted Houston and Murray, yet I have never seen it. All I see in your history is a bunch of mock drafts where you pick guys that are far from starting material or past where they would have been drafted. Our $hit schemes never got us any Superbowls, One playoff win, and a bunch of one and dones. Which is what all of us here want,including you. We could go 7-9 into the playoffs then win out in the playoffs and people would be totally fine with it. Regular season is a way to get into the post season, post season is where the true contenders rise to the top. The Falcons benefited the most from the Julio trade. We have a top 5 WR that can stretch defenses and allow us to be more balanced because of it. In the end Julio > Draft Picks. Edited September 19, 2015 by Sidecar Falcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 plus any top 3 receiver is going to get that kind of money when they're off their rookie deal so using guaranteed money against him makes no senseMy guess is only one WR in the history of the league cost a team $63M+ and five draft picks. Julio Jones. We are 34-31 since we drafted him. The #1 WR on the last three championship teams was Julian Edelman, Golden Tate and Anquan Boldin. Jeez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!MAN! I'm mad I missed this thread going in real time. FFS70 was getting his arse handed to him! It's hilarious how he and G-Dawg can't accept they aren't better than TD. They just can't. Can't even admit they use hindsight HEAVILY in their analysis. It's so easy to look back and talk about imaginary big boards and say you would have picked all Pro Bowlers and All Pros, yet, when your actual immediate post draft predictions based on how the draft actually went still includes a shitton of busts, you should just shut up. It's like yall want to be good at predicting the past or something... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Oh and ask any of the QBs that have won the last three SBs if they'd love to have Julio on their team. This is like complaining about "teams don't win SBs with expensive TEs", yet nobody was sad when we went after Tony, Brady ain't mad he has Gronk and the Seahawks just went and got Graham. You need playmakers to win games. Period. Quit bltching. We have arguably the best WR in the game. I guess the Cowboys are doomed now that they paid Dez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 Oh and ask any of the QBs that have won the last three SBs if they'd love to have Julio on their team. This is like complaining about "teams don't win SBs with expensive TEs", yet nobody was sad when we went after Tony, Brady ain't mad he has Gronk and the Seahawks just went and got Graham. You need playmakers to win games. Period. Quit bltching. We have arguably the best WR in the game. I guess the Cowboys are doomed now that they paid Dez. Exactly, every team needs that one guy that strikes fear into the hearts of the opposing team. Julio is our guy in that department, you always have to game plan around him. It's funny how you mention TEs. I was having a discussion with my friend the other day about how I believe that TEs are going to become the "next big thing" in terms of skill positions. I believe we are going to see a lot more two and three TE sets in the league with a more hybrid type of player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 So much chatter about the past. Julio is a valuable player and we are fortunate to have him. Tommy made a move for him and it cost the team quite a few picks. Was it worth it? IT DOES NOT MATTER. We are here now and we only need to worry about moving forward. We have an energetic coaching staff that is clear about their focus and the kind of players that they want. There is no talk of clandestine hybrid or amoeba defense. We know exactly what kind of blockers the offense needs. Now, Tommy has a clear picture of what he needs to add to the staff. At the very least, we should give props to a GM that was not afraid to stick to his convictions. It took a lot of guts to make the Julio trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vel Posted September 19, 2015 Share Posted September 19, 2015 What was even more crazy was KOG calling us forgetting about Carimi in 2-3 years. "Still don't care much for Carimi except his height. We'll forget all about him in 2-3 yrs." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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