uup115 Posted September 6, 2015 Share Posted September 6, 2015 Antone Smith was a great threat to have-no doubt - but we have replaced him with Coleman who is also a homerun hitter, we need 1 more solid O-line pick up to add besides Levitre and possibly a substantially better bruiser RB to compliment Freeman and Coleman instead of Terron Ward No worries Lamar Holmes will return after the PUP list expires. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyin' In DC Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 I like Antone Smith but he CANNOT stay healthy. I guess Biermann will be a ST player(hopefully exclusively) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThePiszOuttaTheBall Posted September 7, 2015 Author Share Posted September 7, 2015 When is it possible for another team to pick up Tone? I know he is injured, which means teams will wait till he's healthy. But based on the rules, could someone pick him up now if they wanted to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 He's gone. Time to let it goNo it ain't. Let's see if we've adequately replaced him.Gunner God. Most explosive player on offense. Yeah even more than Julio. Five TDs on only 36 touches. No TD less than 38 yards. Explosive.Even if his hammy is ripped, we should have found a way to keep him around. At least for another year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 What did people say?We can't win without Mass? He's been cut again!We need a young TE like Coffman. Cut again.All the armchair GMs need to move on and let the pros do their jobs. Give Smith a bigger role? We win 10 games. A 30 year old RB with aa broken leg and ruined hammy? Keep him indeed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Show me anything that says Reed has been a good player after his injury. He wasn't here last year to be a starter for us, he hasn't played a single snap this season, he doesn't know the scheme, why is he here???the scheme is simple. C'mon man lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No it ain't. Let's see if we've adequately replaced him.Gunner God. Most explosive player on offense. Yeah even more than Julio. Five TDs on only 36 touches. No TD less than 38 yards. Explosive.Even if his hammy is ripped, we should have found a way to keep him around. At least for another year.thought you said Gurley would be ready to go by week 1? What happened Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No it ain't. Let's see if we've adequately replaced him.Gunner God. Most explosive player on offense. Yeah even more than Julio. Five TDs on only 36 touches. No TD less than 38 yards. Explosive.Even if his hammy is ripped, we should have found a way to keep him around. At least for another year.He'll be available later, trust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2887 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 This isn't directed at the op, but I don't get why fans get so tore up about marginal players being kept, released, etc. Kroy over Maponga and Antone released isn't really a big deal.Tone was solid and did more then Freeman did behind the same Line.... hey kept a eh, RB over a proven Electric runner and solid S/T ace. I like Quinn but Freeman should have went before Tone. Tone made a better case to stay with the team then Freeman hands down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sun Tzu 7 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 No it ain't. Let's see if we've adequately replaced him.Gunner God. Most explosive player on offense. Yeah even more than Julio. Five TDs on only 36 touches. No TD less than 38 yards. Explosive.Even if his hammy is ripped, we should have found a way to keep him around. At least for another year.Yeah I'd hate for Sean Payton to pick him up later in the season and turn him into the next Darren Sproles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2887 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 When is it possible for another team to pick up Tone? I know he is injured, which means teams will wait till he's healthy. But based on the rules, could someone pick him up now if they wanted to?Not til he passes NFL proticol.... Most don't resign til after there injurey is close to healed.http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/what-is-an-injury-settlement/Injury settlements are agreements between players and teams spelling out compensation and other terms in which the two parties will immediately part ways. For example, if a player suffered a preseason injury such as a knee MCL partial tear, it usually takes about six weeks to heal and for the player to get back to full strength. If the player sustained the injury in the final week of the preseason (7 days prior to the 53 cut down date) and all parties agreed it would take six weeks for a full recovery, the parties may agree on a five week regular game settlement. A five-week settlement is appropriate because the first week of the six weeks is still during the preseason. Thus, the player would have most likely missed five weeks of the regular season on the inactive or the injured reserved list. Therefore, the team will pay the player for those five weeks in trade for a full release of liability. So the player will be paid 5/17th of his salary (there are 17 weeks in the season.)Here are some typical terms and/or components of an injury settlement:-Player and his representatives release team, doctor, trainers and team’s agents from all liability associated with the injury.-Team will be responsible for the costs of all second medical opinions, rehabilitation, medical and related expenses. A player may choose to rehab his injury at a place of his own choice.– Player acknowledges that he has hereby been given notice that he may have rights under the applicable Workers’ Compensation laws of the state in which the team resides.-Offset language preventing a player from double dipping. It usually goes like this:The parties further agree if Player signs a new contract with another NFL Team during the first five weeks (using our MCL example) of the 2014 NFL Regular Season, Club’s obligation shall be reduced by the amount of any contractual compensation (including, without limitation, salary, signing, reporting, option and/or incentive bonuses) received or earned by Player from such other NFL Team and Player shall reimburse Club for any such amounts previously paid by Club.Injury settlements are used in lieu of placing a player on the Injured Reserve (IR) until he is healthy enough to be released. If an injury is deemed to take longer than 17 weeks to recover the player will be placed on IR for the season and receive his full salary (unless he has a split contract). Injury settlements are also used to lighten the load of the training room. If a team has six players who have injuries that require rehabilitation it will tie up the time and resources of the training room. Teams want to move on from players they think wouldn’t have made their team, are expendable talents and/or are easily replaceable.Injury settlements can also give a team a chance at getting a player back during that same season. There is a rule in place that the team (agreeing to a settlement) can’t resign that player until a minimum of six weeks passes following the amount of weeks of the initial settlement. So for our MCL example, the team cannot resign that player for the first eleven weeks. For a player who did a three week/3 game settlement, his team can’t sign him back until after week nine. However, the player is free to sign with another team.If a player, usually upon the advice of his agent, doesn’t want to do an injury settlement, it’s the team’s obligation to rehab and give him medical treatment. Once the team and the team’s physician deem the player healthy enough to return to the field, the team will release the player from the injured list. If the player feels he is still injured, he has the right to file an injury grievance against the team. An independent arbitrator (as spelled out in the CBA) will hear the grievance.Negotiating an injury settlement can be very tricky and can get downright nasty. A player has a right to a second opinion from a doctor of his choice. So a team doctor may say the injury should be completely healed in 6 weeks. A second opinion doctor may say that it could take up to ten weeks for the injury to heal. Therefore, the agent will ask the team for ten or even eleven weeks of salary. The team will propose five or six weeks. The two parties will usually reach an agreement in the middle of the two opinions. In most cases, agents will fight tooth and nail for a time beyond the predicted recovery table to make sure they don’t short change their client. Agents will also try to get a settlement equal to at least 3 game checks in order to garner that player a credited season which would lead to certain benefits if the player had at least three credited seasons. As agents, we know that injuries take longer to heal than what is typically projected.Although this is how the system works, it is deeply flawed. For one, the system asks a salary cap manager/or GM and an agent to play doctor and predict when a player will be healthy. Two, it relieves teams of liability when an injury could possibly linger for months and/or years. Three, it takes the player out of a controlled football environment and sends him out on his own to rehab and workout.*Tone won't be available for us to resign him til week 9 tops with his injury sadly T_T As far as the question you stated. Tone Is Better then Kroy and Ward. Tone could easly provide more upside then these two combined.... As far as Williams. He's good and solid from what we all seen. He has yet to show what Tone has already show. SO. Yes Tone over two easily and Wiliams can be argued but not proven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2887 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Yeah I'd hate for Sean Payton to pick him up later in the season and turn him into the next Darren Sproles.Can see it happen... my 1st guess would be the Panther tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 thought you said Gurley would be ready to go by week 1? What happenedDon't remember predicting that. Maybe referenced a media report. Let's see you step up and tell us what kind of NFL career you think Gurley will have.the scheme is simple. C'mon man lolOn both sides of the ball. One cut and go in the Shanny offense. On the defense, mindless reads with quick physicality and toughness. Should win at least 13 games. Can't wait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2887 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 There could be a chance that Tone was cut with that injury settlement to give us an extra roster spot and to take another look at Ward til he's available after his settlement. This does allow him to talk to other teams... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2887 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Don't remember predicting that. Maybe referenced a media report. Let's see you step up and tell us what kind of NFL career you think Gurley will have.On both sides of the ball. One cut and go in the Shanny offense. On the defense, mindless reads with quick physicality and toughness. Should win at least 13 games. Can't wait.Gurley's career will be just has bad as Trents. Gurley had a Great Oline in college. Don't think he'll do much imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Gurley's career will be just has bad as Trents. Gurley had a Great Oline in college. Don't think he'll do much imo.OK. Got it.YoungBlood? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2887 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 OK. Got it.YoungBlood?LOL, sorry I replied to it lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Gurley sitting on the bench week 1. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtybird2k5 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Gurley sitting on the bench week 1.Gurlie to the benchie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hingle McCringleberry Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) thought you said Gurley would be ready to go by week 1? What happenedWhy bring up gurley on a thread about antone smith? He is not on the team. Is it just cause you wanted to try and show up FFS1970? For that matter, why even talk about antone smith, he isn't on the team either? Edited September 7, 2015 by Asault86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aries2887 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Why bring up gurley on a thread about antone smith? He is not on the team. Is it just cause you wanted to try and show up FFS1970? For that matter, why even talk about antone smith, he isn't on the team either?Because Tone was the Best back we had and was on the team... so the thread was made... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Because Tone was the Best back we had and was on the team... so the thread was made... No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hingle McCringleberry Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 (edited) Because Tone was the Best back we had and WAS on the team... so the thread was made... Wrong, a one dimensional RB can not possibly be the best back we have. Plus, I'll take someone that spends day and night evaluating players judgement over all of you. Keyword is in all caps in the quote. Edited September 7, 2015 by Asault86 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JOEinPHX Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 Our last two years have been scrapped due to injury problems I'm glad the Front office is purging our roster of these players. I don;t want another year of 10+ guys on IR.Nice to see an acknowledgment that injuries are what sank the ship in 2013 and 2014, but don't be misled into thinking the FO is behind this purge. They make the announcement but they don't make the call.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.U.N.n.G.U.N.2 Posted September 7, 2015 Share Posted September 7, 2015 A little off topic here guys...in my fantasy, should I pick James Jones or Moncrief Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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