EightyEight Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 First drive:First play, Tevin Coleman rush for -2 yards. This one was Person and Stone, they got pushed back significantly. And as we go further, you'll hear their names a good bit, unfortunately.Second play, Matt Ryan sacked for loss, Stone got manhandled. Matt Ryan tried to step into the pocket to make his throw, and Stone got tossed aside like a ragdoll. If Stone holds on for one more second it's a completed, or at least attempted pass.Third play, I'm pretty sure this was supposed to be a screen, it just took too long to develop (Partially because the D-line is extremely quick in addition to being strong) and due to the pressure being a little too close, Matt just missed the throw. Second drive:First Play: Line gets pushed back pretty severely, but Matt has enough time to get the pass off.Second play:Basically the same as the last play. Schraeder nearly gave up a sack but executed a low block that bought Ryan enough time to get the ball off, Matthews and Stone did okay on this play, Person looked like a highschool freshman. Third play: Mike Person might be a child, because he got demolished again.. Matthews and Chester seem to be our best lineman. Schraeder looked a bit lost on this play. Mike Person was literally already pushed back a yard by the time Matt handed the ball to Coleman. Good blocking by Matthews, below average blocking by Stone but the tackle was actually made by a free linebacker, it's possible that Stone could have had this guy but frankly they blitzed and we didn't have enough people blocking, HOWEVER, in a short yardage situation, we got the first down. Let's not ignore the significance of that. Fourth Play: This play was a very quick developing play so the line didn't have to hold up at all, looked like a poor throw by Ryan or miscommunication between him and the receiver. Fifth Play: Stone gets manhandled and pushed into Ward, it looked like if Stone hadn't gotten in the way, Ward could have gotten a couple yards or at least gotten back to the line. Worth noting that Miami blitzed, again.Sixth Play: (3rd and 17, clear pass play, no blitz) Person holds his man for once, pocket is kept relatively clean but Schraeder nearly gets beat by a spin move. Ryan misses the throw but it's doubtful the play would have gotten the yardage needed anyway. It's possible if Roddy or Julio were playing they would have been open and targeted. Third Drive:First play, maybe it wasn't his responsibility but Chester completely missed a guy that came in and hit Coleman, Schraeder performed below average. They were the main lineman involved in this play, the others didn't get blown up enough that it affected the play so good for them. Coleman made a pretty great play recovering.Second play:Entire right side got blown up, tackle by two defenders behind the line. Schraeder let a guy go right past him, second defender was Brent Grimes on a blitz, didn't get picked up. Miami blitzed here again, just for the record. Looked like miscomunicationThird play:Miami blitzes yet again. Stone gets absolutely demolished, Schraeder gets beat, Matt Ryan steps up into what was once known as the pocket but meets Matthews' blocker. However, had he rolled to the right it's possible Matt could have gotten a throw off. Instead he tried to sidestep him and got sacked. Matthews also got beat, but it could have been due to the way the pocket collapsed because of Stone. Terron Ward did a decent job with his initial block but lost his man soon after. Schraeder got beat like a drum, Chester was below average but wasn't the worst on this play. I'll update as I continue. Thus far, Matthews and Chester are okay starters, especially considering they're going against one of the best D-lines in the NFL. Stone and Person need to go, they're backups. Schraeder has looked subpar but looks like we could survive with him at RT, but he's far from ideal. Miscommunication was also a huge factor in this one. Basically, don't freak out just yet. I think ideally though we're going to want the starting O-line to be Matthews-Asomoah-Hawley-Chester-Schraeder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Sounds like Schraeder did a lot worse than I thought. Was trying to rotate attention between linemen and every play I watched he seemed to be holding his own...not hearing his name called certainly helped with that. Vernon isn't a slouch but with all our other OL woes that adds a decent amount of concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I believe our main starting Oline will be okay enough for our offense, but I'm scared for our depth. One injury and we could be screwed. Matt needs more than 2 seconds... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I believe our main starting Oline will be okay enough for our offense, but I'm scared for our depth. One injury and we could be screwed. Matt needs more than 2 seconds...This was supposed to be the "dress rehersal" game - "the offensive line were who we thought they were". Granted the Dolphins D-Line is very good, but average offensive lines hold up better than that beotch.Did Asamoah play tonite? How did he do? I had my 80lb lap dog (Doberman) sitting with me and I could not focus as much as I wanted on the O-Line other than seeing us getting dominated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keys Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This was supposed to be the "dress rehersal" game - "the offensive line were who we thought they were". Granted the Dolphins D-Line is very good, but average offensive lines hold up better than that beotch.Did Asamoah play tonite? How did he do? I had my 80lb lap dog (Doberman) sitting with me and I could not focus as much as I wanted on the O-Line other than seeing us getting dominated.I don't believe so... They had stone out at guard in the first quarter if I'm not mistaken. I don't recall seeing Asamoah but I could be wrong. Could have been a test Oline to see how it worked. Quinn is a new Hc, I could see him not following the "dress rehearsal" tradition for preseason and taking time to figure out his new team more through different combinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth B Told (TRU) Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 This was supposed to be the "dress rehersal" game - "the offensive line were who we thought they were". Granted the Dolphins D-Line is very good, but average offensive lines hold up better than that beotch.Did Asamoah play tonite? How did he do? I had my 80lb lap dog (Doberman) sitting with me and I could not focus as much as I wanted on the O-Line other than seeing us getting dominated.He played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 He playedAnd? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truth B Told (TRU) Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 And? ...My bad. From what I seen he held up against their 2nd-3rd stringers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Are there any FA left that would be an upgrade to our Oline? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfalconsp Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media-lounge/videos/Quinn-We-Will-be-a-Finishing-Team/6f7a8dd3-ecca-4987-abba-b4515797f715Surprised he said he wasn't concerned about the run game and o-line yet, hard to believe lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Are there any FA left that would be an upgrade to our Oline?We could have gotten Mathis, but TD is too..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We could have gotten Mathis, but TD is too.....Jake Long still a FA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Jake Long still a FA?Believe so. But TD won't sign him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RS91 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Jake Long still a FA?Yeah, but he has the knees of a 70 year old and hasn't exactly been good anytime recently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Yeah, but he has the knees of a 70 year old and hasn't exactly been good anytime recently.I guys have good knees and they suckkkkkkk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Yeah, but he has the knees of a 70 year old and hasn't exactly been good anytime recently.So really there isn't a starting caliber Olineman left in FA then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 http://www.atlantafalcons.com/media-lounge/videos/Quinn-We-Will-be-a-Finishing-Team/6f7a8dd3-ecca-4987-abba-b4515797f715Surprised he said he wasn't concerned about the run game and o-line yet, hard to believe lol.He said sure, then said "concern" isn't the word he would use. And he said pass protection and the run game were the biggest issues. Seemed like those are definitely obvious issues to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quotemokc Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 We could have gotten Mathis, but TD is too.....Lots of teams could of gotten Mathis, we might of tried and he said no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I saw this posted on the falcoholic... tweets...As much as I respect Vaughn McClure, I strongly disagree with two things he has said about our offensive linemen this year. Lamar Holmes was NOT "demoted". And Asamoah is not a mismatch for our scheme.Holmes was simply filling in on the first unit until Jake could practice, then he returned to his regular spot on the second unit. That’s not a demotion. McClure had made it sound like Holmes was doing poorly when he wasn’t. And Asamoah had worked mostly with Polumbus before he got banged up. So when he returned and was still working his way up to speed, it was a pretty simple move for the coaching staff to keep working him with Polumbus.But tonight had a really strong hint that Asamoah is still in the mix for the starting job. Specifically, the team had Hawley wait to come in until Asamaoah was out there. They had Hawley, Asamoah and Schraeder working together. That is likely your starting line, with Matthews and Chester on the left side. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 At this point, it seems crazy to me to think Asamoah would not be one of the "best 5" offensive linemen. Even if Asamoah is better in MBS than ZBS, we need strong players on interior to protect the franchise.Start Asamoah!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 At this point, it seems crazy to me to think Asamoah would not be one of the "best 5" offensive linemen. Even if Asamoah is better in MBS than ZBS, we need strong players on interior to protect the franchise.Start Asamoah!!!Think it could still happen week one. We obviously aren't starting Person over Hawley and Stone. But we actually got to see Hawley working with Asamoah and Schraeder for the first time this week (later in the game) and they looked pretty good. The chemistry was there. Still testing line combinations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Think it could still happen week one. We obviously aren't starting Person over Hawley and Stone. But we actually got to see Hawley working with Asamoah and Schraeder for the first time this week (later in the game) and they looked pretty good. The chemistry was there. Still testing line combinations.Hopefully Asamoah has gotten whatever message the Falcons O-Line coach and Shannhan was trying to send.This Falcons team needs Jon Asamoah to be a starter - no doubt! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoriabird Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Why are we still screwing around with the o-line? Why don't we just put the best starting 5 out there especially when Matt Ryan is on the field and stop putting guys like Person, stone and Polumbus in the game when it is obvious that they aren't going to b starters??? This is annoying! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 A lot is being made of Stone and Person but Schraeder played just as bad as those two. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sui_Generis Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) As bad as they looked I am not overly concerned yet for two reasons. 1. They are running a new scheme and it will take a few live games for them to actually gel. 2. The Dolphin d line is loaded with great talent. Plus the key cog in that line is one of the most dominant d line players this league has seen in a while. I will reserve my major judgement until around week four or five. Edited August 30, 2015 by Sui_Generis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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