Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Randy Gregory now has a sack in every preseason game hes played in.5 tackles, 3 tackles for loss, 3 sacks, 5 QB hits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Did he beat his man this time? Where's the video of it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Both he and Lawrence beat their guys they met at the qb but randy got there first.That pair is going to be our book ends for a VERY long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/2015082952/2015/PRE3/vikings@cowboys#menu=gameinfo|contentId%3A0ap3000000517834&tab=recap1:45 mark is Gregory's sack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Who is Jalen Collins? I got a bad feeling about this. Hopefully, I'm wong.You do realize that Collins better be good or you will regret it for the rest of Gregory's career. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Two things wrong with your statement, I did not draft Collins, nor do we know how Gregory's career will turn out. They could both be busts, journeymen, or good/great. I;n not going to regret something I have no control over Rave, capisce? Nah, youll just downplay it, just like how you downplay that the Julio trade is why Atlanta's defense has suffered all these years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 That may have played a part, in having more bodies in camp, but who knows what would have happen with players that were drafted? Did Cleveland do anything with the extra players we allowed them to draft? No, they didn't, the draft is not an exact science and it never will be.Did you just say Atlanta's front office isn't any better than Cleveland's? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des-pool Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Out of all the things to regret over the last few years, Julio is most assuredly not one of them. We heard from Dimitroff who we would have chosen and they would have not had near the impact Julio has had. What I don't understand is why you feel the need to attack us over the Julio trade. Feeling insecure? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LightsCameronAction Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 (edited) What I don't understand is why you feel the need to attack us over the Julio trade. Feeling insecure?Why would Cowboys fans feel insecure about the Julio trade? They swapped a third for a fourth and got a better receiver just a year earlier with the 24th pick overall. Edited August 30, 2015 by LightsCameronAction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 That's always been their argumentI know, but he doesnt seem to understand, saying "Cleveland didnt do anything with the picks" is the same as saying that Atlanta's front office wouldnt have been able to any better with those picks. Cleveland has one of the worst front offices in the league. To use that as their excuse is to say that Atlanta's front office is no better than Cleveland's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Out of all the things to regret over the last few years, Julio is most assuredly not one of them. We heard from Dimitroff who we would have chosen and they would have not had near the impact Julio has had.What I don't understand is why you feel the need to attack us over the Julio trade. Feeling insecure?Not at all, go back since Ive been here, Ive said the same things over and over. Julio did the Falcons offense a great service, all the while setting Atlanta's defense back years.Think about the defensive help Atlanta could have had, had that trade not been made.Is one stud WR worth not having a defense good enough to get to a Super Bowl? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Why would Cowboys fans feel insecure about the Julio trade? They swapped a third for a fourth and got a better receiver just a year earlier with the 24th pick overall.Exactly, Dallas gave up less and got more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Both he and Lawrence beat their guys they met at the qb but randy got there first.Gregory didn't beat his man. He was blocked until Bridgewater ran up in the pocket then Gregroy gave ground to make the tackle once Bridgewater moved pass him. He did get a solid bull rush though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Gregory didn't beat his man. He was blocked until Bridgewater ran up in the pocket then Gregroy gave ground to make the tackle once Bridgewater moved pass him. He did get a solid bull rush though.I wouldnt say that 3 sacks in 3 games, along with 5 QB hits total, means everything, but it doesnt mean nothing either.Thats a lot of "right place, right time" to not be a playmaker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 I wouldnt say that 3 sacks in 3 games, along with 5 QB hits total, means everything, but it doesnt mean nothing either.Thats a lot of "right place, right time" to not be a playmaker.Just calling it as I see it. That was a pretty good bull rush but his blocker held up. It was the other end that caused Bridgewater to step up. If he didn't have to leave the pocket Gregory's blocker would have maintained his block. On a pass play an o-lineman is concerned about pass blocking the defender. Not keeping up with where the QB is. Gregory disengaged with the blocker once Bridgewater started breaking the pocket. Happens often. I said he got a good bull rush and he made the tackle. But he didn't beat his man. Again, just calling it as I see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des-pool Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Look, dumba$$es, I'll spell it out for you guys once: we were taking Gabe Carini(sp?) with our first pick if we stayed put. You know, the guy we picked up several years later and then cut because he sucks. TD has been the best GM we have ever had, but his line picks were not good. Pioli's speciality is lines while TD's is skill positions. Talk sh1t all you want, most Falcon fans don't regret the trade at all. It doesn't matter how many good defensive players we picked up if the coaching staff can't develop the talent. The new coaching staff is getting a lot more out of current roster guys that the old staff was labeling busts. We didn't have the system in place to actually teach these guys. This has become clearly evident when we see the amount of actual football teaching going on at the branch these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des-pool Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Just calling it as I see it. That was a pretty good bull rush but his blocker held up. It was the other end that caused Bridgewater to step up. If he didn't have to leave the pocket Gregory's blocker would have maintained his block. On a pass play an o-lineman is concerned about pass blocking the defender. Not keeping up with where the QB is. Gregory disengaged with the blocker once Bridgewater started breaking the pocket. Happens often. I said he got a good bull rush and he made the tackle. But he didn't beat his man. Again, just calling it as I see it.Again, this is a saints fan and not a Falcons fan saying this. He has no dog in the fight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Look, dumba$$es, I'll spell it out for you guys once: we were taking Gabe Carini(sp?) with our first pick if we stayed put. You know, the guy we picked up several years later and then cut because he sucks. TD has been the best GM we have ever had, but his line picks were not good. Pioli's speciality is lines while TD's is skill positions. Talk sh1t all you want, most Falcon fans don't regret the trade at all. It doesn't matter how many good defensive players we picked up if the coaching staff can't develop the talent. The new coaching staff is getting a lot more out of current roster guys that the old staff was labeling busts. We didn't have the system in place to actually teach these guys. This has become clearly evident when we see the amount of actual football teaching going on at the branch these days.I find it quite entertaining how mad people get about a trade that no one regrets.5 picks for one player is steep. Justify it however you want. The move was made to bring in the "missing piece". It didn't work. Period. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des-pool Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 It's a dumb argument that sh1theads like you like to bring up to dog falcon fans. It's tiring to hear. There are so many legitimate things to nail the falcons on but the julio trade is not one of them. He's a superstar player without the diva superstar attitude, and has been gold for us.I guess I need to start posting Dez off the field issues and links again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Des-pool Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 It almost did. A better coaching staff and it would of...julio killed San fran in the NFC championship game, 189 yards and 2 Tds. The window was just smaller than everyone thought, our lines were a house of cards ready to falter. Romo and dez have never had a playoff game like Matt and Julio did. Unfortunately, when you don't have a pass rush because your best pass rusher is hurt when your dumba$$ coach plays him in a meaningless game, and even then you are up by 17 when your coach goes conservative and let the other team into back into, yeah, you are probably going to lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 It's a dumb argument that sh1theads like you like to bring up to dog falcon fans. It's tiring to hear. There are so many legitimate things to nail the falcons on but the julio trade is not one of them. He's a superstar player without the diva superstar attitude, and has been gold for us.I guess I need to start posting Dez off the field issues and links again...Julio was supposed to be the missing piece to get the Falcons over the hump and win a championship.They gave up too much to get him and he did not deliver them to the Super Bowl.Therefore, its a failure. There is nothing you can say to change that.Regardless of how good Julio is, the move is a failure as it did not achieve the goal it was made for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 It almost did. A better coaching staff and it would of...julio killed San fran in the NFC championship game, 189 yards and 2 Tds. The window was just smaller than everyone thought, our lines were a house of cards ready to falter.Romo and dez have never had a playoff game like Matt and Julio did. Unfortunately, when you don't have a pass rush because your best pass rusher is hurt when your dumba$$ coach plays him in a meaningless game, and even then you are up by 17 when your coach goes conservative and let the other team into back into, yeah, you are probably going to lose.Could have, should have, DIDNT!!!Failed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joremarid Posted August 30, 2015 Share Posted August 30, 2015 Didn't know Julio retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 Didn't know Julio retiredThis proves you dont get the point.The Julio trade became a failure in 2012.Julio himself is a great player, but what the team did to acquire him was based on winning a Super Bowl ring immediately.That did not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rave Posted August 30, 2015 Author Share Posted August 30, 2015 I guess the question you have to ask yourself is, whether or not getting Julio was worth missing out on Justin Houston. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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