k-train Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Willy Mo is once again spending time with the trainers rather than being on the field. While I fully understand that it's preseason (& therefore it's better to take extra precautions & hold guys out, especially aging vets w/ a history of injuries issues), if Moore can't play in at least 13 of 16 regular season games this year, it is time to move on?The remainder of his contract looks like this:2015 - age: 30 | $3.5M base | $1.65M bonus | $5.36M cap hit | $4.95 dead cap2016 - age: 31 | $4.5M base | $1.65M bonus | $6.65M cap hit | $3.30 dead cap2017 - age: 32 | $6.25M base | $1.65M bonus | $8.65M cap hit | $1.65 dead capThis is a breakdown of how much time he's missed in his career:2009 - missed 14 games2010 - missed 0 games2011 - missed 4 games2012 - missed 4 games2013 - missed 0 games2014 - missed 9 gamesThat's 31 of 96 games missed thus far, meaning 32.3% (nearly 1/3) of his career he's been hurt.All that said...... we all know that when he's actually in the field, he's a solid player... he can be a playmaker, a hard hitter, and a leader for our young secondary.So, what is your opinion on SS moving past this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
russ7000 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 if he could stay healthy for the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Depends on the draft and FA, but I'd be fine with replacing him if the right option came alongThe best ability is availability Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If Moore misses several games again this year with injury then I expect him to get the axe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbabygrady Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 He's not a young guy anymore but I read that he dropped some weight in the offseason which can only help. he was looking pretty thick last year around this time. I'd like to see what he can do in this defense but yea if he misses more than 4 games again this season I'd be looking for other options next year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Even Bleed Red Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 I never thought he was a great player. He's a good player IF healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Running on fumes #StartIsh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Mo Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Hopefully all the times sitting at home hurt kept his tank full Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Personally, I hope he can stay healthy & have a productive season for us.If that happens. I'd like to see us use our 1st or 2nd rounder next offseason to draft his eventual replacement.Let the rookie play behind him for a season or battle for the starting job (2016), and then cut Moore before 2017. I just can't see him being worth an 8.65M cap hit, especially if we have someone waiting in the wings. The contract seems structured so that releasing him in the final year isn't going to create much dead money. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Flare Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre5000 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 he never had it IMO.. Always been over hyped and over blown.. People massage his ballz over ONE big hit he made that was made into a GIF.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andre5000 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 its ISH-TIME !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbabygrady Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 the one play I always think of is actually his interception off Brees where he ran halfway across the field and made a sick catch. of course he pulled his hamstring doing that but it was still amazing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Biased stats are biased. Take out 2009, ya know, 6 years ago, and he's played in nearly 80% of the games in the past 5 years. If he's healthy, he plays. If he's good, he stays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 he never had it IMO.. Always been over hyped and over blown.. People massage his ballz over ONE big hit he made that was made into a GIF.. Might be the 10 forced fumbles and 14 picks over the last 5 seasons that get him his praise. You won't find many SS's that have more than him over that time frame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFalcon25 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Even if he stays healthy for 16 games you'd have to consider letting him go. He's only shown bits and pieces of being a great player, but otherwise pretty average. His dead money drops after this year, and his cap hits go up. Unless he has a great year, that's a bad combination for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBurdz155 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 he never had it IMO.. Always been over hyped and over blown.. People massage his ballz over ONE big hit he made that was made into a GIF.. Dude has the potential and has put up good numbers when healthy. Give the man his credit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBurdz155 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 If he misses a lot of games this year, its time to let him go. Love Will Mo but he needs to stay on the field. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Biased stats are biased. Take out 2009, ya know, 6 years ago, and he's played in nearly 80% of the games in the past 5 years. If he's healthy, he plays. If he's good, he stays.Since we're picking and choosing which years to include if you take the last 4 years William Moore has missed 26.6% of the games the Falcons have played. Either way that number is way too high. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted August 25, 2015 Author Share Posted August 25, 2015 Biased stats are biased. Take out 2009, ya know, 6 years ago, and he's played in nearly 80% of the games in the past 5 years. If he's healthy, he plays. If he's good, he stays.So, mentioning his entire career is somehow biased, yet throwing out one year of it so you can pretend like he's been healthy isn't? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Since we're picking and choosing which years to include if you take the last 4 years William Moore has missed 26.6% of the games the Falcons have played. Either way that number is way too high.And if we look at the last 3 years then Hawley has barely played half the games, yet he's a freakin hero around here. Season ending injuries are stat-skewers. Hard to justify including a big injury from 6 years ago as a rookie in judging him today. If that injury occurred in the past 2-3 years then sure, but it's too long ago to be fair in today's assessment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconsfan567 Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 And if we look at the last 3 years then Hawley has barely played half the games, yet he's a freakin hero around here.Season ending injuries are stat-skewers. Hard to justify including a big injury from 6 years ago as a rookie in judging him today. If that injury occurred in the past 2-3 years then sure, but it's too long ago to be fair in today's assessment. Hyberbold much? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 So, mentioning his entire career is somehow biased, yet throwing out one year of it so you can pretend like he's been healthy isn't?We should resign Jackson to boost the running game then. He has averaged 950 rushing yards per season. Nevermind his average the past few seasons, we gotta judge him on his entire career, right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 Hyberbold much?Hawley has played in 26 out of the last 48 games for us. That is 54%. No hyperbole here, unless you mean the hero part, in which case I'd say considering the crap that gets talked about players that have done far more than he ever has, he looks like a "hero" to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted August 25, 2015 Share Posted August 25, 2015 He's still got it...when he's out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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