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William Moore: Still Got It Or Running On Fumes?


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Willy Mo is once again spending time with the trainers rather than being on the field. While I fully understand that it's preseason (& therefore it's better to take extra precautions & hold guys out, especially aging vets w/ a history of injuries issues), if Moore can't play in at least 13 of 16 regular season games this year, it is time to move on?

The remainder of his contract looks like this:

2015 - age: 30 | $3.5M base | $1.65M bonus | $5.36M cap hit | $4.95 dead cap

2016 - age: 31 | $4.5M base | $1.65M bonus | $6.65M cap hit | $3.30 dead cap

2017 - age: 32 | $6.25M base | $1.65M bonus | $8.65M cap hit | $1.65 dead cap

This is a breakdown of how much time he's missed in his career:

2009 - missed 14 games

2010 - missed 0 games

2011 - missed 4 games

2012 - missed 4 games

2013 - missed 0 games

2014 - missed 9 games

That's 31 of 96 games missed thus far, meaning 32.3% (nearly 1/3) of his career he's been hurt.

All that said...

... we all know that when he's actually in the field, he's a solid player... he can be a playmaker, a hard hitter, and a leader for our young secondary.

So, what is your opinion on SS moving past this year?

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Depends on the draft and FA, but I'd be fine with replacing him if the right option came along

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He's not a young guy anymore but I read that he dropped some weight in the offseason which can only help. he was looking pretty thick last year around this time. I'd like to see what he can do in this defense but yea if he misses more than 4 games again this season I'd be looking for other options next year

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Personally, I hope he can stay healthy & have a productive season for us.

If that happens. I'd like to see us use our 1st or 2nd rounder next offseason to draft his eventual replacement.

Let the rookie play behind him for a season or battle for the starting job (2016), and then cut Moore before 2017. I just can't see him being worth an 8.65M cap hit, especially if we have someone waiting in the wings. The contract seems structured so that releasing him in the final year isn't going to create much dead money.

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he never had it IMO.. Always been over hyped and over blown.. People massage his ballz over ONE big hit he made that was made into a GIF..

Might be the 10 forced fumbles and 14 picks over the last 5 seasons that get him his praise. You won't find many SS's that have more than him over that time frame.
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Even if he stays healthy for 16 games you'd have to consider letting him go. He's only shown bits and pieces of being a great player, but otherwise pretty average.

His dead money drops after this year, and his cap hits go up. Unless he has a great year, that's a bad combination for him.

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Biased stats are biased. Take out 2009, ya know, 6 years ago, and he's played in nearly 80% of the games in the past 5 years. If he's healthy, he plays. If he's good, he stays.

Since we're picking and choosing which years to include if you take the last 4 years William Moore has missed 26.6% of the games the Falcons have played. Either way that number is way too high.

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Biased stats are biased. Take out 2009, ya know, 6 years ago, and he's played in nearly 80% of the games in the past 5 years. If he's healthy, he plays. If he's good, he stays.

So, mentioning his entire career is somehow biased, yet throwing out one year of it so you can pretend like he's been healthy isn't?

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Since we're picking and choosing which years to include if you take the last 4 years William Moore has missed 26.6% of the games the Falcons have played. Either way that number is way too high.

And if we look at the last 3 years then Hawley has barely played half the games, yet he's a freakin hero around here.

Season ending injuries are stat-skewers. Hard to justify including a big injury from 6 years ago as a rookie in judging him today. If that injury occurred in the past 2-3 years then sure, but it's too long ago to be fair in today's assessment.

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And if we look at the last 3 years then Hawley has barely played half the games, yet he's a freakin hero around here.

Season ending injuries are stat-skewers. Hard to justify including a big injury from 6 years ago as a rookie in judging him today. If that injury occurred in the past 2-3 years then sure, but it's too long ago to be fair in today's assessment.

Hyberbold much?

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So, mentioning his entire career is somehow biased, yet throwing out one year of it so you can pretend like he's been healthy isn't?

We should resign Jackson to boost the running game then. He has averaged 950 rushing yards per season. Nevermind his average the past few seasons, we gotta judge him on his entire career, right?

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