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Well, I don't have tapes and a lot of dialogue. I will say this. He got a sack against the 3rd team last week and 2nd team this week.

I think he stays on the roster and will likely push a favorite or two off the squad.

Keep Maponga, let Kroy walk.

It's time.

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Keep Maponga, let Kroy walk.

It's time.

I was headed down the page to see if this had been said. Kroy hasn't gotten a sack yet, hasn't really even looked to be that big of a factor at all, and he's playing against the other teams backups also. Time to cut bait with the boy and let him go co-star with kim in her show.

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Keep Maponga, let Kroy walk.

It's time.

Yep. Kroy has been Kroy this offseason. There would usually be debates like, "Did you see Kroy out there? He was a beast last night. He showed some great flashes." Then someone else would say, "Are you nuts? He did absolutely nothing."

Now, being this is the Falcons MB it still has to happen. So, even though there is no talk about Kroy in that way, there are still two others. One may be safe this year because Cliff Matthews. The other not so much.

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Unless Kroy starts doing something I agree 100%

And somewhere Mike Smith is crying

I do sometimes wonder what Mike Smith would be feeling if this year we went like 14-2 and won the super bowl. It would kind of kill my self esteem if after I was fired from my team suddenly they become the best in the league.

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Another player who's potential has been seen. Comes at a perfect time for him as well with the binaries and everything.

Happy to see him excel in his role and become a good backup to rotate in.

Kroy needs to go.

I'm glad to see Cliff Matthews back from injury because that dude is powerful. He had a near sack yesterday as well. Can't say he's gonna be a part of the 53 but would like to see what he can do on this scheme.

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I do sometimes wonder what Mike Smith would be feeling if this year we went like 14-2 and won the super bowl. It would kind of kill my self esteem if after I was fired from my team suddenly they become the best in the league.

Unless I have severely misjudged his character I would think Smith would be thrilled that the team won it all.

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Well, I don't have tapes and a lot of dialogue. I will say this. He got a sack against the 3rd team last week and 2nd team this week.

I think he stays on the roster and will likely push a favorite or two off the squad

Before this pre-season started I thought Billick was a moron for saying we didn't have "talent" (the last two seasons). After seeing two games I've now come to the realization he was right. When the second string comes in and the pressure stops all I can see is last year. Some of our best pass rushers from 2014 are now 2nd or 3rd string and it's evident that's where they always belonged. The contrast between our now starters and our then starters is eye opening. All our best from last year now look like 1 trick ponies and I can't get excited about them like I once did after seeing what we have now.

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Well, I don't have tapes and a lot of dialogue. I will say this. He got a sack against the 3rd team last week and 2nd team this week.

I think he stays on the roster and will likely push a favorite or two off the squad.

Bro when I said maponga impacted a few games last season some guys got on me. They said we had absolutely no talent and my reply was and always is you have to play the talent to develop it. I would also reply I've seen the so called no talent do better than a starter in preseason only to disappear during the regular season and guys would still say we didn't have talent. I know what talent looks like. Especially when it's raw. I work in a talent based business. I deal with raw talent. I've heard repeatedly maponga sucks. Cut him. Now under Quinn he's looking like the guy from TCU. What a difference a day makes. Or a coach.
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Before this pre-season started I thought Billick was a moron for saying we didn't have "talent" (the last two seasons). After seeing two games I've now come to the realization he was right. When the second string comes in and the pressure stops all I can see is last year. Some of our best pass rushers from 2014 are now 2nd or 3rd string and it's evident that's where they always belonged. The contrast between our now starters and our then starters is eye opening. All our best from last year now look like 1 trick ponies and I can't get excited about them like I once did after seeing what we have now.

I started to add that. It was true though. His comment was taken out of context, but I still say we didn't have the talent. We have a LOT of new players on defense. Every last one of them is what I said we didn't have last year...the dog. That dog is the guy who gets everyone else excited through tough play and attitude. Now we have a few...its a good thing.

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Bro when I said maponga impacted a few games last season some guys got on me. They said we had absolutely no talent and my reply was and always is you have to play the talent to develop it. I would also reply I've seen the so called no talent do better than a starter in preseason only to disappear during the regular season and guys would still say we didn't have talent. I know what talent looks like. Especially when it's raw. I work in a talent based business. I deal with raw talent. I've heard repeatedly maponga sucks. Cut him. Now under Quinn he's looking like the guy from TCU. What a difference a day makes. Or a coach.

Maponga was at the same level as in college. So he was still raw talent. I see him growing into a rotational guy, but he also makes that same point I have been making...he was the best pass rusher we had...just didn't get shot.

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Before this pre-season started I thought Billick was a moron for saying we didn't have "talent" (the last two seasons). After seeing two games I've now come to the realization he was right. When the second string comes in and the pressure stops all I can see is last year. Some of our best pass rushers from 2014 are now 2nd or 3rd string and it's evident that's where they always belonged. The contrast between our now starters and our then starters is eye opening. All our best from last year now look like 1 trick ponies and I can't get excited about them like I once did after seeing what we have now.

I think it's more of both than most people want to admit. Yes, the biggest improvement on defense is the LB corps, and I don't think it's a coincidence that that crew has seen the most turnover. Second biggest improvement is pass rush, and again, the d-line had a lot of turnover.

But I also see players like Soliai, Worrilow, and even Goodman and Maponga flashing when they were largely non-factors last year. Not to mention Tyson Jackson, who looks like a man possessed. I think the new scheme plus some carefully targeted players has turned this around. Other than Beasley, we don't have a lot of money/draft capital tied up in any of these guys, so if it's that easy, why didn't the coaching staff do this last season? The answer is there was too much of a disconnect between what they thought they wanted to do and who they needed to get it done. That clearly is not an issue this year. Which is to say, the scheme is helping a lot, plus I don't think the coaching staff gets off the hook entirely for the personnel issues. We needed upgrades, but they didn't know how to get them or, in the case of Soliai and Jackson, what to do with them once they got here.

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Before this pre-season started I thought Billick was a moron for saying we didn't have "talent" (the last two seasons). After seeing two games I've now come to the realization he was right. When the second string comes in and the pressure stops all I can see is last year. Some of our best pass rushers from 2014 are now 2nd or 3rd string and it's evident that's where they always belonged. The contrast between our now starters and our then starters is eye opening. All our best from last year now look like 1 trick ponies and I can't get excited about them like I once did after seeing what we have now.

I don’t know man, the only new starter on the defensive line is Beasley. T Jax, Solai, and Hageman was here last year. The entire starting secondary was here last year – Moore, Tru, Rocky and Rico. The line backing unit was upgraded with Durant and Reed, but Worrilow was a starter last year. So that’s only three new faces to the starting defense. We improved the depth more than anything.

The biggest changes are scheme, coaching and overall attitude.

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I don’t know man, the only new starter on the defensive line is Beasley. T Jax, Solai, and Hageman was here last year. The entire starting secondary was here last year – Moore, Tru, Rocky and Rico. The line backing unit was upgraded with Durant and Reed, but Worrilow was a starter last year. So that’s only three new faces to the starting defense.

The biggest changes are scheme, coaching and overall attitude.

Beasley on the line, but LB's is almost completely different plus look a the rotation. It looks like a very different team...but I can see how its up for debate.

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Before this pre-season started I thought Billick was a moron for saying we didn't have "talent" (the last two seasons). After seeing two games I've now come to the realization he was right. When the second string comes in and the pressure stops all I can see is last year. Some of our best pass rushers from 2014 are now 2nd or 3rd string and it's evident that's where they always belonged. The contrast between our now starters and our then starters is eye opening. All our best from last year now look like 1 trick ponies and I can't get excited about them like I once did after seeing what we have now.

We have 6 starters from last season still starting. Only 5 new starters and 2 of them were on the talentless team already. Allen, Durant, Reed, Beasley And Hageman. One of whom was cut by Billicks bro n law(Allen). Billick was right about some guys but not the whole unit. What he was wrong about or failed to mention was his bro n law installed a bs philosophy and scheme. Now all of a sudden worrilow can cover because he's not being asked to cover deep middle. Just an area. All of a sudden maponga looks to maybe remove a vet and provide good depth. All of a sudden babs is revived. All of a sudden soliai and tjax are making an impact. We had talent. It was not used right or not at all.
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I dont know man, the only new starter on the defensive line is Beasley. T Jax, Solai, and Hageman was here last year. The entire starting secondary was here last year Moore, Tru, Rocky and Rico. The line backing unit was upgraded with Durant and Reed, but Worrilow was a starter last year. So thats only three new faces to the starting defense. We improved the depth more than anything.

The biggest changes are scheme, coaching and overall attitude.

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Beasley on the line, but LB's is almost completely different plus look a the rotation. It looks like a very different team...but I can see how its up for debate.

My issue is why the previous staff didn't go get some of these cheap rotational players or scheme fits? And why do the players they brought in look so much better this season versus last?

I think the prior coaching staff bears part of the blame for the personnel issues. Yeah, we lacked talent in some key areas, but they prioritized by getting Steven Jackson and re-signing Gonzo, so whose fault was that? I do think Dimitroff has a ton of personnel decisions that don't pan out, but at some point, you can't just assume Dimitroff finally figured out how to get FAs and draft picks in one season. The staff's wants and priorities play into that. I think Quinn is the biggest difference in both scheme and personnel.

Can't like this. Met my quota for the day. Lol

I have the same problem WRT your post no. 23. +1 for that one.

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