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The Falcons have TWO completely different and separate teams......probably like most other NFL teams.

1) Our starting lineup, 1st string is Top 5 talent and production in the NFL. At least it looks that way early on.

2) 2nd thru 4th string.......NCAA Div.III at best. Abysmal in so many ways.

Again, perhaps many other teams in the league fit this description but the drop off with the Falcons is amazing.

No depth.

If and when several key starters go down with injuries........goodbye post season.

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In all fairness our second team defense were playing against their starters.

and before anyone cries foul, keep in mind that most teams leave their starters in longer just to see them do something good(I know, not the exact reason). Falcons did it last year with the starring defense against a teams #2's
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The Falcons have TWO completely different and separate teams......probably like most other NFL teams.

1) Our starting lineup, 1st string is Top 5 talent and production in the NFL. At least it looks that way early on.

2) 2nd thru 4th string.......NCAA Div.III at best. Abysmal in so many ways.

Again, perhaps many other teams in the league fit this description but the drop off with the Falcons is amazing.

No depth.

If and when several key starters go down with injuries........goodbye post season.

Hageman out, Tru out, Moore out

Freeman out, Coleman out, A. Smith out, Roddy out

Yep this 1st string can't afford to lose any "key" Starters //purple

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The Falcons have TWO completely different and separate teams......probably like most other NFL teams.

1) Our starting lineup, 1st string is Top 5 talent and production in the NFL. At least it looks that way early on.

2) 2nd thru 4th string.......NCAA Div.III at best. Abysmal in so many ways.

Again, perhaps many other teams in the league fit this description but the drop off with the Falcons is amazing.

No depth.

If and when several key starters go down with injuries........goodbye post season.

We have depth. We were playing without 7 guys who is in the main player rotation. 15 players everybody is crying about will not even be on the team on 1 Sep.

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Hageman out, Tru out, Moore out

Freeman out, Coleman out, A. Smith out, Roddy out

Yep this 1st string can't afford to lose any "key" Starters

Imo, missing those offensive starters and still having success against their defense is more promising than missing those defensive player against their offense. That's just my opinion. Jets offense is bad, especially at qb
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thats a great pt that a lot of our starters were already missing. babs is not suppose to start but he rocked it, Ish played great for moore, hankerson looks like a younger bigger roddy, and most likely two of our rbs are coming back next week. past that alford played really well against marshall and trufant will be back soon. starr, bradford, thezi (sp),maponga all flashed as well. as units the back ups sucked but we got some good depth at some positions. I do think we nee to bring in another qb and a swing tackle rather that be jake long or whoever, past that Im very happy. ps I hate bartu but even he played well last night. also how can I forget nick williams, he is making a very strong push

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We need more depth on OL and a better backup QB. At this point these are our only huge weaknesses. These issues greatly effect how we look in pre season games.

But keep in mind though last night we were missing 7 starters, so our second team was pretty much in reality our 3rd team and so on.

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thats a great pt that a lot of our starters were already missing. babs is not suppose to start but he rocked it, Ish played great for moore, hankerson looks like a younger bigger roddy, and most likely two of our rbs are coming back next week. past that alford played really well against marshall and trufant will be back soon. starr, bradford, thezi (sp),maponga all flashed as well. as units the back ups sucked but we got some good depth at some positions. I do think we nee to bring in another qb and a swing tackle rather that be jake long or whoever, past that Im very happy. ps I hate bartu but even he played well last night. also how can I forget nick williams, he is making a very strong push

I agree almost entirely. Our backups that we usually have injuries on were already starting. The only depth we lack is on the Oline and 3rd stringers. All our 2nd stringers are pretty good when thrown into the mix with the 1s

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Yep...I'm talking about so called football fans of this team that didn't realize we had 7 key players out in the 1st quarter. They also didn't realize that the 1st quarter prove the exact opposite of lack of depth.

it would help if you ask what positional group he's talking about. Don't know if you actually watched that line and qb play after the first quarter but he has a point. You probably got upset when someone said this the last 2 seasons as well. Gotta pull those h shades off sometimes
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We need more depth on OL and a better backup QB. At this point these are our only huge weaknesses. These issues greatly effect how we look in pre season games. But keep in mind though last night we were missing 7 starters, so our second team was pretty much in reality our 3rd team and so on.

Good and valid point.

I'm hoping for a MIRACLE Season. A season where we have no significant injuries.

A miracle I know but Lord, wouldn't it be nice to see, just once, what could happen ???

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Good and valid point.

I'm hoping for a MIRACLE Season. A season where we have no significant injuries.

A miracle I know but Lord, wouldn't it be nice to see, just once, what could happen ???

I think we do have depth every where but qb and o line, but im in the camp if ryan goes down we toast anyways. the o line needs a tackle and then I think we will be fine, bc even though jon is not the perfect fit for this system he can be a good backup, and person at guard is also not horrible. but by god we need a real back up tackle

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it would help if you ask what positional group he's talking about. Don't know if you actually watched that line and qb play after the first quarter but he has a point. You probably got upset when someone said this the last 2 seasons as well. Gotta pull those h shades off sometimes

He is the one that came out with the extreme general statment. I think that we have tremendous depth at most defensive positions, receiver and tightend...adequate depth at runningback. So I strongly disagree with his statement and frankly find it asinine!

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If you figure we have 90 players on the roster now, and 7 starters out, and we have to cut to 53 before the season, that means of the folks who played today, the first team was drawn from 46 of the 53 likely finalists for the roster.

And that means the 2nd team was using guys (Beasley, Hawley, etc.) who are projected as starters, but ALSO guys who were starting with the 1st team who are NOT projected as starters (Adams, Ward, etc.). And this in turn means that our depth is a whole lot better than it looks from just watching the game. For example, if Tru goes down and Adams steps in, we know the team can excel. We won't ever have all the backups on the field at the same time.

The biggest concern I have is o-line depth. If we lose a key starter there, we can shuffle the pieces a bit, but really the backups are terrible, and the starters (I'm looking at you James Stone) look worse playing with the backups. A lot of stuff goes into that, and Ryan and a good run game can mask those problems, but if we start losing o-line pieces again we're going to have problems. Beyond that, I think our depth is fine for the most part.

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If you figure we have 90 players on the roster now, and 7 starters out, and we have to cut to 53 before the season, that means of the folks who played today, the first team was drawn from 46 of the 53 likely finalists for the roster.

And that means the 2nd team was using guys (Beasley, Hawley, etc.) who are projected as starters, but ALSO guys who were starting with the 1st team who are NOT projected as starters (Adams, Ward, etc.). And this in turn means that our depth is a whole lot better than it looks from just watching the game. For example, if Tru goes down and Adams steps in, we know the team can excel. We won't ever have all the backups on the field at the same time.

The biggest concern I have is o-line depth. If we lose a key starter there, we can shuffle the pieces a bit, but really the backups are terrible, and the starters (I'm looking at you James Stone) look worse playing with the backups. A lot of stuff goes into that, and Ryan and a good run game can mask those problems, but if we start losing o-line pieces again we're going to have problems. Beyond that, I think our depth is fine for the most part.

agreed but do think we got depth on the inside, if we can fine a solid swing tackle I like our depth on the line as well

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He is the one that came out with the extreme general statment. I think that we have tremendous depth at most defensive positions, receiver and tightend...adequate depth at runningback. So I strongly disagree with his statement and frankly find it asinine!

but you came to the conclusion that you know fully what he's talking about. Ask questions first
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