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Tight end Jacob Tamme caught 154 passes from Peyton Manning through seven seasons with the Indianapolis Colts and Denver Broncos. He has yet to catch a pass from Atlanta Falcons teammate Matt Ryan in a live game.



Regardless, Tamme's extensive work with Ryan this offseason and throughout training camp has given him a sense of what to expect from his quarterback this season.



What's the biggest adjustment in catching passes from Ryan as opposed to Manning?



"The difference is just in the way the offense operates," Tamme said. "With Peyton, a lot of times, he's diagnosing a lot of things at once, and he might hold on to it for an extra second to throw it somewhere that maybe it's not supposed to go, on paper.



"With Matt, he's a tactician in the same way, but our offense is calibrated a little bit differently. So, there's a little bit more timing; a little bit more play-action game that wasn't necessarily a part when I was around Peyton."



Manning's Colts and Broncos used more 11 personnel (one running back, one tight end, three receivers), with Manning often checking at the line of scrimmage. Ryan, in offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan's offense, will use 21 personnel (two running backs, one tight end, two receivers) and 12 personnel (one running back, two tight ends, two receivers) with an emphasis on the run and play-action.



"They both have a lot of similarities; all the things that you want in a quarterback and all the things I love playing with in a quarterback -- the way that they lead in the huddle, in the meeting, on the practice field,'' Tamme said. "It's been fun for me to see that being around Matt for the first time. You could tell quickly he had a lot of the same qualities as Peyton.''



We all know about Manning screaming Omaha as part of his pre-snap routine, and Ryan appeared to shout out his own version of the same during training camp. So, which quarterback is louder, particularly in the huddle?



"Equal loudness," said Tamme, who got his first live action with Ryan during last week's preseason opener. "With Matt, I can't wait to get out there that first time when we're down by three and need to make a drive to win the game because Matt's already done that a bunch, and I'm looking forward to getting a chance to be a part of that with him.



"With Peyton, it was the same way. You feel confident when those situations come up. When those situations come up, you feel like, 'Hey, let's go.' It will be the same with Matt as it's ever been with Peyton, for me.''



By the way, Manning has an NFL-record 51 game-winning drives in 17 NFL seasons, the most by any quarterback since the merger (1970), according to ESPN Stats & Information. Ryan has 26 game-winning drives, the most by any quarterback since he entered the league in 2008.



Lastly, Tamme talked about Manning's deep ball as opposed to Ryan's. Obviously, the 39-year-old Manning doesn't have the same arm strength he used to, particularly after multiple neck surgeries. By contrast, the 30-year Ryan has plenty of firepower left in his right arm, as he showed throughout training camp with some incredibly accurate long balls.



"Matt does a great job throwing the deep ball,'' Tamme said. "Peyton ... what season is this for him? It's up there. So, I would say if you had a throwing distance competition now, Matt probably wins.



"Look, they can both throw it deep. They can both throw it on the money deep, which is what really matters. You can throw it as far as you want incomplete.''


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Bu, bu, bu, but, Many Falcons fans say you can't compare Matt Ryan to Peyton Manning!!!! Doesn't Jacob Tammie know this? How dare him compare Ryan to Manning like this!!!

I personally think it's a very legitimate comparison in the particular areas he compared them in. To suggest to you can't compare these guys in certain areas is pure hogwash designed by Matt Ryan detractors , of course you can.

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Bu, bu, bu, but, Many Falcons fans say you can't compare Matt Ryan to Peyton Manning!!!! Doesn't Jacob Tammie know this? How dare him compare Ryan to Manning like this!!!

I personally think it's a very legitimate comparison in the particular areas he compared them in. To suggest to you can't compare these guys in certain areas is pure hogwash designed by Matt Ryan detractors , of course you can.

Tamme did something AFMB posters cannot do. He compared based on experience. You guys just start with all kinds of nonsense.

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Until Matt can lead this team to more than one playoff victory in his career i dont want to hear him compared to any All Time Greats.

ATLANTA — Atlanta tight end Jacob Tamme was worried about playing with another quarterback after catching passes from Peyton Manning most of his career with Indianapolis and Denver.

"Peyton has been a huge part of my career, and he's a great friend of mine," Tamme said. "It's hard for me to go somewhere and feel like I was not falling off a cliff at the quarterback position. This is one of the few places where you could go and feel like you weren't."

After two days of his first training camp with the Falcons, Tamme said there has been no scary break-in period. He said Falcons quarterback Matt Ryan has helped make for an easy transition.

"Matt has been awesome," Tamme said after Saturday's practice. "I love working with him. He's got a lot of similarities with Peyton — the way he leads, the way he approaches the quarterback position. I've got a lot of respect for that, so I'm really excited."

Ryan is entering his eighth season as Atlanta's starter, and his status as a respected quarterback helped draw Tamme to Atlanta as a free agent. Another attraction was the chance to play in new offensive coordinator Kyle Shanahan's system, which makes good use of tight ends.

Tamme may be the favorite to win the starting job in training camp over returning starter Levine Toilolo and Tony Moeaki.

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He has been saying that since the Beginning of TC

So at the END OF THE DAY.....

Whose words are gonna hold more weight.............You or Jacob Tamme?????

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Bu, bu, bu, but, Many Falcons fans say you can't compare Matt Ryan to Peyton Manning!!!! Doesn't Jacob Tammie know this? How dare him compare Ryan to Manning like this!!!

I personally think it's a very legitimate comparison in the particular areas he compared them in. To suggest to you can't compare these guys in certain areas is pure hogwash designed by Matt Ryan detractors , of course you can.

well for me, I am tired of the beat to death comparisons between Matt and "insert star qb here"

Who gives a rats patoot! I just want our team to win!! period!

Oh yeah.. BRING BACK THE HICKORY STICK!!

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well for me, I am tired of the beat to death comparisons between Matt and "insert star qb here"

Who gives a rats patoot! I just want our team to win!! period!

I'll let Jacob Tammie know you get butt hurt when he compares Matt Ryan to Peyton Manning
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Bottom line, the "you can't compare" card is pure BS.

You absolutely can compare many of the qualities of Peyton Manning to Matt Ryan, just as Tammie said there are SEVERAL similarities between the two.

Its call the edge of the earth thinking. Its when everything has to have an extreme reasoning, extreme outcome, and extreme input only.

Sure you can absolutely compare anything. You can honestly compare an apple to an orange. Thing is, you can lose those who really want to learn by only using guys who paid their dues as your comparison. The problem with all of this coming out and all of the hooflada, is this is a very different type of comparison. I can compare the difference between having lived in two places you may not be able to...because I lived there. So, I can absolutely compare Berlin to Augusta, but they have no obvious similarities.

The only thing similar when I do the comparing is that I lived in both places, they both have a transit system, and they both have restaurants. Maybe a few other things, but even with the comparison the quality isn't there. I most absolutely would not compare the two unless asked to do so in an interview. I will then show both similarities and differences, but I will stay classy and make sure that I catch no backlash for one.

Now, just throwing Manning up there by handwavium and starting there. Well, guys who know football may actually laugh in RL. Think about it and then may say, "You can't compare those two." then even a guy who doesn't know much will look at that post and say, "You cannot compare those two." No one is saying you are unable to do so.

The point is, for the sake of posting and understanding maybe you should not use Brady or Manning. I personally know what makes them similar, but I also know what makes them different and those differences are what stand out to a fan.

There is a big difference between what is normally done on the boards and what Tamme did.

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But also understand KOG, we hear all about the differences ( one of the main ones is Manning has won a SB and Ryan hasn't) so the Ryan detractors are always pointing out the differences, but as soon as a member points out the similarities those very same people scream the "You can't compare" BS at you.

My position, which is the rational one, is you CAN compare BOTH the differences AND the similarities.

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But also understand KOG, we hear all about the differences ( one of the man ones is Manning has won a SB and Ryan hasn't) so the Ryan detractors are always pointing out the differences, but as soon as a member points out the similarities those very same people scream the "You can't compare" BS at you.

My position is you can compare both the differences and the similarities.

You can and its unfair for you and others who actually like to compare the two and you should be able to. The thing is, the fan base is very divided over a few things and it starts getting made out in an aggressive format. If you have a homeristic POV, then automatically it should be adhered to. Then the haters (I guess) start taking on the bad guy trope. People don't even know they are doing that. Some do, but they get dealt with.

I guess maybe if people started talking about the subject and not the design, it would go better.

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