MarkMc44 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He doesn't appear to have many. He appears to have the physical tools, the poise, the intelligence and the mind set you look for in an NFL QB. Maybe there is something the coaches see that is keeping him from the primary back-up role. Could it be a possible lack of deep ball skills that would eventually marginalize his game, or is it just lack of game experience. Any thoughts?GO FALCONS!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Gritz Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He doesn't appear to have many. He appears to have the physical tools, the poise, the intelligence and the mind set you look for in an NFL QB. Maybe there is something the coaches see that is keeping him from the primary back-up role. Could it be a possible lack of deep ball skills that would eventually marginalize his game, or is it just lack of game experience. Any thoughts?GO FALCONS!!! People whose opinions I trust seem to think that the main detriment to Renfree's game is his hesitation to release the ball quickly. It's almost like he doesn't trust his initial reads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Sean Renfree (QB)HT: 6'3" WT: 219LBS.POSITION: QBSCHOOL: DukeARM LENGTH: 32"HANDS: 9"OverviewRenfree was a four-year letterman at Notre Dame Prep High School. As a senior, he completed 197-of-357 passes for 3,353 yards and 41 TDs with just six INTs. In his junior year, Renfree, threw for 2,483 yards and 25 TDs with five interceptions. Renfree finished off his high school career by completing 23-of-33 passes for a state championship game record 411 yards and five TDs against Cottonwood Mingus. He was named Arizonas Big School Class 5A and 4A Player of the Year and to the All-Arizona team as a senior by The Arizona Republic.As a freshman in 2009, Renfree played in five games as a backup and completed 34 of 50 passes for 334 yards, four touchdowns, and two interceptions. In 2010, Renfree started 11 of the 12 games, and was the recipient of the Carman Falcone Award as Dukes Most Valuable Player. On the season, he completed 285-of-464 pass attempts for 3,131 yards with 14 touchdowns and 17 interceptions. In 2011, serving as a team co-captain, Renfree started all 12 games and completed 282-of-434 pass attempts for 2,891 yards with 14 touchdowns and 11 interceptions. This set the Duke single-season record for pass completion percentage. In 2012, Renfree completed 297 of his 442 passes for 3,113 yards, 19 touchdowns and 10 interceptions.SELECTED BY: FalconsROUND: 7PICK (OVERALL): 43 (249)PICK ANALYSIS:COMBINE STATSANALYSISStrengthsTall, with a well built frame. Possesses decent athletic ability for his size. Strong arm, can make all the throws. Shows velocity on out patterns and deep routes. Solid footwork and a smooth release. Does a good job of throwing receivers open. Willing to take chances.WeaknessesHas never put up great numbers. Will make poor decisions that lead to interceptions. There are times when he won't work through his progressions properly, and will simply lock on to his intended target. Injury history.NFL ComparisonDerek AndersonBottom LineRenfree is a tall, well-built quarterback. He's made too many poor decisions resulting in interceptions over his career, but he has the arm strength to make all the throws. When this is combined with his experience in an NFL-like offense, it's possible that a team will take a liking to him as a backup quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falc_Fan_Since_Six Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He looks better than Yates. Of course that may not be saying much. Honestly though, I was puzzled how Yates beat him out for the # 2 job last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkMc44 Posted August 16, 2015 Author Share Posted August 16, 2015 People whose opinions I trust seem to think that the main detriment to Renfree's game is his hesitation to release the ball quickly. It's almost like he doesn't trust his initial reads.He's getting the ball out pretty well now. Hopefully, that was a weakness he has worked on and it's showing results.GO FALCONS!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O.D.B Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 other than staring down his receiver every time the ball is snapped? His success against the titans may be due to our WR depth being better than their secondary depth. There's a reason he and Yates are still battling. Yates is no quite as bad as people are saying and Refree is no where near as good as people are saying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernFalcon93 Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Yates looked horrendous, his very first snap he threw the ball to nobody. His second snap he almost killed Hardy. Hes very inaccurate and that kills you in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ovie_Lover Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 other than staring down his receiver every time the ball is snapped? His success against the titans may be due to our WR depth being better than their secondary depth. There's a reason he and Yates are still battling. Yates is no quite as bad as people are saying and Refree is no where near as good as people are saying. you act like Yates and Renfree weren't playing under the same circumstances, if Renfree's success was because of our WR depth then what's Yates excuse for blowing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I think he has a slightly weak arm that doesn't have much zip on his passes. Which isn't awful as long as he hits the short-intermediate routes. Seems a tad hesitant at times, but I think it's because he and Yates are afraid to turn the ball over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 other than staring down his receiver every time the ball is snapped? His success against the titans may be due to our WR depth being better than their secondary depth. There's a reason he and Yates are still battling. Yates is no quite as bad as people are saying and Refree is no where near as good as people are saying. These. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A-TowN.- Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Yeah I definitely saw him staring down his guys too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Renfree isn't great by any means, he just looked it after that trainwreck of a performance by Yates. That being said he's still young. He can improve his football awareness and quicken his route reads. Arm strength may be tough to improve on. I usually don't care too much about arm strength but even his mid-passes seem to float on him. That said he seems pretty well suited to a WCO so we'll see. I'm expecting him to be our #2 for next game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaschart Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 People whose opinions I trust seem to think that the main detriment to Renfree's game is his hesitation to release the ball quickly. It's almost like he doesn't trust his initial reads.That sounds like something that would come with experience. Yates looked terribad, and I'm excited that Yates is the one we're complaining about at this point. How effing fantastic is it that our second string QB is the biggest problem so far? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mc Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Arm is fine. Looking off a db is something they can fix. Reenfree has looked good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O.D.B Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 you act like Yates and Renfree weren't playing under the same circumstances, if Renfree's success was because of our WR depth then what's Yates excuse for blowing?Not acting like anything. Let's not split hairs here, if Matt goes down which one of the two do you see giving us Wins? For me it's neither. Yes, his one drive was competent compared to Yates's almost 3 quarters of play. How would you feel if SR had 3 drives 1 TD and two Picks?I'm hoping they both show me something that gives me some faith because winning the turd that smells the least doesn't really seem like a prize. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) Renfree had two drives and led the offense to the game winning TD with the first and on the second worked the play clock down to 2 or 3 seconds to drain the game clock down to what ended up being 15 seconds from their own 14 yd line. All of his passes were accurate which is more than can be said for Yates. As well as Renfree performed with the game on the line, I'd now like to see how he does against a starting calibre defense. Edited August 16, 2015 by Ryan_2.0_WCO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Renfree can be a solid backup if they give him a chance. He played for the coach who molded both Mannings, and while his numbers weren't amazing at Duke, he did quite well for what he had to work with. He just needs to have a little more confidence at this level, which will come with more playing time.He really hasn't had a chance to show what he can do or to get comfortable thus far.His rookie season he was hurt. He got hurt in his final game at Duke, which caused him to miss the combine & pro day. He would've been drafted much higher otherwise. He got hurt again (likely re-aggrivated his injured shoulder) in our final preseason game his rookie season & was placed on IR.Last year, they obviously had no idea what to expect from him as he was hurt all year the year before, so they made the trade for Yates. Even though a healthy Refree seemed to outplay Yates in preseason, Yates got more playing time... likely due to the staff wanting to not look like the trade was a failure.Now, we have a situation where Yates is supposed to be familiar with the scheme being run by our OC, which would give him a slight upper hand. Thankfully though, unlike the previous regime, this one seems to actually mean it when they say it's an open competition. If Renfree continues to outplay Yates, he should & hopefully will finally get his moment to shine very soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I watched both play college ball (Yates was 5 minutes from my house at UNC, Renfree was 15 minutes down the road at Duke). Yates is never going to lead a team to victory. That's never been his role & it never will be. He is strictly a game manager & an extremely inconsistent one at that. Renfree is not flawless, but he can actually lead a team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Falcon Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 (edited) 1. not Matt Ryan2. not Aaron Rodgers3. halitosisI could list more but don't want to pile on.Pros - 1. Better than TJ Yates Edited August 16, 2015 by JC Falcon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 Renfree looked like Matt Ryan out there. Yates looked like bad Mark Sanchez. Renfree looked superior last preseason too. It's not a coincidence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He doesn't appear to have many. He appears to have the physical tools, the poise, the intelligence and the mind set you look for in an NFL QB. Maybe there is something the coaches see that is keeping him from the primary back-up role. Could it be a possible lack of deep ball skills that would eventually marginalize his game, or is it just lack of game experience. Any thoughts?GO FALCONS!!!He's one hard hit away from being on I.R Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He's one hard hit away from being on I.RSo is every player in the NFL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigglypuff Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 I delay judgement until Sean Renfree has had an equitable outing to DJ Yates, for Shanahan must still give Renfree a full course of in game repetitions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyicefalcon Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 So is every player in the NFLNo I disagree.Rivers / Matt Ryan / Rodgers have taken serious beating ....especially Matt. I don't think Renfree is that physically or mentally strong to withstand such beating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hibachi Posted August 16, 2015 Share Posted August 16, 2015 He doesn't appear to have many. He appears to have the physical tools, the poise, the intelligence and the mind set you look for in an NFL QB. Maybe there is something the coaches see that is keeping him from the primary back-up role. Could it be a possible lack of deep ball skills that would eventually marginalize his game, or is it just lack of game experience. Any thoughts?GO FALCONS!!! He looks like a young A-Rod in Falcons uni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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