caveman Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 At one time, I thought Southward was going to develop into a solid DB - assuming that he would stay healthy, work his hardest on and off the field, and find the right position to utilize his considerable skills. I guess I was wrong ...... that sux. I must admit that I didn't see a lot of Collins in college, but by most accounts, he was a good value where we picked him. With that high of a pick, I hoped he would be in the top 3 CB battle - since the nickel package is run as much as any other set. Alford has shown to me that he belongs, even if they wanted him to cover the slot sometimes depending on the matchups. Bottom line: Southward and Collins both have the size and speed that teams covet these days, however, I will be very disappointed if one does not become an 'impact' player in our secondary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ki46dinah Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 southward hot a lot of experience, a ton...but he has never been a playmakerJalen...that dude needs serious seasoning first Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 projects Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Collins is a rookie and Southward is in his 2nd year. I'll wait and see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbabygrady Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 at least we seem to have enough depth at CB that these guys have some time to learn and improve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Collins is a rookie and Southward is in his 2nd year. I'll wait and see.Exactly. Southward came in last year on a dysfunctional defense, and probably needs another year of development before he can be written off. Collins, I have no idea about, and nothing good has been reported about his time in camp so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The O.D.B Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Both could come on strong next year with some good coaching. I don't expect much from either this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 But we could have taken Gregory instead of Collins. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeorgiaBoyz Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 (edited) Only Falcon fans... Writing off a player coming into his second year that wasn't coached up worth a **** & doubting a rookie that's on his 12th day of Camp. 😂 Edited August 13, 2015 by GeorgiaBoyz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfalconsp Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Only Falcon fans... Writing off a player coming into his second year that wasn't coached up worth a **** & doubting a rookie that's on his 12th day of Camp. 😂He has to come out looking like Trufant is playing right now or he's a bust. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollo lawson Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Only Falcon fans... Writing off a player coming into his second year that wasn't coached up worth a **** & doubting a rookie that's on his 12th day of Camp. 😂Thank you! Give the dude a chance. Memo to Falcon fans: "the last coaching staff was clueless as fuk and played favorites" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveman Posted August 13, 2015 Author Share Posted August 13, 2015 These were high picks. What is it? Some say they look stiff and slow to react - I don't know. A corner needs to have several attributes .... but swivel hips, sticking to the receiver like glue, and having ball awareness are some of them. You would think these qualities would have been evident (or not) when the scouts watched all that tape. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Personally i hope Southward finds a way to stick around for one more year Before we give up on him. He's always been known to be a project, even at Wisconsin he was a wild card who played multiple positions. He's the type that I'm willing to be patient with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
caveman Posted August 14, 2015 Author Share Posted August 14, 2015 Can we keep them both on the 53 man roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Falcon Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The measurables make them high ceiling prospects. The game film took them out of the first round.A lot of folks complained about taking high floor but low ceiling guys. Seems we've changed that up taking guys with low floors but have high ceiling potential if they can play to their speed and measurables. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Smith moved Clabo from LG to RT and moved Dahl from LT to RG --- geniusSmith moved Mike Johnson from RG to RT and moved Reynolds from RT to RG--- idiotSmith moved Replogle from DT to OG---?????????????Quinn moves Southward from FS to CB and moves Allen from CB to FS ---TBDCollins ??????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnrealfalcoN Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Only Falcon fans... Writing off a player coming into his second year that wasn't coached up worth a **** & doubting a rookie that's on his 12th day of Camp. 😂Considering there were posters saying Hageman is P Jerry 2.0 this time last year, shouldn't even be surprising. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFalcon25 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I'll be the first to admit that I was hoping to hear more positives coming out of camp about Collins. But seriously... The kid hasn't even played in a pre-season game, yet, let alone an actual contest. I'm just hoping that we see him on the field contributing by late in the season. As for Southward, he's basically a rookie at this point, too. New position, new scheme, new coaches. What little experience he got last year probably isn't making a big difference. I'm not really expecting him to be much more than a backup and special teams body. Long story short, it's WAY too early for any complaints about these two or talks of them being busts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRid Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Southward looked o.k. for a rookie at safety last year. I hope he can stick around and be developed, but there is a chance he doesn't make the 53. Kevin White was getting 1st team reps and I don't think I've even seen Southward's name in a report from camp. Quinn will have to cut some pretty good players to get down to 53. Will he be able to keep 6 CBs with all the DLinemen and LBs he will have to keep? If not it will be Southward or White to the practice squad and it seems White has the lead now. Southward has been injured some to so that put him behind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
*TMo* Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Patience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbabygrady Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Smith moved Clabo from LG to RT and moved Dahl from LT to RG --- geniusSmith moved Mike Johnson from RG to RT and moved Reynolds from RT to RG--- idiotSmith moved Replogle from DT to OG---?????????????Quinn moves Southward from FS to CB and moves Allen from CB to FS ---TBDCollins ???????how is Replogle still on the roster? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vafalconfan Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Collins only played in 10 college games so not just you, but no one has seen a lot of tape on him. He has a very high ceiling however and will most likely play sparingly this year as he develops. Southward has made a tough position change, but the dude has the size and speed to become a very good corner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkonator Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yea man after they been in the league for this long. I can tell they won't do much and where wasted picks...wait wait that can't be right they have been in the league for a whole whopping year(dez 1, Collins 0) people need to understand patience and let these guys develop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkonator Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Collins only played in 10 college games so not just you, but no one has seen a lot of tape on him. He has a very high ceiling however and will most likely play sparingly this year as he develops. Southward has made a tough position change, but the dude has the size and speed to become a very good corner.started in 10, has played in o believe I saw was 26 total games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozer Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 But we could have taken Gregory instead of Collins.LOL, what's funny SpongeDad is that some butthurts don't understand you are being sarcastic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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