cnst Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Don't have a membership but here's what they showWith the Falcons set to open the exhibition season against Tennessee on Friday at the Georgia Dome, Falcons coach Dan Quinn has his coaching plan in place.Defensive coordinator Richard Smith will call the defense from the press box while being assisted by assistant head coach/defensive passing game coordinator Raheem Morris. http://www.myajc.com/news/sports/football/smith-to-call-falcons-defensive-signals/nnGSS/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlking Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) I see no problem there because Quinn needs to keep a eye on Shanahan. Ive never been sold on dude as a offensive coordinator and ive never been a fan of that zone scheme blocking. Never liked it when Atlanta ran it under Mora and Alex Gibbs either....... I prefer a man on man scheme, where you wear down the defense. It works, but its too finesse for short yardage situations. Edited August 10, 2015 by atlking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) I dont have a problem with it - its still DQs defense and DQ will most likley come up with the game plan. Plus Quinn need to be free to manage the entire game. Edited August 10, 2015 by FentayeJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I guess he has learned exactly the way quinn wants the defense to run, and how to run it..Im cool with it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC Falcon Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 They all work together, but your CEO hires VPs to make most day to day decisions. CEO then has time to take a bigger view on flow of the game and decide major things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lubba Lubba© Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Never would have guessed that considering how quiet he's been Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
runshoot Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I see no problem there because Quinn needs to keep a eye on Shanahan. Ive never been sold on dude as a offensive coordinator and ive never been a fan of that zone scheme blocking. Never liked it when Atlanta ran it under Mora and Alex Gibbs either....... I prefer a man on man scheme, where you wear down the defense. It works, but its too finesse for short yardage situations.I understand thats your opinion and how you feel about Kyle.But Kyle made Brian Hoyer relevant and that is saying a ton. Not just because of the Browns lack of talent, but because of the complete dumpster fire that team is with it's GM and owners meddling in game day affairs.And then all you have to do is watch this and you know the Falcon's have the right guy. Strong willed, decisive and smart.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czRCmq_mHXs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlking Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I understand thats your opinion and how you feel about Kyle.But Kyle made Brian Hoyer relevant and that is saying a ton. Not just because of the Browns lack of talent, but because of the complete dumpster fire that team is with it's GM and owners meddling in game day affairs.And then all you have to do is watch this and you know the Falcon's have the right guy. Strong willed, decisive and smart.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czRCmq_mHXsJust my preference. I like fullback oriented offenses. I like play action type offenses. I want to beat up the defensive front, and that zone scheme is just trickery. It works, but it doesnt wear down a defense. Most teams in the NFL cant convert short yardage situations with the run anymore because of the finesse offensive schemes that are being run now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 I see no problem there because Quinn needs to keep a eye on Shanahan. Ive never been sold on dude as a offensive coordinator and ive never been a fan of that zone scheme blocking. Never liked it when Atlanta ran it under Mora and Alex Gibbs either....... I prefer a man on man scheme, where you wear down the defense. It works, but its too finesse for short yardage situations.completely disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlking Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 completely disagreelmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papachaz Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 lmaoswift is that you? has the tone to be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlking Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 swift is that you? has the tone to bewho the heck is swift? lmao....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 lmaowhat? I mean i dnt agree with that statement that a zbs doesnt wear down a defense.. go back and check the playoff game we had against st louis in 04? I believe we ran for 250+yds and their defense was gassed.Its a hard scheme to stop for a d lineman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Lubba Lubba© Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Just my preference. I like fullback oriented offenses. I like play action type offenses. I want to beat up the defensive front, and that zone scheme is just trickery. It works, but it doesnt wear down a defense. Most teams in the NFL cant convert short yardage situations with the run anymore because of the finesse offensive schemes that are being run now.It wears down their knees and ankles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlking Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) what? I mean i dnt agree with that statement that a zbs doesnt wear down a defense.. go back and check the playoff game we had against st louis in 04? I believe we ran for 250+yds and their defense was gassed.Its a hard scheme to stop for a d lineman.They was gassed because Michael Vick ran wild all over the field that day: Edited August 10, 2015 by atlking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Just my preference. I like fullback oriented offenses. I like play action type offenses. I want to beat up the defensive front, and that zone scheme is just trickery. It works, but it doesnt wear down a defense. Most teams in the NFL cant convert short yardage situations with the run anymore because of the finesse offensive schemes that are being run now.It does wear a defense down. Dlineman get tired of running sideways every run play just about. Foster wore us down a few years ago to the point there was nothing we could do with him late in the 4th qtr. And most zbs systems use a FB. Arian's fb's go to the pro bowl just about every year. What makes you say zone teams don't use a fb? Every one I can think of uses a FB. Wash did with Shanny, Houston, and Cleveland. Denver did with TD. We did with Justin Griffith. A FB is a major part of a zbs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheFatboi Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 what? I mean i dnt agree with that statement that a zbs doesnt wear down a defense.. go back and check the playoff game we had against st louis in 04? I believe we ran for 250+yds and their defense was gassed.Its a hard scheme to stop for a d lineman.That's true. Zbs wears a defense out by running you side ways to death. Dlineman hate that. Especially if it's a defense known for power. Best way to defuse a strong dline is to get it running sideways. Sideline to sideline. They hate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 It does wear a defense down. Dlineman get tired of running sideways every run play just about. Foster wore us down a few years ago to the point there was nothing we could do with him late in the 4th qtr. And most zbs systems use a FB. Arian's fb's go to the pro bowl just about every year. What makes you say zone teams don't use a fb? Every one I can think of uses a FB. Wash did with Shanny, Houston, and Cleveland. Denver did with TD. We did with Justin Griffith. A FB is a major part of a zbsNice. I wouldn't waste too much time with the troll however. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfsutton Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 swift is that you? has the tone to beI was thinking the exact same thing. It's a glitch in the matrix. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RunningThePiszOuttaTheBall Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Don't have a membership but here's what they show With the Falcons set to open the exhibition season against Tennessee on Friday at the Georgia Dome, Falcons coach Dan Quinn has his coaching plan in place. Defensive coordinator Richard Smith will call the defense from the press box while being assisted by assistant head coach/defensive passing game coordinator Raheem Morris. http://www.myajc.com/news/sports/football/smith-to-call-falcons-defensive-signals/nnGSS/ I think (and hope) that is only for the preseason (or part of the preseason). I hope Quinn will call the defense in the regular season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfsutton Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 This doesn't concern me that much. As I understand it, the strength of this defense is in the scheme and execution. The play calling tends to be fairly simple I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Just my preference. I like fullback oriented offenses. I like play action type offenses. I want to beat up the defensive front, and that zone scheme is just trickery. It works, but it doesnt wear down a defense. Most teams in the NFL cant convert short yardage situations with the run anymore because of the finesse offensive schemes that are being run now.Are you under the impression Kyle doesn't use playaction? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlking Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) Are you under the impression Kyle doesn't use playaction?Did i say he didnt?? I pointed out what i like. I like screens too, and im pretty sure he has that too. My problem is the ZONE BLOCKING. I dont particularly like offenses built around that. Edited August 10, 2015 by atlking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 Did i say he didnt?? I pointed out what i like. I like screens too, and im pretty sure he has that too. My problem is the ZONE BLOCKING. I dont particularly like offenses built around that.Fair enough, though I don't agree that it doesn't wear defenses down. If anything it makes the defense cover more ground which wears the big guys up front down faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlking Posted August 10, 2015 Share Posted August 10, 2015 (edited) It wears down their knees and anklesZone blocking is borderline clipping. I never liked it. To me, its a sissy approach to blocking. If it works, it works, but i wouldve taken Chan Gailey over Shanahan. With the talent the Falcons have, Gailey couldve done some things with them. Edited August 10, 2015 by atlking Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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