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If We Have The Money ..... Sign Long And Mathis Asap


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If either of those dudes were actually as good as people think based on their names, they'd already be with a team, learning the playbook, etc. If they were the saviors of the o-line that people here claim & $5m a year was a bargain for their services, a team in need would have snatched them up by now. However, they keep talking to teams & neither is getting signed by ANYONE for several months now.

Nobody was willing to trade for Mathis & nobody seems willing to sign him either. NFL personnel evaluators know way more than any of us about what these guys have left & their lack of action in signing Mathis to a "bargain" of $5m a year speaks volumes.

They're both washed up or d@mned close to it. That should be sorta obvious at this point.

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Quinn and company give "show me" contracts to guys like this. I suspect Long has offers (even from us) and is looking for more years/dollars/guaranteed money before he commits. He may be hoping a training camp injury adds to his value for some team. While the world sees him as an injury list, he hopes to market himself as a Pro Bowl tackle.

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TD wants to sit on the money in case our out classed lineman has to over compensate to try to keep Ryan alive so he can pick up more scrub lineman late in the season when ours go down. Instead of spending money upfront and building a decent line

. I hope none of our guys get injured, but it makes you wonder if we are asking to much of who we've got and they are trying to do more than their abilities allow and end up injured.

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If we don't sign either, it's because the coach (that everybody believes has this team on the right path) doesn't think we need them. I'm not convinced that our line is as horrible as a lot of you think. And if it is, then DQ believes that Long and Mathis aren't significantly better and worth the loot. Some want to blame TD, but Quinn clearly hasn't pushed him to make it happen. We will learn a lot more starting at 7:00 PM on Friday.

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It almost makes TOO much sense though.

Pretty much this. I know it's a new era and all, but it's just part of the Falcons heritage not to make a lot of sense. See, if we signed Mathis we might potentially win the Super Bowl, and that's a big no no....

Hopefully the Falcons front office will remember who they are and sign some nobody from the Jaguars.

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This literally could make the difference of winning it all or not .

Now that's a stretch.

Two players who in their prime never got their teams remotely close to a SB is supposed to be the difference in us winning one now that they are washed up?

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If either of those dudes were actually as good as people think based on their names, they'd already be with a team, learning the playbook, etc. If they were the saviors of the o-line that people here claim & $5m a year was a bargain for their services, a team in need would have snatched them up by now. However, they keep talking to teams & neither is getting signed by ANYONE for several months now.

Nobody was willing to trade for Mathis & nobody seems willing to sign him either. NFL personnel evaluators know way more than any of us about what these guys have left & their lack of action in signing Mathis to a "bargain" of $5m a year speaks volumes.

They're both washed up or d@mned close to it. That should be sorta obvious at this point.[/quote

Well said what your saying makes too much sense for some to fathom round here.

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TD wants to sit on the money in case our out classed lineman has to over compensate to try to keep Ryan alive so he can pick up more scrub lineman late in the season when ours go down. Instead of spending money upfront and building a decent line

. I hope none of our guys get injured, but it makes you wonder if we are asking to much of who we've got and they are trying to do more than their abilities allow and end up injured.

Dimi is saving our cap money for Julio and is not interested in upgrading our Oline.

They are the Steven Jacksons of the o-line.

And our Oline is the Steven Jackson of turnstiles.

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Julio won't even take up 15 mil in cap let alone 30+ mil try again.

Your logic is horrible. What if Hankerson, Clayborn, and/or Schofield show out this season and we want to sign any combination of them back in addition to Julio? Are we gonna do it with 15m?

Not to mention any other FAs we may desire

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Julio won't even take up 15 mil in cap let alone 30+ mil try again.

We only have $16.5M and he could take up all of that if Dimi front loads his contract.

Maybe, but p!ssing away several million on washed up players ain't gonna help matters.

When did Mathis get washed up. Long had injury problems but he wasn't washed up. Both are better than anything on our roster.

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Considering Long and Mathis will get 1 or 2 year deals they won't exactly cripple the cap now will they?

You forget the principle of the cap rollover. If we rollover spend 10m on those two guys this season, we only rollover 5 to next year....which leaves you trying to replace all our 1 year guys plus go shopping for new guys

It's called planning ahead. And not being impulsive.

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We only have $16.5M and he could take up all of that if Dimi front loads his contract.

When did Mathis get washed up. Long had injury problems but he wasn't washed up. Both are better than anything on our roster.

If that was actually true, they would be on our roster. There is absolutely nothing stopping it from happening. The need to improve is there. The cap space os there. Yet, we haven't signed either of these guys. Neither has any other team in the NFL or CFL.

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You forget the principle of the cap rollover. If we rollover spend 10m on those two guys this season, we only rollover 5 to next year....which leaves you trying to replace all our 1 year guys plus go shopping for new guys

It's called planning ahead. And not being impulsive.

Did I ever say sign Mathis and Long? No. I simply stated resigning Julio wouldn't stop us from doing it as RamsFanSince2015 suggested.

Would I be apposed to getting them? No.

Will I cry if we don't? No.

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