FentayeJones Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Andrew Hirsh: There’s a lot of buzz surrounding Vic Beasley, Jr. —especially now that he’s flashed his quickness with the pads on. What are your general thoughts on him?Charley Casserly: Beasley’s a key because, A) the Falcons haven’t had a great pass rush, and when you watch the Quinn defense, one of the trademarks is the upfield part of it. Getting a pass-rusher at the top of the draft was crucial. Beasley is quick, explosive, great first step.AH: There are many reasons why the Falcons targeted Beasley. Why do you think it was so important to add someone of his caliber?CC: Vic does have the explosion to give you the big plays and force the offense to alter their game plan. What you want are guys that opponents have to game plan against. In scouting, I’d always say, ‘OK, we have to game plan against this guy.’ That kind of puts it in perspective. You have to game plan against Beasley.AH: When you watch Beasley’s tape, what stands out the most?CC: I think with him, it’s getting off the ball. If you can win the edge, that forces the tackle to immediately have a mindset of, ‘I have to protect the edge.’ So you’re going to get false starts. You’re going to force the tackle to start running, so he’s going to get off-balance and open himself up for the inside move. So, to me, the No. 1 thing on the outside guy is, can they win the edge? Now Beaseley’s not the tallest guy, so his ability to duck under is important — like Dwight Freeney. Like Freeney, he can make himself small but maintain his balance. Beasley’s negative is that he is an undersized guy, so how’s he going to be when he is matched up against the big tackles? Matchup situations are what you’ll have to watch there.AH: Jalen Collins has a lot of raw talent and seems to mesh with Atlanta’s defensive mindset. What do you think of him?CC: Collins fits the size profile that I would think Quinn would want, what he had in Seattle: the big, physical type corners that can play the press. So we’ll have to see, to me, how he adapts when they have to play the zone defense and have to read routes and make instinctive plays. AH: Who in Atlanta’s draft class do you think can surprise a lot of people?CC: Tevin Coleman I thought was probably their best value pick because this guy has the ability to start in the third round. Only about 30 percent of third-rounders end up being starters, but he has speed, quickness, big play ability. And he’s got good instincts.Justin Hardy can help them in the slot, which is something I thought they needed. I think that’s his niche, so there’s another value pick. Grady Jarrett is a guy with quickness. He’s an undersized guy, but he may have a role in nickel in the pass rush, which is something that’s been lacking here. So, again, quickness, explosion off the football. For the fifth round, that’s a good pick. In the seventh round, King is another press type corner, which is something that fits their system.AH: Speaking of Jarrett, a lot of talent evaluators believe he deserved to go higher than the fifth round. At 6-foot-1, he doesn’t have the ideal height of an interior lineman, but do you think he can overcome that in Quinn’s defense?CC: Sometimes the lower guy has leverage, because they can get under the bigger opponents. To me, Jarrett was taken right in the area where he should have been taken — fourth or fifth round — because of the size factor. But if he can come in and give a pass rush and change things up, that’s what you need. One of the things Dan Quinn does, at least what he did in Seattle, is rotate linemen and play waves. That way you stay fresh and your players perform better. (Jarrett) has one thing that he can do really well, and that’s rush the passer, which is hard to find on the defensive line — especially along the interior. They’re rare.AH: Most — if not all — of the Falcons’ picks were selected with the new playbook in mind. Beasley is exactly what you want at LEO. Collins is a physical defensive back who excels in press coverage, much like Seattle’s corners. Tevin Coleman has experience in the outside-zone offense; Hardy looks like the reception machine Atlanta needs to complement Roddy White and Julio Jones. As a former executive, how important do you think it is for coaches and GMs to be on the same page when it comes to drafting?CC: It’s critical because it’s all about communication. In other words, the head coach has to draw you a picture of what he wants. A lot of times, it’s the ability of the head coach to be clear and simplistic at the same time. You’re not going to get the perfect body type for every position. And you can be too restrictive and eliminate too many players. So it’s important to have a picture, have it simple so everybody understands it, because your scouts are on the road and they have to understand it. That’s crucial to have that. And then the coach’s ability to take the raw product, especially the second half of the draft, and develop it — that’s also crucial.Note the bolded portion. Coaches have to give the GM and scouts a clear vision of what they want in a player. That happened this year, hence the great draft.http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/blog/article-1/QA-With-NFL-Network-Analyst-Charley-Casserly/326e9ccc-5aa8-4aa3-a4f4-fca7aa6426b1 Edited August 4, 2015 by FentayeJones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Disagree about Jarret going where he should, but all in all I like it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 All I can say is I'm very excited about where this team is headed and if you can hear all the reports we've been hearing and listen to the way Quinn coaches and not be excited about this upcoming season then I'm not sure how to help you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Note the bolded portion. Coaches have to give the GM and scouts a clear vision of what they want in a player. That happened this year, hence the great draft.http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/blog/article-1/QA-With-NFL-Network-Analyst-Charley-Casserly/326e9ccc-5aa8-4aa3-a4f4-fca7aa6426b1Exactly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drunken Minotaur Zebra Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Disagree about Jarret going where he should, but all in all I like it.Yea I don't get that part. Some people had him in the first, almost nobody had him going later than the third. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yea I don't get that part. Some people had him in the first, almost nobody had him going later than the third. Apparently 32 teams had him going later than the 3rd....and 4th....😜 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Note the bolded portion. Coaches have to give the GM and scouts a clear vision of what they want in a player. That happened this year, hence the great draft.http://www.atlantafalcons.com/news/blog/article-1/QA-With-NFL-Network-Analyst-Charley-Casserly/326e9ccc-5aa8-4aa3-a4f4-fca7aa6426b1I think we had a very good draft in 2014 as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captain Falcon Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Two days ago on NFL network, Casserly said that outside of Beasley, we have no pass rush, and he basically said we have no linebackers. Casserly is not a believer in the Falcons, yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 CC: I think with him, it’s getting off the ball. If you can win the edge, that forces the tackle to immediately have a mindset of, ‘I have to protect the edge.’ So you’re going to get false starts. You’re going to force the tackle to start running, so he’s going to get off-balance and open himself up for the inside move. So, to me, the No. 1 thing on the outside guy is, can they win the edge? Now Beaseley’s not the tallest guy, so his ability to duck under is important — like Dwight Freeney. Like Freeney, he can make himself small but maintain his balance. Beasley’s negative is that he is an undersized guy, so how’s he going to be when he is matched up against the big tackles? Matchup situations are what you’ll have to watch there. AH: Speaking of Jarrett, a lot of talent evaluators believe he deserved to go higher than the fifth round. At 6-foot-1, he doesn’t have the ideal height of an interior lineman, but do you think he can overcome that in Quinn’s defense? CC: Sometimes the lower guy has leverage, because they can get under the bigger opponents. To me, Jarrett was taken right in the area where he should have been taken — fourth or fifth round — because of the size factor. But if he can come in and give a pass rush and change things up, that’s what you need. One of the things Dan Quinn does, at least what he did in Seattle, is rotate linemen and play waves. That way you stay fresh and your players perform better. (Jarrett) has one thing that he can do really well, and that’s rush the passer, which is hard to find on the defensive line — especially along the interior. They’re rare.http://www.atlantafa...f4-fca7aa6426b1 we got 2 proto-typical pass rushers in CC's words and CC is trying to make it seem like we didn't...because of size/height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJmusic Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 we got 2 proto-typical pass rushers in CC's words and CC is trying to make it seem like we didn't...because of size/height.Yea, I don't think he realized how bad he contradicted himself just then. I think he's supposed to point out negatives because that's his job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PapaJoe Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Jarrett is a great example of when the player is better but the draft debate of "Need v. Talent" rears its head along with "Positional Value". A lot more teams draft on Need before they draft on talent; ESPECIALLY as the rounds pass. Factor in also that positional value actually has a lot to do with where some guys are slotted to be drafted, and thus where they fall on team boards. Every year some guys fall a ong way that shouldn't because they fall into the 'perfect storm' of getting passed over due to a collection of circumstances.The Falcons draft was superb btw! Every single pick the talent & drive combo outweighed the cost of the pick. The Falcons' 2015 draft has real potential to be one of the NFL's better drafts from top to bottom. There aren't very many that I truly feel that way about in any draft by any team... but this one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Yea, I don't think he realized how bad he contradicted himself just then. I think he's supposed to point out negatives because that's his job.He is saying that they seem to be prototypical in athleticism and possibly in skill sets, but their size could be a limiting factor. I don't think he is contradicting himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karst41 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Good Read with a nice ballance on opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Disagree about Jarret going where he should, but all in all I like it.It's so weird to see people continuing to cling to the antiquated notion of "size" and such. We've seen Jurrell Casey, Geno Atkins, Aaron Donald, etc all come into the league and do great things with that body type. Jarrett looks like that type of player. I'm not sure why that wouldn't override the "well yeah but he's not 6'4" so IDK" impulse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NOVAFalconFan Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 It's so weird to see people continuing to cling to the antiquated notion of "size" and such. We've seen Jurrell Casey, Geno Atkins, Aaron Donald, etc all come into the league and do great things with that body type. Jarrett looks like that type of player. I'm not sure why that wouldn't override the "well yeah but he's not 6'4" so IDK" impulse. Well, Casserly is old and possibly antiquated. On the other hand, I would guess that for every 10 players someone comes up with who were exceptions to rules, he could probably come up with 50-100 who weren't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Well, Casserly is old and possibly antiquated. On the other hand, I would guess that for every 10 players someone comes up with who were exceptions to rules, he could probably come up with 50-100 who weren't.^^^this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Well, Casserly is old and possibly antiquated. On the other hand, I would guess that for every 10 players someone comes up with who were exceptions to rules, he could probably come up with 50-100 who weren't.I appreciate the appeal to the outlier argument....the problem is, a given prospect isn't just his height. Sure, you can find guys that were undersized that didn't do so well at the next level. But undersized plus decent workout numbers plus great tape on the nation's best defense against solid competition? If anything, that sort of argument is exactly what I don't understand. Grady Jarrett specifically projects really well to the pros. He's not a "well, if he can learn to do this or harness that" guy. He's got the same thing Aaron Donald had.....the guy looks like a very good NFL player. Maybe that's a little simplistic but the guys that truly jump off of tape against quality competition typically do okay at the next level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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