gazoo Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Matt Ryan (by Derrik Klassen)http://www.footballsavages.com/nfl-quarterback-passing-charts-nfc-south/Some quarterbacks are underrated, others are under appreciated. Matt Ryan, on the other hand, is entirely misconceived. The general consensus on Ryan is that he is a conservative, limited-armed passer with zero functionality vs any sort of pressure. Oddly enough, he is almost entirely opposite of that player. That player is Andy Dalton, not Matt Ryan. Of the traits listed, the only one with any sort of truth to it is the knock on his arm strength, but even that stretches the truth. Most everything about him is misunderstood, especially with the Falcons finishing bottom 10 in the league for two seasons in a row. Team record be damned, Ryan is one of the best passers in the league.The most interesting claim about Ryans game is that he can not handle pressure, whether it be pressure on a given play by pass rushers or situational pressure, such as a critical 3rd/4th down or a close game in the 4th quarter. Hes been labeled as scared, a choker, jittery you name it. He is not any of those things. Ryan handles pressure on a down-to-down basis very well. His maneuvering of the pocket is fantastic and he doesnt drop his eyes or waste steps when doing so. In the case that he is flushed out of the pocket, Ryan keeps his cool, finds the quickest way out, keeps his eyes down field and works up toward the line of scrimmage to make the throw easier. Textbook.Though, more of the misconception on Ryan comes from how well people seem to think he handles big games. Most recently, this is rooted in the outcome of the San Francisco game in 2012. 1) [This is my obnoxious opinion, dont mind me.] That was pass interference. 2) Ryan played quite well in that game. 3) People forget that Ryan constructed a game-winning drive vs Seattle just one week prior.Ryan has done quite a bit in critical games such as these, but his defense has seldom been there to back him. Excuses, excuses, right? If you want to call it that way, be my guest, but the tape has shown time and time again that Ryan shows up far more often than not in any sort of pressure situation.Next up on the list of poor claims about Ryans game is that he is conservative. That is not true. Where it seems that roots from is that he is incredibly smart and safe with the ball, leading many to think he is scared. He is not hyper aggressive like a Matt Stafford or Andrew Luck, but Ryan knows when to test windows and take shots. His brilliance coupled with a strong sense of what he is capable of has been misconstrued as him being scared and ultraconservative, like an Alex Smith. Ryan is not Stafford or Smith, he is Matt Ryan, and his aggression level is at a near perfect medium. Ryan will seldom force a throw into a poor situation, nor will he play too safe to not take advantage of defenses and create offense.Now, Ryans arm is where there is legit reason to knock him. Then again, many go too far with that as well. Ryans arm is not spectacular. He is not going to fire bullets all around the field and split defenders with velocity. Without saying anymore, that certainly does sound limiting, doesnt it? For Ryan, it is not. Fellow Savages writer Ben Natan just went over how weak-middling armed quarterbacks make up for their physical deficiencies. In short, he said that weak-middling armed quarterbacks have to have elite instincts and intelligence in order to be top level players. Ryan fits that mold. His understanding of how to beat the defense before the snap, move through his reads once the ball is snapped and anticipate the perfect opening for a throw is top notch. The cherry on top is that Ryan has impeccable accuracy to complete these throws.Speaking in terms of pure accuracy and ball placement, Ryan is among the top five in the league. Only Aaron Rodgers, Philip Rivers and Peyton Manning stand equal or better than him in that regard. Despite an average arm, Ryan throws the deep ball incredibly well, which is rare under any circumstance. In the short and intermediate areas, where quarterbacks really make their money, Ryan thrives as well. The touch on some of his passes is breathtaking, most notably when having to throw over defenders. What makes Ryan so valuable is that he maximizes his receiving corps by throwing passes to receivers in stride and allowing them to gain yards after the catch. Few quarterbacks allow for extra yards like Ryan does.To sum up a lengthy rant, Matt Ryan is quite literally the opposite of what many perceive him to be. They take his brains for being soft, over scrutinize his arm and speak irrationally of his ability when under duress. Much of this has to do with the teams success. It is unfair, but it is the truth and that wont change until the team improves as a whole. General perception be damned, Ryan is a top 10 quarterback. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdogg Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Great article!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I knock Ryan a decent bit for all sorts of reasons, but this article is on point. People knock him for all the wrong reasons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Actually kind of like what he says about all of them. He certainly nailed it with Ryan's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 that's my quarterback! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Great article!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) One thing I'm curious about: if you have poor arm strength, can't you just remedy that by working out and building muscle? It seems like arm strength would be the easiest of all weaknesses to remedy Edited August 3, 2015 by likeriver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 One thing I'm curious about: if you have poor arm strength, can't you just remedy that by working out and building muscle? It seems like arm strength would be the easiest of all weaknesses to remedyNot really. Ryan can throw a football a lot better than your average powerlifter. It's more physiological than just raw strength. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raysnill1 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 One thing I'm curious about: if you have poor arm strength, can't you just remedy that by working out and building muscle? It seems like arm strength would be the easiest of all weaknesses to remedyRyan's arm strength is fine. case in point, that pass he threw to Roddy against the Panthers traveled 63 yards thru the air:that's pretty dang good to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Not really. Ryan can throw a football a lot better than your average powerlifter. It's more physiological than just raw strength.Physiological in what sense? If it's not muscle, then you basically just have to be blessed genetically, right? Like you have to have a certain musculoskeletal system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It is actually more tendon and things of that nature. It really is something you are pretty much born with. There are ways to improve it with working out, but you will only go so far. The people with rockets were born with the tools necessary to develop it. It is the same thing with boxing. Some people just hit A LOT harder.I used to have this friend in high school. He was like 5'5", but could throw a football damn near 70 yards. He wasn't muscular by any means either. Just had that perfect body mechanic and tendon pop that let him sling shot footballs a crazy distance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeriver Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It is actually more tendon and things of that nature. It really is something you are pretty much born with. There are ways to improve it with working out, but you will only go so far. The people with rockets were born with the tools necessary to develop it. It is the same thing with boxing. Some people just hit A LOT harder.I used to have this friend in high school. He was like 5'5", but could throw a football **** near 70 yards. He wasn't muscular by any means either. Just had that perfect body mechanic and tendon pop that let him sling shot footballs a crazy distance. That makes sense.Regardless, I'm of the camp that Matt Ryan doesn't actually have a weak arm. That rookie deep ball highlight (to Jenkins?) convinced me of that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddlin John Carson Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I was not a fan of Ryan when we drafted him, but imo, he has proven himself as the best falcon qb ever. Is he perfect? Nope. Is he the best passer of the ball in falcon history? Nope. Ryan doesnt throw deep near as well as Bart did..nor does he possess the ability to split two defenders with a blazing fastball like Vick did.What makes Ryan special is two fold....First...he truly does have ice in his veins. Nothing fazes him.Second...the boy has iron in his sack. He aint scared of jack squat. He is tougher than a boar hawg...and seems to love taking a beating. Id hate to have to fight him cuz he is one them dudes like cool hand luke...you can beat him an beat him and he still gets up.With a decent oline and defense...and coaches with a semi decent game planning talent...he will take us to the promised land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtyBird8711 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Very Good Article................ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I was not a fan of Ryan when we drafted him, but imo, he has proven himself as the best falcon qb ever.Is he perfect? Nope. Is he the best passer of the ball in falcon history? Nope. Ryan doesnt throw deep near as well as Bart did..nor does he possess the ability to split two defenders with a blazing fastball like Vick did.What makes Ryan special is two fold....First...he truly does have ice in his veins. Nothing fazes him.Second...the boy has iron in his sack. He aint scared of jack squat. He is tougher than a boar hawg...and seems to love taking a beating. Id hate to have to fight him cuz he is one them dudes like cool hand luke...you can beat him an beat him and he still gets up.With a decent oline and defense...and coaches with a semi decent game planning talent...he will take us to the promised land.Did you just imply Vick is a better passer than Ryan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Did you just imply Vick is a better passer than Ryan?Not what I read. He said Vick had threw bullets, which he did. Wild and crazy bullets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Into the dirt.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddlin John Carson Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Did you just imply Vick is a better passer than Ryan?No sir. I implied that Vick had a stronger arm than Ryan. But let me make clear that Ryan is a much better qb than Vick.One of the all time greats at qb...Joe Montana...didnt have a cannon either.To be a great qb...physical talent is the least important thing one must have. Many a cannon armed qb has flopped in the nfl. Like a USN S.E.A.L., mental strength and toughness is what separates the wheat from the chaff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddlin John Carson Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 There is a difference between being a passer...and an nfl qb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Into the dirt.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Did you just imply Vick is a better passer than Ryan?Nah - he said Vick had a cannon. Good Lord, sometimes the receivers couldn't even hold on to Vick's passes. He threw a really fast and hard pass. Favre was like that, too.Seriously, Vick did not have the accuracy, nor did he ever learn how to manipulate the defense, but he had instinct and speed when he was on the run like no other player I've seen in that position - and he would just flick his wrist like nothing and the ball would speed out a mile. No matter what issues he had off field - no one can deny the freaky athletic ability he had. It was insane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trubirdfan4life Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It is actually more tendon and things of that nature. It really is something you are pretty much born with. There are ways to improve it with working out, but you will only go so far. The people with rockets were born with the tools necessary to develop it. It is the same thing with boxing. Some people just hit A LOT harder.I used to have this friend in high school. He was like 5'5", but could throw a football **** near 70 yards. He wasn't muscular by any means either. Just had that perfect body mechanic and tendon pop that let him sling shot footballs a crazy distance. yeah, pretty much born with it. I had a friend in high school that was 5'8" and could jump higher than anyone onvthe basketball team. No real leg muscles to speak of. Just incredible burst off the ground. Could do any dunk you could imagine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fiddlin John Carson Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It is actually more tendon and things of that nature. It really is something you are pretty much born with. There are ways to improve it with working out, but you will only go so far. The people with rockets were born with the tools necessary to develop it. It is the same thing with boxing. Some people just hit A LOT harder.I used to have this friend in high school. He was like 5'5", but could throw a football **** near 70 yards. He wasn't muscular by any means either. Just had that perfect body mechanic and tendon pop that let him sling shot footballs a crazy distance. Exactly.Body geometry has alot to do with it too. I.E.: Shoulder width and arm length versus height and waist width. The wider your shoulders are than your waist....the longer your arms are...the more hand speed you can generate.Where I play golf at...the local high school team practices there. I regulary see kids that are 130 pounds soaking wet bomb drives 300 plus yards...and hitting 8 irons where im hitting 7 woods. It breaks my ballz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Mike mayock compared andrew lucks arm to matt ryan saying at his pro day.." his arm is good not great, think of a matt ryan, good arm but not great"His arm strength has never been a problem, ppl just try and find anything to be negative thats all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califalcon0013 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Ryan's arm strength is fine. case in point, that pass he threw to Roddy against the Panthers traveled 63 yards thru the air:that's pretty dang good to meI guess it's because people wanna see a 63 yard bullet .matt has arm strength only his 60yarders are more like dropping a bomb than a straight shot Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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