Tuggle'2 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/61173/dan-quinn-says-falcons-still-interested-in-tackle-jake-longVaughn McClure, ESPN Staff Writer FLOWERY BRANCH, Ga. -- Atlanta Falcons coach Dan Quinn said the team remains interested in free-agent offensive tackle Jake Long, who worked out at the facility this week.The Falcons need more depth along the offensive line, particularly at tackle. Long, the first-overall pick in the 2008 draft, is coming of two ACL surgeries. The four-time Pro Bowler also visited the New York Giants and Denver Broncos without immediately signing a contract."I think we're interested in everybody -- not just one specific player -- but anybody ... that can help us perform better. Jake was certainly someone that came in and had an awesome workout here. So Jake, amongst others, are always guys that we're going to keep looking, keep finding ways to compete in that way, too. Every way we can try and make our team better, Thomas (Dimitroff) and I together are going to constantly do that."How the Falcons' offensive line will come together for the regular season remains a question mark. Starting left tackle Jake Matthews (Lisfranc) and starting center Joe Hawley (ACL/MCL) were back on the field coming off significant surgeries. However, both were limited during full-team drills. Starting right tackle Ryan Schraeder suffered what Quinn called a "strain" early in Friday's practice and was held out the rest of the day.Guys such as left guard Mike Person, center James Stone, and right tackle Tyler Polumbus ran with the first team during the practice. Veteran newcomer Chris Chester got some late work at right guard after starter Jon Asamoah rested. Asamoah is coming off a serious ankle injury, but did participate.Quinn spoke about the dynamic of limiting reps for players coming off injury while still trying to develop chemistry in a new, outside-zone blocking scheme."I think the first thing, it's for the players first," Quinn said. "Let's make sure that we're going to ease them back in terms of a rep count. They'll go just as hard on the plays. They might not go as many. And then we'll add to them as we go. It's kind of line getting acclimated back into something."For those guys on the offensive line, I couldn't have been more excited to know how hard they worked to rehab. Now that process has begun to get them back fully underway."Quinn and the coaching staff will get a better feel for how the offensive linemen are adjusting to the outside-zone scheme when the Falcons put the pads on Monday.The Falcons have one lineman on the physically unable to perform list: tackle Lamar Holmes, who suffered a broken right foot during minicamp. Holmes remains on crutches and in a boot.Never saw this posted, it is from two days ago. Interesting to say the least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechaplin Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4030125-dan-quinn-says-falcons-still-interested-in-tackle-jake-long/I think this was Friday. No harm no foul, but I thought (hoped) it was more on the subject. Would be nice, if Jake is healthy..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted August 2, 2015 Author Share Posted August 2, 2015 http://boards.atlantafalcons.com/topic/4030125-dan-quinn-says-falcons-still-interested-in-tackle-jake-long/I think this was Friday. No harm no foul, but I thought (hoped) it was more on the subject. Would be nice, if Jake is healthy.....Oh thanks, didn't see it the first time round. That was the first I had read that his workout actually did go well. If that is the case and is true and not just kind words then I am wondering if it is money that is stopping them ATM. I guess it kind of has to be really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechaplin Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I think Jake wants a starting job which he may get with NYG, but probably not here. JMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuswap Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 I don't know what the hold up is? We are thin at OT and Quinn states he had a excellent workout.Money ? We have a lot of cap space. Idk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iDash Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Coach Quinn needs follows Seattle's path to being the best by trying out over 3,000+ FA players.First couple of years, Seattle Carroll and Co. set a record that will never be broken!If Jake is a better RT, we need to sign him.We can only get MR killed,but who caresIf I see Yates, I swear.We played a TE at T,last year,how embarrassing was that TD!But, I think we are years away from contending with this D anyway.We had Nolan and We finished dead last in D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 I don't know what the hold up is? We are thin at OT and Quinn states he had a excellent workout.Money ? We have a lot of cap space. Idk.Doesn't matter how much cap space we have, if someone's not worth what they're asking for they're not worth what they're asking for.It's unfortunate Long and Mathis seem to have decided to wait so long before lowering their prices enough to sign somewhere (assuming that's the issue). They'll both be behind the ball now if we decide we really do need one of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuswap Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Doesn't matter how much cap space we have, if someone's not worth what they're asking for they're not worth what they're asking for.It's unfortunate Long and Mathis seem to have decided to wait so long before lowering their prices enough to sign somewhere (assuming that's the issue). They'll both be behind the ball now if we decide we really do need one of them. I can't see Jake Long asking for a ton of money considering his injury history but I guess what else would it be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Holding out to get the best offer possible is smart on the players' behalfSure, it'll occasionally backfire, but these guys have agents who are skilled in this art Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Doesn't matter how much cap space we have, if someone's not worth what they're asking for they're not worth what they're asking for.It's unfortunate Long and Mathis seem to have decided to wait so long before lowering their prices enough to sign somewhere (assuming that's the issue). They'll both be behind the ball now if we decide we really do need one of them.If Matthews gets hurt and we have to trot out Polumbus, Rodgers, or (heaven forbid) Bag O'Meat, whatever Long (or any other reasonably adequate LT) is asking will look like a bargain. Polumbus (or any of the others) will likely get Matt killed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BankerBird™ Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Tough call: sign Jake Long or bring back Sam Baker? Hmmm....decisions, decisions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBateser Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Coach Quinn needs follows Seattle's path to being the best by trying out over 3,000+ FA players.First couple of years, Seattle Carroll and Co. set a record that will never be broken!If Jake is a better RT, we need to sign him.We can only get MR killed,but who caresIf I see Yates, I swear.We played a TE at T,last year,how embarrassing was that TD!But, I think we are years away from contending with this D anyway.We had Nolan and We finished dead last in D.The TE at T was because of injuries not talent. And you act like Nolan is some defensive God who makes scrubs all-pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechaplin Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Tough call: sign Jake Long or bring back Sam Baker? Hmmm....decisions, decisions...+1 Like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTBF54 Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 It/s all about the money and contract terms with both of them it seems.... Mathis has had talks with the Jets and it sounds like he wants close to what the Eggies were going to pay him...Jets GM Mike Maccagnan said the team has had talks with free agent G Evan Mathis' agent.It is unclear what "talks" mean, but it does not sound like anything is imminent. Mathis has likely priced himself out of the market, meaning he will need to either drop the asking price or find a team more desperate for guard help than the Jets and Dolphins. The latter seems unlikely. Aug 1 - 1:55 PMSource: Albert Breer on Twitter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Tough call: sign Jake Long or bring back Sam Baker? Hmmm....decisions, decisions...I`ll take the guy who wont give his age or name but if TD calls him he will show up and whoop butt. Before we call Baker back. Baker would probably hurt himself answering the phone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Coach Quinn needs follows Seattle's path to being the best by trying out over 3,000+ FA players.First couple of years, Seattle Carroll and Co. set a record that will never be broken!If Jake is a better RT, we need to sign him.We can only get MR killed,but who caresIf I see Yates, I swear.We played a TE at T,last year,how embarrassing was that TD!But, I think we are years away from contending with this D anyway.We had Nolan and We finished dead last in D.Love the "continuous improvement" way of doing things. Even if you bring in a guy and he's the 90th best then it's worth it. Replace the guy who he is better than. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delaigle Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 it could be a simple case of --"go see what others will offer and then get back to us" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 Tough call: sign Jake Long or bring back Sam Baker? Hmmm....decisions, decisions...You should give yourself a 24 hour ban for such heresy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliechaplin Posted August 3, 2015 Share Posted August 3, 2015 (edited) I can't see Jake Long asking for a ton of money considering his injury history but I guess what else would it be. I mentioned earlier - could be he wants to start . Just a guess Edited August 4, 2015 by charliechaplin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 I don't care if it's Jake Long, Jake Gyllenhall, Jake "The Snake" Roberts, Jake From State Farm, Jake & The Fat Man, or The Two Jakes: I just want someone who is capable of playing LT at a reasonably adequate NFL level behind Matthews.Is that too much to ask? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If Matthews gets hurt and we have to trot out Polumbus, Rodgers, or (heaven forbid) Bag O'Meat, whatever Long (or any other reasonably adequate LT) is asking will look like a bargain. Polumbus (or any of the others) will likely get Matt killed.If Carimi could do it last year without Matt dying i'm not concerned. Mortgaging our future on a mediocre player for a quick fix is not the way to do things man. If we have to wait until next year so be it. There aren't really any guys out there that i'd be able to say i'm comfortable protecting Matt's blindside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 If Carimi could do it last year without Matt dying i'm not concerned. Mortgaging our future on a mediocre player for a quick fix is not the way to do things man. If we have to wait until next year so be it. There aren't really any guys out there that i'd be able to say i'm comfortable protecting Matt's blindside. Carimi DIDN'T do it last year. Matthews slid over to LT. Carimi filled in at RT (except maybe for a few plays where Toilolo was the RT?), where he had help from Toilolo.Who is saying anything about "mortgaging the future"? You see, that right there is a prime example of a "strawman". You assigned to me a position that I didn't take, and expect people to believe I said something I didn't. That is a lie, in essence.Right now, a "mediocre LT" would be a HUGE step up from whatever option we have right now. Right now our options range from "terrible" (Polumbus) to "absolutely no way" (Rodgers, Bag, etc.), so I would get pretty darned excited about "mediocre" to back up Matthews. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Carimi DIDN'T do it last year. Matthews slid over to LT. Carimi filled in at RT (except maybe for a few plays where Toilolo was the RT?), where he had help from Toilolo.Who is saying anything about "mortgaging the future"? You see, that right there is a prime example of a "strawman". You assigned to me a position that I didn't take, and expect people to believe I said something I didn't. That is a lie, in essence.Right now, a "mediocre LT" would be a HUGE step up from whatever option we have right now. Right now our options range from "terrible" (Polumbus) to "absolutely no way" (Rodgers, Bag, etc.), so I would get pretty darned excited about "mediocre" to back up Matthews.Assuming Long is wanting more money than he's worth, which is what this all started with, is the definition of mortgaging our future. You want us to give someone a bigger contract than they're worth just because we're thin at OT for a year. And Carimi did slid over to LT fairly often, when Jake was out last year. Jake missed a game or two and a half game one or two other times. Only position Carimi didn't play was center. And you're misunderstanding. I'm not saying some guy out there wouldn't be better than what we have, i'm saying they aren't better enough to bother caring if we get them or not. If they're asking for more money than their talent dictates, we shouldn't sign them, regardless of the circumstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Assuming Long is wanting more money than he's worth, which is what this all started with, is the definition of mortgaging our future. You want us to give someone a bigger contract than they're worth just because we're thin at OT for a year. And Carimi did slid over to LT fairly often, when Jake was out last year. Jake missed a game or two and a half game one or two other times. Only position Carimi didn't play was center. And you're misunderstanding. I'm not saying some guy out there wouldn't be better than what we have, i'm saying they aren't better enough to bother caring if we get them or not. If they're asking for more money than their talent dictates, we shouldn't sign them, regardless of the circumstance.I'm not calling for Long specifically. I never have.Not every single contract is a cap-buster.If the "circumstance" is having a completely incompetent, hopelessly horrible LT getting Matt Ryan injured? If they are even an adequate, unspectacular LT that can keep opposing team's best pass rushers off of Matt Ryan's blind side just most of the time, they they are worth whatever it takes to get them to SIGN ON THE LINE WHICH IS DOTTED!!!Shamelessly stolen from Alec Baldwin's best scene. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 How much of "the future" is a few hundred thousand in cap money worth, as opposed to a serious injury to Matt Ryan?If the injury occurs, how valuable will saving that few hundred thousand look in retrospect?Think about it. Even Gazoo said something negative about Polumbus.Gazoo.Said something slightly negative.About a Falcon.A FALCON!!!How bad does a Falcon have to be before Gazoo admits he is struggling a little?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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