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Not just run the ball, score TDs with our ground game. Short runs, long runs, gimmick runs, trick plays, whatever it takes. Just get in the end zone. Free, Tone, Tevin, Mooney, Hester, Julio, whoever.

Six of our last seven playoff teams were ranked 12th or better in rush TDs. In the last two years, however, we only scored 11 rushing TDs per season, which ranked 17th in 2014 and 21st in 2013. The good news is Shanny has had three teams that ranked twelfth or better in rushing TDs and he has said we are gonna run the ball.

Scoring rushing TDs does not guarantee a Lombardi, but it's no coincidence that eight of the last ten Super Bowl Champions ranked twelfth or better in rushing TDs. Those teams averaged more than 16 rushing TDs, which is one per game. GB is an anomaly but even they ran the ball in the playoffs, scoring four times, or once per game:

LAST TEN SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS - TOTAL RUSHING TDs - NFL RANKING

2014 - NE - 13 - 12th

2013 - SEA - 14 - 13th

2012 - BAL - 17 - 6th

2011 - NYG - 17 - 6th

2010 - GB - 11 - 18th

2009 - NO - 21 - 3rd

2008 - PIT - 16 - 11th

2007 - NYG - 15 - 7th

2006 - IND - 17 - 6th

2005 - PIT - 21 - 5th

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So as long as we don't rank first or second in rushing this year we should be on our way to a Super Bowl

Make it so

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Not just run the ball, score TDs with our ground game. Short runs, long runs, gimmick runs, trick plays, whatever it takes. Just get in the end zone. Free, Tone, Tevin, Mooney, Hester, Julio, whoever.

Six of our last seven playoff teams were ranked 12th or better in rush TDs. In the last two years, however, we only scored 11 rushing TDs per season, which ranked 17th in 2014 and 21st in 2013. The good news is Shanny has had three teams that ranked twelfth or better in rushing TDs and he has said we are gonna run the ball.

Scoring rushing TDs does not guarantee a Lombardi, but it's no coincidence that eight of the last ten Super Bowl Champions ranked twelfth or better in rushing TDs. Those teams averaged more than 16 rushing TDs, which is one per game. GB is an anomaly but even they ran the ball in the playoffs, scoring four times, or once per game:

LAST TEN SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS - TOTAL RUSHING TDs - NFL RANKING

2014 - NE - 13 - 12th

2013 - SEA - 14 - 13th

2012 - BAL - 17 - 6th

2011 - NYG - 17 - 6th

2010 - GB - 11 - 18th

2009 - NO - 21 - 3rd

2008 - PIT - 16 - 11th

2007 - NYG - 15 - 7th

2006 - IND - 17 - 6th

2005 - PIT - 21 - 5th

For the record, lets see where the same teams ranked in total PASSING TDs

2014 - NE - 34 - 5th

2013 - SEA - 27 - 10th

2012 - BAL - 22 - 18th

2011 - NYG - 29 - 6th

2010 - GB - 31 - 4th

2009 - NO - 34 - 1st

2008 - PIT - 19 - 18th

2007 - NYG - 23 - 14th

2006 - IND - 31 - 1st

2005 - PIT - 21 - 12th

So the teams that ranked higher in passing TDs won 5 of the last 10 SBs.

The teams that ranked higher in rushing TDs won 4 of the last 10.

One team (2011 Giants) finished the same in both.

So while your argument for why we need to score rushing TDs is somewhat flawed & the slight edge actually seems to go to teams who score through the air... it seems like it really makes little difference how you score, just as long as you're coming away with TDs & not FGs.

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For the record, lets see where the same teams ranked in total PASSING TDs

2014 - NE - 34 - 5th

2013 - SEA - 27 - 10th

2012 - BAL - 22 - 18th

2011 - NYG - 29 - 6th

2010 - GB - 31 - 4th

2009 - NO - 34 - 1st

2008 - PIT - 19 - 18th

2007 - NYG - 23 - 14th

2006 - IND - 31 - 1st

2005 - PIT - 21 - 12th

So the teams that ranked higher in passing TDs won 5 of the last 10 SBs.

The teams that ranked higher in rushing TDs won 4 of the last 10.

One team (2011 Giants) finished the same in both.

So while your argument for why we need to score rushing TDs is somewhat flawed & the slight edge actually seems to go to teams who score through the air... it seems like it really makes little difference how you score, just as long as you're coming away with TDs & not FGs.

We were 11th in passing TDs in 2013 and 2014.

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We were 11th in passing TDs in 2013 and 2014.

So? Plenty of teams that did well rushing the ball were actually awful teams, too.

In 2014 5 of the teams in the top 10 in rushing TDs didn't even make the playoffs

In 2013 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2012 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2011 5 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2010 6 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2009 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2008 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2007 1 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2006 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2005 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

Just finishing well in rushing TDs is not giving anyone a free pass to the SB. Heck, nearly 40% of the teams finishing in the top 10 in rushing TDs don't even make the playoffs.

So again, I don't think focusing too much on one side or the other is overly beneficial to the success of any football team.

We need TDs... period. Passing, rushing, D, and ST.

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Study of Super Bowl Champs shows dominance on ONE side of the ball is enough.

Love this from the study.

On defense, it appears that pressuring the quarterback and creating turnovers are more important than total points allowed.

Here is the link:

http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-09-05/super-bowl-2012-defense-wins-championships-49ers-stats-picks

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So? Plenty of teams that did well rushing the ball were actually awful teams, too.

In 2014 5 of the teams in the top 10 in rushing TDs didn't even make the playoffs

In 2013 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2012 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2011 5 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2010 6 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2009 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2008 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2007 1 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2006 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2005 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

Just finishing well in rushing TDs is not giving anyone a free pass to the SB. Heck, nearly 40% of the teams finishing in the top 10 in rushing TDs don't even make the playoffs.

So again, I don't think focusing too much on one side or the other is overly beneficial to the success of any football team.

We need TDs... period. Passing, rushing, D, and ST.

So more than 60% do? Oh. OK. Thanks.

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It's all about balance. You have to be equally capable of running for yards and TD's and passing for yardage and TD's in critical situations. You can't be strong in only one area. Defenses will figure out how to shut that down, and then you're done. We obviously have a long ways to go before we can boast of anything close to a balanced attack, but in the next couple of years, I believe we'll get there.

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So more than 60% do? Oh. OK. Thanks.

Yes, and then more often than not, they get knocked out before winning a SB. So AGAIN, scoring rushing TDs is not singularly more important than a number of other factors.

But since you are so hung up on making this a rushing vs. passing thing, allow me to present the teams who finished top 10 in passing TDs & how many missed the playoffs:

In 2014 4 of the top 10 missed the playoffs

In 2013 4 of the top 10 missed

In 2012 4 of the top 10 missed

In 2011 4 of the top 10 missed

In 2010 3 of the top 10 missed

In 2009 3 of the top 10 missed

In 2008 5 of the top 10 missed

In 2007 3 of the top 10 missed

In 2006 1 of the top 10 missed

In 2005 3 of the top 10 missed

That's 34% missing the playoffs (meaning 66% of the teams in the top 10 making the playoffs)

SOOOOO...

In actuality, teams finishing in the top 10 in PASSING TDs not only made the playoffs more frequently, but also won Super Bowls more frequently than teams finishing in the top 10 in RUSHING TDs.

Oh. Ok. Thanks.

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So? Plenty of teams that did well rushing the ball were actually awful teams, too.

In 2014 5 of the teams in the top 10 in rushing TDs didn't even make the playoffs

In 2013 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2012 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2011 5 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2010 6 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2009 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2008 4 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2007 1 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2006 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

In 2005 3 of the top 10 didn't make it

Just finishing well in rushing TDs is not giving anyone a free pass to the SB. Heck, nearly 40% of the teams finishing in the top 10 in rushing TDs don't even make the playoffs.

So again, I don't think focusing too much on one side or the other is overly beneficial to the success of any football team.

We need TDs... period. Passing, rushing, D, and ST.

Actually, you're both wrong. What we need is balance.

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