FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Not just run the ball, score TDs with our ground game. Short runs, long runs, gimmick runs, trick plays, whatever it takes. Just get in the end zone. Free, Tone, Tevin, Mooney, Hester, Julio, whoever.Six of our last seven playoff teams were ranked 12th or better in rush TDs. In the last two years, however, we only scored 11 rushing TDs per season, which ranked 17th in 2014 and 21st in 2013. The good news is Shanny has had three teams that ranked twelfth or better in rushing TDs and he has said we are gonna run the ball.Scoring rushing TDs does not guarantee a Lombardi, but it's no coincidence that eight of the last ten Super Bowl Champions ranked twelfth or better in rushing TDs. Those teams averaged more than 16 rushing TDs, which is one per game. GB is an anomaly but even they ran the ball in the playoffs, scoring four times, or once per game:LAST TEN SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS - TOTAL RUSHING TDs - NFL RANKING2014 - NE - 13 - 12th2013 - SEA - 14 - 13th2012 - BAL - 17 - 6th2011 - NYG - 17 - 6th2010 - GB - 11 - 18th2009 - NO - 21 - 3rd2008 - PIT - 16 - 11th2007 - NYG - 15 - 7th2006 - IND - 17 - 6th2005 - PIT - 21 - 5th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xskyx Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Co-signed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Won't get an argument from me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 So as long as we don't rank first or second in rushing this year we should be on our way to a Super BowlMake it so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falcon@Denmark Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 We all want to see this team run the ball better, than we have in the last few years. The run game is a QB's best friend and hopefully Shannahan can make it happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayOzOne Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 So as long as we don't rank first or second in rushing this year we should be on our way to a Super BowlMake it so Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 22, 2015 Author Share Posted July 22, 2015 The Aints have only won one Lombardi. Look at how many rushing TDs they had that year. Good Lawd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Desert_Falcon Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Having Freeman and Coleman is a step in the right direction for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnst Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 The proof is in our own record. Just look back a few short years ago when we had a running game. It was night and day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted July 22, 2015 Share Posted July 22, 2015 Not just run the ball, score TDs with our ground game. Short runs, long runs, gimmick runs, trick plays, whatever it takes. Just get in the end zone. Free, Tone, Tevin, Mooney, Hester, Julio, whoever.Six of our last seven playoff teams were ranked 12th or better in rush TDs. In the last two years, however, we only scored 11 rushing TDs per season, which ranked 17th in 2014 and 21st in 2013. The good news is Shanny has had three teams that ranked twelfth or better in rushing TDs and he has said we are gonna run the ball.Scoring rushing TDs does not guarantee a Lombardi, but it's no coincidence that eight of the last ten Super Bowl Champions ranked twelfth or better in rushing TDs. Those teams averaged more than 16 rushing TDs, which is one per game. GB is an anomaly but even they ran the ball in the playoffs, scoring four times, or once per game:LAST TEN SUPER BOWL CHAMPIONS - TOTAL RUSHING TDs - NFL RANKING2014 - NE - 13 - 12th2013 - SEA - 14 - 13th2012 - BAL - 17 - 6th2011 - NYG - 17 - 6th2010 - GB - 11 - 18th2009 - NO - 21 - 3rd2008 - PIT - 16 - 11th2007 - NYG - 15 - 7th2006 - IND - 17 - 6th2005 - PIT - 21 - 5thFor the record, lets see where the same teams ranked in total PASSING TDs2014 - NE - 34 - 5th2013 - SEA - 27 - 10th2012 - BAL - 22 - 18th2011 - NYG - 29 - 6th2010 - GB - 31 - 4th2009 - NO - 34 - 1st2008 - PIT - 19 - 18th2007 - NYG - 23 - 14th2006 - IND - 31 - 1st2005 - PIT - 21 - 12thSo the teams that ranked higher in passing TDs won 5 of the last 10 SBs.The teams that ranked higher in rushing TDs won 4 of the last 10.One team (2011 Giants) finished the same in both.So while your argument for why we need to score rushing TDs is somewhat flawed & the slight edge actually seems to go to teams who score through the air... it seems like it really makes little difference how you score, just as long as you're coming away with TDs & not FGs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 (edited) As k train said just said. Period. Still we need the running game to work. In the context of the Atlanta Falcons we simply need balance.I just saw this post of mine and vote to put it to sleep. Edited July 25, 2015 by Atlfanstckndenver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rollo lawson Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 A good running game opens up the pass game, i.e., play action. Remember 1998. Jamaal Anderson's running made Martin and Mathis look like Swann and Stallworth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 For the record, lets see where the same teams ranked in total PASSING TDs2014 - NE - 34 - 5th2013 - SEA - 27 - 10th2012 - BAL - 22 - 18th2011 - NYG - 29 - 6th2010 - GB - 31 - 4th2009 - NO - 34 - 1st2008 - PIT - 19 - 18th2007 - NYG - 23 - 14th2006 - IND - 31 - 1st2005 - PIT - 21 - 12thSo the teams that ranked higher in passing TDs won 5 of the last 10 SBs.The teams that ranked higher in rushing TDs won 4 of the last 10.One team (2011 Giants) finished the same in both.So while your argument for why we need to score rushing TDs is somewhat flawed & the slight edge actually seems to go to teams who score through the air... it seems like it really makes little difference how you score, just as long as you're coming away with TDs & not FGs.We were 11th in passing TDs in 2013 and 2014. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamPlayer1 Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Offensive success is a balanced attack. Keep the defense on its heels! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 We were 11th in passing TDs in 2013 and 2014.So? Plenty of teams that did well rushing the ball were actually awful teams, too.In 2014 5 of the teams in the top 10 in rushing TDs didn't even make the playoffsIn 2013 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2012 3 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2011 5 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2010 6 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2009 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2008 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2007 1 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2006 3 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2005 3 of the top 10 didn't make itJust finishing well in rushing TDs is not giving anyone a free pass to the SB. Heck, nearly 40% of the teams finishing in the top 10 in rushing TDs don't even make the playoffs. So again, I don't think focusing too much on one side or the other is overly beneficial to the success of any football team.We need TDs... period. Passing, rushing, D, and ST. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
high impact Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Study of Super Bowl Champs shows dominance on ONE side of the ball is enough. Love this from the study.On defense, it appears that pressuring the quarterback and creating turnovers are more important than total points allowed.Here is the link:http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2012-09-05/super-bowl-2012-defense-wins-championships-49ers-stats-picks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 So? Plenty of teams that did well rushing the ball were actually awful teams, too.In 2014 5 of the teams in the top 10 in rushing TDs didn't even make the playoffsIn 2013 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2012 3 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2011 5 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2010 6 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2009 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2008 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2007 1 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2006 3 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2005 3 of the top 10 didn't make itJust finishing well in rushing TDs is not giving anyone a free pass to the SB. Heck, nearly 40% of the teams finishing in the top 10 in rushing TDs don't even make the playoffs. So again, I don't think focusing too much on one side or the other is overly beneficial to the success of any football team.We need TDs... period. Passing, rushing, D, and ST.So more than 60% do? Oh. OK. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoriabird Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 So the title of the thread should be we need to run the ball more in the red zone right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PokerSteve Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 It's all about balance. You have to be equally capable of running for yards and TD's and passing for yardage and TD's in critical situations. You can't be strong in only one area. Defenses will figure out how to shut that down, and then you're done. We obviously have a long ways to go before we can boast of anything close to a balanced attack, but in the next couple of years, I believe we'll get there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 So more than 60% do? Oh. OK. Thanks.Yes, and then more often than not, they get knocked out before winning a SB. So AGAIN, scoring rushing TDs is not singularly more important than a number of other factors.But since you are so hung up on making this a rushing vs. passing thing, allow me to present the teams who finished top 10 in passing TDs & how many missed the playoffs:In 2014 4 of the top 10 missed the playoffsIn 2013 4 of the top 10 missedIn 2012 4 of the top 10 missedIn 2011 4 of the top 10 missedIn 2010 3 of the top 10 missedIn 2009 3 of the top 10 missedIn 2008 5 of the top 10 missedIn 2007 3 of the top 10 missedIn 2006 1 of the top 10 missedIn 2005 3 of the top 10 missedThat's 34% missing the playoffs (meaning 66% of the teams in the top 10 making the playoffs)SOOOOO...In actuality, teams finishing in the top 10 in PASSING TDs not only made the playoffs more frequently, but also won Super Bowls more frequently than teams finishing in the top 10 in RUSHING TDs.Oh. Ok. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 So? Plenty of teams that did well rushing the ball were actually awful teams, too.In 2014 5 of the teams in the top 10 in rushing TDs didn't even make the playoffsIn 2013 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2012 3 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2011 5 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2010 6 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2009 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2008 4 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2007 1 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2006 3 of the top 10 didn't make itIn 2005 3 of the top 10 didn't make itJust finishing well in rushing TDs is not giving anyone a free pass to the SB. Heck, nearly 40% of the teams finishing in the top 10 in rushing TDs don't even make the playoffs. So again, I don't think focusing too much on one side or the other is overly beneficial to the success of any football team.We need TDs... period. Passing, rushing, D, and ST.Actually, you're both wrong. What we need is balance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peoriabird Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 I see that you are messing with the Sasquatch again! LOL! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
k-train Posted July 23, 2015 Share Posted July 23, 2015 Actually, you're both wrong. What we need is balance.Might wanna go back & read what I've been saying this whole time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 So the title of the thread should be we need to run the ball more in the red zone right?Not necessarily. Five of those 50 yard Tone runs will work just as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted July 23, 2015 Author Share Posted July 23, 2015 Might wanna go back & read what I've been saying this whole time.You might wanna go back and read what I said in the OP:Scoring rushing TDs does not guarantee a Lombardi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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