streetenigma23 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/07/17/roddy-white-the-longer-falcons-wait-to-sign-julio-jones-the-more-it-will-cost/Falcons wide receiver Julio Jones is heading into the final year of his contract, something that’s led to intermittent discussion in the media about a possible extension this offseason.It reportedly hasn’t led to any discussionbetween Jones and the Falcons, although that hasn’t dampened the feeling that a deal could still be signed before the team starts training camp. Jones’s fellow wideout Roddy Whitesigned an extension with the team before camp last season and he advised the team to do the same with Jones.“If I was the G.M. I would get a deal done with Julio now,” White told Josina Anderson of ESPN. “I want to make sure he’s paid. That’s my guy. The more they wait, the more it’s going to cost them. It’s important that he feels comfortable.”Without knowing the specifics of what the two sides are thinking about an extension, it’s hard to know if waiting will cost the Falcons more money in the long run. With theDez Bryant and Demaryius Thomas contracts done, though, there’s a pretty good parameter in place for a contract for a premier receiver that’s unlikely to change all that much between now and the 2016 offseason. That could help move things along in Atlanta because there’s not much chance the Falcons will risk losing Jones on the open market. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I don't think we will lose him to the open market but I do think it's in bad taste if we take advantage of the fact he said publicly he wouldn't hold out. Not saying we are, but if he doesn't get something done before training camp, it may start to feel that way.It would set a precedence for other Falcon players to not be that selfless in the future and hold out on us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Makes sense. They get him signed now, it won't burn as bad. He goes out and has another 1500 yard season with double digit touchdowns he's gonna top Dez and Demaryius. I've heard people say Dez didn't deserve his money. That's hogwash. He has the most receiving TD's the last 3 years, plays through injury and is one of the most talented in the league. He definitely earned his Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Makes sense. They get him signed now, it won't burn as bad. He goes out and has another 1500 yard season with double digit touchdowns he's gonna top Dez and Demaryius. I've heard people say Dez didn't deserve his money. That's hogwash. He has the most receiving TD's the last 3 years, plays through injury and is one of the most talented in the league. He definitely earned hisDez may be an azzhole but he's talented and deserved every penny of that contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Dez may be an azzhole but he's talented and deserved every penny of that contract.sure did. Julio will be the same. Only thing that comes close to worrying me are the injuries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Julio will get what the market says he get and it will be very similar to what Dez and Thomas received - maybe a little more or a little less. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4dabirds Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'm sure Julio's agent and the Falcons are in talks. It's a big contract, and there is a lot of legal language that has to be gone through. My wife manages contracts for an IT company, and she can get tied up for a while on deals that seem on the surface to be cut and dry, but someone is always looking to find a way to push new language into the deal that may not be beneficial for both sides, so they research it and hash it out. And yes, her negotiations and efforts apply multi-million dollar contracts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nino11 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) I would sign him asap as well. I think the injury concerns are way overblown. He had one season ending injury it's not like we are talking about Sam Baker here. Last season didn't look like there was any lingering effects for him. Guys are acting like we are fixing to pay Norwood big money Edited July 17, 2015 by Nino11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I'm sure Julio's agent and the Falcons are in talks. It's a big contract, and there is a lot of legal language that has to be gone through. My wife manages contracts for an IT company, and she can get tied up for a while on deals that seem on the surface to be cut and dry, but someone is always looking to find a way to push new language into the deal that may not be beneficial for both sides, so they research it and hash it out. And yes, her negotiations and efforts apply multi-million dollar contracts.I agree, just because the public doesn't hear about it, doesn't exactly mean that it isn't taking place behind closed doors. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxatlanta Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Julio can definitely get more by waiting, but the injury history cuts both ways. He should get his 40mil guaranteed now, while he's healthy and coming off a great year. Seems like its best for both sides to get it done sooner than later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 sure did. Julio will be the same. Only thing that comes close to worrying me are the injuriesI try not to worry about things I cannot control Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I was thinking about this yesterday. So Dez and DT got their deals....and they're roughly equivalent. That leaves Julio and AJ Green as the next in line.Either of these dudes (or both) could presumably get a deal done with their FOs relatively quickly using the pre-existing Dez/DT deals as a model.However. If ONE of these WRs signs an extension, it opens a symbolic door for the other. As the last man standing, either Julio or AJG could conceivably decide that playing out the single year option for $10m could give them the opportunity to put another big year on the books. If they do that, they'd have a pretty strong argument to be given a contract BIGGER than the previously-established top of the market. Neither guy seems particularly driven by ego, but this is an opportunity for one of them to be paid like "the man." It carries downside risk of injury (a problem for both players) but the upside is a deal closer to Calvin than the Dez/DT level.TL;DR = We should probably just pay Julio tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I try not to worry about things I cannot controlThen you wouldn't be discussing his or any other players contract. Ooohhhh burn. But yeah, when it comes to wanting my favorite team to have the best on the field, his limbs worry me greatly lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Then you wouldn't be discussing his or any other players contract. Ooohhhh burn.But yeah, when it comes to wanting my favorite team to have the best on the field, his limbs worry me greatly lolExcuse me! I can discuss without being worried! (please don't go back in history and find a post where I said I was worried about something please. Let me have my moment.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Excuse me! I can discuss without being worried! (please don't go back in history and find a post where I said I was worried about something please. Let me have my moment.)lmao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quarterback Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 (edited) If anyone should know about being overpaid on his last contract it's Roddy White...I wish he'd just zip it!Julio Jones yearly average of his first four years:Games Played: 12.3Receptions: 69.5Yards: 1082.5TD's: 6.5Nice numbers for an elite #2 WR, or a lower tier #1, but not top 5 stats worthy of top 5 dollars. Now, if he can play one more full season (this would be only his second of five full season) this season and produce back-to-back great years then pay him! Edited July 17, 2015 by Quarterback Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Even if he doesn't show out completely this year, with the cap rising contracts will only follow suit. Get it done now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I was thinking about this yesterday. So Dez and DT got their deals....and they're roughly equivalent. That leaves Julio and AJ Green as the next in line.Either of these dudes (or both) could presumably get a deal done with their FOs relatively quickly using the pre-existing Dez/DT deals as a model.However. If ONE of these WRs signs an extension, it opens a symbolic door for the other. As the last man standing, either Julio or AJG could conceivably decide that playing out the single year option for $10m could give them the opportunity to put another big year on the books. If they do that, they'd have a pretty strong argument to be given a contract BIGGER than the previously-established top of the market. Neither guy seems particularly driven by ego, but this is an opportunity for one of them to be paid like "the man." It carries downside risk of injury (a problem for both players) but the upside is a deal closer to Calvin than the Dez/DT level.TL;DR = We should probably just pay Julio tomorrow. I think most agents will tell their players to go for the deal now - $42mm guaranteed NOW >>>>$10mm now and the hope you get more guaranteed a year from now (you could get injured or have a bad year). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Its definitely smarter for both sides to do it now. Julio's stock has never been higher and even with another similar season it won't go up that much, but if he gets hurt or has a down year, it will drop significantly. Mutually beneficial. I think it gets done in the next few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I think most agents will tell their players to go for the deal now - $42mm guaranteed NOW >>>>$10mm now and the hope you get more guaranteed a year from now (you could get injured or have a bad year).Maybe. But agents work for the players. And if either of those guys decided they wanted to be the highest (or second highest) paid dude, thats something that could happen. You COULD get injured or have a bad year. Or you could have a massive year and command more. Can't tell which is preferable unless you know how each individual views risk. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Seeing that Julio and Roddy are close like brothers I'm sure he has some insight on what Julio is thinking. That being said, it sounds like Julio has expressed that he is ready to sign. Let's get this done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I don't think we will lose him to the open market but I do think it's in bad taste if we take advantage of the fact he said publicly he wouldn't hold out. Not saying we are, but if he doesn't get something done before training camp, it may start to feel that way.It would set a precedence for other Falcon players to not be that selfless in the future and hold out on us.If we are stupid enough to drag tis thing out we deserve to lose him.But I think sanity will prevail I believe Julio's deal will surpass Des and Demariyus's deals we'll get it soughted.The #ers are there the only issue is the framework they'll nut that out and I'm expecting somewhere o during TC it'll get done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I was thinking about this yesterday. So Dez and DT got their deals....and they're roughly equivalent. That leaves Julio and AJ Green as the next in line.Either of these dudes (or both) could presumably get a deal done with their FOs relatively quickly using the pre-existing Dez/DT deals as a model.However. If ONE of these WRs signs an extension, it opens a symbolic door for the other. As the last man standing, either Julio or AJG could conceivably decide that playing out the single year option for $10m could give them the opportunity to put another big year on the books. If they do that, they'd have a pretty strong argument to be given a contract BIGGER than the previously-established top of the market. Neither guy seems particularly driven by ego, but this is an opportunity for one of them to be paid like "the man." It carries downside risk of injury (a problem for both players) but the upside is a deal closer to Calvin than the Dez/DT level.TL;DR = We should probably just pay Julio tomorrow.The only way a scenario like that plays out in my mind is if a player is unhappy signs the tag and plays the season has a big season say then his contract #ers go through the roof and teams will definitely be paying overs as in effect his agent will be playing each team off against one another.I don't see that with #11 I think he probably get a little more than Dez and DT and everyones happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wleggett Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 If we are stupid enough to drag tis thing out we deserve to lose him.But I think sanity will prevail I believe Julio's deal will surpass Des and Demariyus's deals we'll get it soughted.The #ers are there the only issue is the framework they'll nut that out and I'm expecting somewhere o during TC it'll get done.I wouldn't be opposed to slightly higher than Dez's deal. They're "risks" for different reasons and personally I'd rather have the injury risk than off the field issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwifalcon Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 I wouldn't be opposed to slightly higher than Dez's deal. They're "risks" for different reasons and personally I'd rather have the injury risk than off the field issues.Yeah man me too.Wording will be the key in #11's deal and with that will protect us against any significant compensation if there is this long term injury history #11 is supposed to have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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