Guest facelessman07 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 go back a page i say he has more potential than Ryan, i just don't think he's reached it yet nor do i think he is eliteHe's already surpassed Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBateser Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 He's already surpassed Ryanand that's where we disagree Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest facelessman07 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 and that's where we disagreeThe stat sheet, game day performances, playoff record, and analysts are all in agreementThere's nothing wrong with admitting that there's a better QB in the league Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBateser Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 The stat sheet, game day performances, playoff record, and analysts are all in agreementThere's nothing wrong with admitting that there's a better QB in the leagueNever said their is, but like DB#11 has said is another thread, different scenarios Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoprime II Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I happen to think Ryan -is- elite. There have been many times in the past when we could only hope we could get a QB like Ryan. To finally have one is terrific. But some here, I dunno...I reckon Ryan would have to leave to be appreciated around here...by being missed. The bad news on our team is the O line. I think the ZBS is a desperate move to turn some of our scrub linemen into NFL-quality players. And I am afraid our pass blocking will not get better, and Ryan will still not be able to let the deep routes develop. Finally, the LBs. Not feeling the love there. Reed is good, but he does not have Watt in front of him anymore. Durant gets a lot of tackles, but what we need are big plays...TO's, pressures, sacks. Worrilow is in the same category as Durant. For our Falcons to have a successful season? Our draftees from the last three drafts have to step up...our FAs from the last two seasons have to play up to their contracts...our O line has to be much improved in all areas...and we have to avoid injuries. Not sure that can all happen at once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
egoprime II Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Tuggle'2, my philosophy is...if the majority of folks here, like me or approve of my posting? Then I must be doing something wrong...:P I have -very- strong views about what has been wrong with this Falcons franchise, and I have strong views on how to fix it. KOG, MSalmon, Romfal, and FFS1970 are among the folks here that I agree with almost all the time. We seem to be thinking along the same lines. My biggest Falcons concern is, our FO looks to be wasting Ryan's career. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Tuggle'2, my philosophy is...if the majority of folks here, like me or approve of my posting? Then I must be doing something wrong... I have -very- strong views about what has been wrong with this Falcons franchise, and I have strong views on how to fix it. KOG, MSalmon, Romfal, and FFS1970 are among the folks here that I agree with almost all the time. We seem to be thinking along the same lines. My biggest Falcons concern is, our FO looks to be wasting Ryan's career.Naw, you're great man. A common misconception around here is people are "picked on" or "silenced" due to their opinion on the team. That is far from the truth. People can hate the team and everyone in it all they want and voice their displeasure all they want. It is actually welcomed as it sparks conversation. That BS is just a cop out people use when trying to steer blame away from themselves and the real reason why an Admin had to step in. Everyone knows what they can and cannot do, we all should have been taught it at an early age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MasterBateser Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Tuggle'2, my philosophy is...if the majority of folks here, like me or approve of my posting? Then I must be doing something wrong... I have -very- strong views about what has been wrong with this Falcons franchise, and I have strong views on how to fix it. KOG, MSalmon, Romfal, and FFS1970 are among the folks here that I agree with almost all the time. We seem to be thinking along the same lines. My biggest Falcons concern is, our FO looks to be wasting Ryan's career.great point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Stopped reading after that first few lines. I respect Tuggle too much not to, and even if I didn't like him, I'd probably still stop reading there. Starting off a post with something like that just proves that nothing you have to say would be worth reading anyway. Grow up kid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dem Birds Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Haha, naw.. I would never and have never banned anyone for saying they don't like me. I can certainly handle it. lolHe cursed you though! Finish him! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goal2Go Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 So what has Luck done to be considered to be Elite?I stopped reading with the luck is elite sentence.. But i am sure the rest was very well thought out. welcome back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Unlike the rest I don't care anything about your dislike for any mod(s). Your threads still suck. Welcome back Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Mo Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 You do stuff like this and then ***** at people getting mad at you..lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gazoo Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I don't know of many 8 year-olds who have that much access to alchohol.Bath salts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Statick Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I stopped reading after "I digress"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mega Flare Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Are people still confusing "and" with "an"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Black Francis Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Andrew Luck is not elite. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Luck is elite but not Manning???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Luck is elite but not Manning????Nah man I just can't bring myself to say Manning is elite. Sure he can pad the stats but he just can't get it done when it matters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willy Mo Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Nah man I just can't bring myself to say Manning is elite. Sure he can pad the stats but he just can't get it done when it mattersAndrew Lucks numbers in the AFCCG? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Nah man I just can't bring myself to say Manning is elite. Sure he can pad the stats but he just can't get it done when it mattersSB appearances-Manning: 2Luck: 0SB wins-Manning: 1Luck: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 SB appearances-Manning: 2Luck: 0SB wins-Manning: 1Luck: 0I'm talking from now to the future. Of course career wise Manning is superior but as of now give me Luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird#11 Posted July 14, 2015 Author Share Posted July 14, 2015 Andrew Lucks numbers in the AFCCG? Manning' numbers in the Divisional round against IND? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 I'm talking from now to the future. Of course career wise Manning is superior but as of now give me Luck.In recent history Manning was in the SB two years ago. Luck never has been. If you're talking future you shouldn't call him elite, you should say you're projecting him to be elite one day.And by your criteria shouldn't Wilson be Elite? He's been in two SB's and won one in recent history. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted July 14, 2015 Share Posted July 14, 2015 Nah man I just can't bring myself to say Manning is elite. Sure he can pad the stats but he just can't get it done when it mattersI think the definition varies from person to person. I believe an elite player is any guy who can go to another team and automatically make that team a contender. By my definition Brady and Manning are the only elite QBs in the game. Manning goes above Brady cause the Pats going 11-5 without him shows it's more the system then the QB but there's no denying his greatness. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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