Sheldon Cooper Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Coleman is considered "potential boom pick" in recent write up on home page. One noticable difference and advantage Coleman has over Freeman is his ability to elude and separate in the open field. Freeman is more easily caught or simply collides with tacklers. More than that though is his balance as he is more of a glider while Freeman is more of a plodder. Coleman could fare best in short yardage and goal line with the best size and perhaps vision. Antone Smith cannot be forgotten. He should get snaps and pitch in. Freeman will hopefully develop further as a pass threat. Coleman though has me expecting a booming rookie season. He has #1 talent. Freeman is a true #2, while Smith is the perfect #3 complete with added bonus of stand out ST's ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Man, I am out of likes, but want you to know I'm with you on your post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 The only draft pick I'm not excited about is our 7th rounders and i've never been excited nor ever will be excited for a 7th rounder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GleasonForever! Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I see what you're saying but Freeman ran pretty well last season even with the poor Oline. That run in the Saints game for a TD, that catch in the dome on a wheel route was beautiful. Don't count him out. Freeman was the lead running back on the National Champion FSU team. All starting lineman got drafted except for Matias(UDFA). Freeman had a good year behind that line and they ran zone schemes as well. Both will be 1a and b to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2512276-which-surprise-nfl-running-backs-will-top-the-1000-yard-mark-in-2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 Coleman is further credited with running behind a poor OL for 2000 yds. Coleman will be aided as a rookie by pro bowl QB, top OC, proven passing game, stable of recieving targets enhanced by Hankerson, Hardy, Tamme, and Moeaki, as well as a potentially vastly improved defense. He wont have to salt away games late as a balanced attack will make him and the passing game equally more viable and potent. The one thing I do expect with Tevin and Devonta is even better success in Kyles scheme than West and Crowell enjoyed as rookies behind far inferior Hoyer, and 23rd ranked defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Coleman is further credited with running behind a poor OL for 2000 yds. Coleman will be aided as a rookie by pro bowl QB, top OC, proven passing game, stable of recieving targets enhanced by Hankerson, Hardy, Tamme, and Moeaki, as well as a potentially vastly improved defense. He wont have to salt away games late as a balanced attack will make him and the passing game equally more viable and potent. The one thing I do expect with Tevin and Devonta is even better success in Kyles scheme than West and Crowell enjoyed as rookies behind far inferior Hoyer, and 23rd ranked defense.It was a BAD ZBS Offensive Line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1989Fan Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Freeman is a boss. People are just more on Coleman because he is a rook, though a good one. Id roles were reversed threads would be pro freeman for the future back. Dont dismiss Freeman keeping the lead role. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Freeman is a boss. People are just more on Coleman because he is a rook, though a good one. Id roles were reversed threads would be pro freeman for the future back. Dont dismiss Freeman keeping the lead role.Not true at all. I'm more on Coleman because I like him better overall...I honestly believe he will do very well. Never thought that about Freeman...not even a little. Thought of him more as a serviceable back-up from day one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfan4life3 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 +100 Knight of God. Watching Tevin Coleman's college film is what has me excited about him. He has top 5 NFL back potential in my opinion. Can't wait to see what he's got this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 +100 Knight of God. Watching Tevin Coleman's college film is what has me excited about him. He has top 5 NFL back potential in my opinion. Can't wait to see what he's got this year.Some are mistaking Coleman as a speed back which is understating his talent. Kid is going to be awesome. He's listed at 6'1" 210lbs, but he is said to be 212 now and getting on up to 215 in the weight room. Plus that "does he have patience" nonsense is crazy. He played for a ZBS scheme when he got 2000yds...which was why he was drafted. Also behind a BAD line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest King Jigsaw Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Some are mistaking Coleman as a speed back which is understating his talent. Kid is going to be awesome. He's listed at 6'1" 210lbs, but he is said to be 212 now and getting on up to 215 in the weight room. Plus that "does he have patience" nonsense is crazy. He played for a ZBS scheme when he got 2000yds...which was why he was drafted. Also behind a BAD line.Not 210.. Not 212.. But 215!! Woah, nelly! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR Falcon Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Hopefully he can learn our play book quickly, and can put it together on the field. If so like many of us think, he could possibly run for over 1200 yd with splitting time with the other RB's , which is a great benefit to him and the team, not to wear him down. When we get into the playoffs let him run wild. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Coleman is considered "potential boom pick" in recent write up on home page. One noticable difference and advantage Coleman has over Freeman is his ability to elude and separate in the open field. Freeman is more easily caught or simply collides with tacklers. More than that though is his balance as he is more of a glider while Freeman is more of a plodder. Coleman could fare best in short yardage and goal line with the best size and perhaps vision. Antone Smith cannot be forgotten. He should get snaps and pitch in. Freeman will hopefully develop further as a pass threat. Coleman though has me expecting a booming rookie season. He has #1 talent. Freeman is a true #2, while Smith is the perfect #3 complete with added bonus of stand out ST's ability.I'd argue with some of this. Coleman certainly has the ability to separate in a straight line in the open field. He's a potential seam buster who can turn daylight into huge plays. But he's not particularly elusive in the open field and doesnt have the functional lateral agility that Freeman does. He's a high-cut upright strider who could struggle with arm tackles at the next level.If Coleman changes his game and develops, he could be a Demarco Murray type. Until he does that, he's more likely to be a "Chris Johnson" type who subsists completely on long runs with a lot of 0/negative gainers in between them. I think Freeman projects very well as a Frank Gore type who gets by on vision and lateral agility. In an ideal world, they'll both develop into highly productive runners. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GTFalcon25 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Not 210.. Not 212.. But 215!! Woah, nelly!Oh good. I'm not the only one who found that funny. The kid could eat a big lunch and put on 2 lbs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Some are mistaking Coleman as a speed back which is understating his talent. Kid is going to be awesome. He's listed at 6'1" 210lbs, but he is said to be 212 now and getting on up to 215 in the weight room. Plus that "does he have patience" nonsense is crazy. He played for a ZBS scheme when he got 2000yds...which was why he was drafted. Also behind a BAD line.He's been a VERY divisive back all off season. There are guys that love him and guys that don't see it at all. I see both sides but some guys that are really great at breaking things down are pretty iffy on Coleman so it gives me pause. I'm actively cheering for me to be wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 Freeman and him will be a good one two punch.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOYLE Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 It is good to see some guys coming around to the realization of what we have in Coleman.I was overjoyed that we got him. He was my favorite back in this draft and I would say thelast few drafts as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I'd argue with some of this. Coleman certainly has the ability to separate in a straight line in the open field. He's a potential seam buster who can turn daylight into huge plays. But he's not particularly elusive in the open field and doesnt have the functional lateral agility that Freeman does. He's a high-cut upright strider who could struggle with arm tackles at the next level.If Coleman changes his game and develops, he could be a Demarco Murray type. Until he does that, he's more likely to be a "Chris Johnson" type who subsists completely on long runs with a lot of 0/negative gainers in between them. I think Freeman projects very well as a Frank Gore type who gets by on vision and lateral agility. In an ideal world, they'll both develop into highly productive runners. He's been a VERY divisive back all off season. There are guys that love him and guys that don't see it at all. I see both sides but some guys that are really great at breaking things down are pretty iffy on Coleman so it gives me pause. I'm actively cheering for me to be wrong. That's just it. He's known MOSTLY for being effective at breaking arm tackles and beating people in the open field...This is how he broke 2000yds behind a VERY poor OL...in the ZBS... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 That's just it. He's known MOSTLY for being effective at breaking arm tackles and beating people in the open field...This is how he broke 2000yds behind a VERY poor OL...in the ZBS...you dnt have to be a very good line if your using a zbs.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 That's just it. He's known MOSTLY for being effective at breaking arm tackles and beating people in the open field...This is how he broke 2000yds behind a VERY poor OL...in the ZBS...I don't think this is true, dude. I appreciate his production....it's outrageous. But the majority of evals you'll find mention his ability to beat guys from a speed standpoint, but not a elusiveness standpoint. And most people mention his narrow base/difficulty running through contact.He's not making people miss the way that a Lesean McCoy does. And he's not bowling people over the way that a Marshawn Lynch will do. That recipe can absolutely work for people. It worked for Chris Johnson. It definitely works for Jamaal Charles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I don't think this is true, dude. I appreciate his production....it's outrageous. But the majority of evals you'll find mention his ability to beat guys from a speed standpoint, but not a elusiveness standpoint. And most people mention his narrow base/difficulty running through contact.He's not making people miss the way that a Lesean McCoy does. And he's not bowling people over the way that a Marshawn Lynch will do. That recipe can absolutely work for people. It worked for Chris Johnson. It definitely works for Jamaal Charles. Okay man. Trying to tell ya...lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 I don't think this is true, dude. I appreciate his production....it's outrageous. But the majority of evals you'll find mention his ability to beat guys from a speed standpoint, but not a elusiveness standpoint. And most people mention his narrow base/difficulty running through contact.He's not making people miss the way that a Lesean McCoy does. And he's not bowling people over the way that a Marshawn Lynch will do. That recipe can absolutely work for people. It worked for Chris Johnson. It definitely works for Jamaal Charles.exactly, he uses his speed to beat a guy to the corner or a spot to get the angle.His vision is shaky at times and is compared to darran McFadden that he does go down with the first hit.. I like him but i dnt see him as a #1 RIGHT NOW.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 you dnt have to be a very good line if your using a zbs..So a bad ZBS line should tell you something. It was TERRIBLE!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted July 8, 2015 Share Posted July 8, 2015 exactly, he uses his speed to beat a guy to the corner or a spot to get the angle.His vision is shaky at times and is compared to darran McFadden that he does go down with the first hit..I like him but i dnt see him as a #1 RIGHT NOW..LOL...so you don't think he beats arm tackles??? LOL!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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