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1st round: Bobby Portis PF Arkansas

He's not my ideal pick (I'd really like one of the Wisconsin boys or a trade up for Cauley-Stein) but he seems to be the way we're trending. Supposed to have excellent wing defender potential and has a well rounded offensive game although not necessarily a 3 shooter. He's probably the eventual replacement to Sap.

Hm: Trey Lyles Kentucky

2nd round

50: Andrew Harrison PG Kentucky (Will take Dennis spot after Dennis takes Teague's spot.)

59: Random international big (Nikola Milutinov or Mouhammadou Jaiteh)

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Jerian Grant in the 1st....And some random big guy with potential in the 2nd. Grant is going to be a beast and can hit big shots..And he is 6'5. BRING HIM HOME

Seems like a smart guy who can bring versatility and length off the bench and can contribute ASAP.

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1st round: Bobby Portis PF Arkansas

He's not my ideal pick (I'd really like one of the Wisconsin boys or a trade up for Cauley-Stein) but he seems to be the way we're trending. Supposed to have excellent wing defender potential and has a well rounded offensive game although not necessarily a 3 shooter. He's probably the eventual replacement to Sap.

Hm: Trey Lyles Kentucky

2nd round

50: Andrew Harrison PG Kentucky

59: Random international big guy (Nikola Milutinov or Mouhammadou Jaiteh)

This was my 2nd choice

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I haven't decided on my number one guy because I think we need a wing, and there really aren't any, but I have made my mind up on the second rounders.

Trade them both for Montrezl Harrell. He will be the next Millsap. But better defensively because he has a freakish 7'5" wingspan. He pretty much does it all, except shoot. Which was Millsap before he came to Atlanta.

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Oubre stats

TEAM: KANSAS, FRESHMAN

PHYSICALS POSITIONS RANKINGS SALARY MISC

H: 6' 7"

W: 203 lbs

Bday: 12/09/1995

(19 Years Old)

Current: SF

NBA: SF

Possible: SF

Pick: 15 in 2015 Mock Draft

Rank 16 in Top 100 Prospects

Rank 8 in NCAA Freshmen

Rank 3 in 2015 Small Forwards

RSCI: 8

Agent: Bill Duffy

High School: Findlay

Hometown: Richmond, TX

Predraft Measurements

Year Source Height w/o Shoes Height w/shoes Weight Wingspan Standing Reach Body Fat No Step Vert Max Vert

2015 NBA Draft Combine 6' 5.75" 6' 6.75" 203 7' 2.25" 8' 6.5" 5.7 34.5 37.0

2014 Nike Skills Academy NA 6' 7" 199 7' 1.5" NA NA NA NA

2014 Hoop Summit NA 6' 6.5" 204 7' 2" 8' 8" NA NA NA

2013 USA Basketball NA 6' 7" 197 7' 1" 8' 7" NA NA NA

2013 LeBron James Camp NA 6' 7" 190 7' 1" NA NA NA NA

2013 Kevin Durant Camp NA 6' 7" 190 7' 1" NA NA NA NA

Basic Per Game Statistics - Comprehensive Stats - Statistical Top 25s

Year League Name GP Min Pts FG FGA FG% 2Pt 2PtA 2P% 3Pt 3PtA 3P% FTM FTA FT% Off Def TOT Asts Stls Blks TOs PFs

2014/15 NCAA Kelly Oubre 36 21.0 9.3 3.1 6.9 44.4 2.1 4.3 49.7 0.9 2.6 35.8 2.2 3.1 71.8 1.1 3.8 5.0 0.8 1.1 0.4 1.2 2.0

From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3dr0EuhqQ

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You think Oubre can come in and start right away?

For this team. 99% chance no lol. But that's probably true for all of them.

I dont think bud would start a rookie, and there's probably not a guy at 15 who could start on a number one seed anyway.

But I do think oubre has elite defensive potential. Could be a great 3 and D guy with some hops. He even has the effed up 3 point stance that Carroll has lol

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For size reference and how freakish oubre is, Thabo is 6'7" 207 with a 7'2" wingspan. The exact same as oubre, and we all know how much those arms help Thabo.

I think oubre becomes Thabo from Okc who shot 35%+, but oubre is far more athletic.

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Bobby Portis, PF, Arkansas at #15 for me.

A 20 year old PF who is 6'11"with a 7'2" wingspan and 9'0.5" standing reach is intriguing. Portis' style of play would also be a great fit for the Hawks. He has a good skill set that includes an already developed post-game and midrange shooting ability. He brings a lot of energy on the court too. He's not necessarily a top rebounder nor a rim protector but I think that his length and energy alone can help the Hawks defensively and along the boards. He reminds me of Kevin Garnett.

Some 2nd round guys I like include:

Quinn Cook, PG/SG, Duke (Leadership qualities and instant offense off the bench)

Jonathan Holmes, PF/SF, Texas (Defensive versatility and decent scorer)

J.P. Tokoto, SG/SF, North Carolina (Instincts and athleticism)

Anthony Brown, SF, Stanford (3 and D guy, reminds me of DeMar DeRozan)

Tyler Harvey, SG, Eastern Washington (instant offense off the bench)

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I like Bobby Portis, but I really don't understand the extreme popularity he has with the media.

The hawks just drafted and traded away a PF/C guy who hustled, had a decent midrange shot, a post game, and played good defense. Not to mention Payne was much better at blocking shots and rebounding.

Why would they turn around a year later and draft an incredibly similar player in the exact same draft slot as the guy they just asked for a mulligan on?

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For this team. 99% chance no lol. But that's probably true for all of them.

I dont think bud would start a rookie, and there's probably not a guy at 15 who could start on a number one seed anyway.

But I do think oubre has elite defensive potential. Could be a great 3 and D guy with some hops. He even has the effed up 3 point stance that Carroll has lol

He might even make it to his first offseason before we trade him :ninja:

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I like Bobby Portis, but I really don't understand the extreme popularity he has with the media.

The hawks just drafted and traded away a PF/C guy who hustled, had a decent midrange shot, a post game, and played good defense. Not to mention Payne was much better at blocking shots and rebounding.

Why would they turn around a year later and draft an incredibly similar player in the exact same draft slot as the guy they just asked for a mulligan on?

I had a similar thought to yours, WOR.

Why would the Hawks draft a guy similar to the guy who they drafted at #15 last year and then traded away? Heck, I still want to know why the Hawks gave up on Payne so early even if he was already 23.

Anyways, I think that the Hawks initially drafted Payne with the idea that he would be either Pero's eventual replacement or in case they were to either trade Millsap or not re-sign him after this year.

This year, both Millsap and Pero are free agents and we no longer have Payne so I think there is a spot for a PF.

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I had a similar thought to yours, WOR.

Why would the Hawks draft a guy similar to the guy who they drafted at #15 last year and then traded away? Heck, I still want to know why the Hawks gave up on Payne so early even if he was already 23.

Anyways, I think that the Hawks initially drafted Payne with the idea that he would be either Pero's eventual replacement or in case they were to either trade Millsap or not re-sign him after this year.

This year, both Millsap and Pero are free agents and we no longer have Payne so I think there is a spot for a PF.

I agree with what you're saying but if they were truly worried about losing Millsap and antic they would have kept Payne around at least as a big body. Why dump a "veteran" for a rookie if you know you're about to have a dire need for big men?

I just don't think Bud thinks about big men the way the rest of us do. So we will see.

It's also interesting that the very first thing Bud and Wilcox did was say "screw your draft pick ferry".

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I agree with what you're saying but if they were truly worried about losing Millsap and antic they would have kept Payne around at least as a big body. Why dump a "veteran" for a rookie if you know you're about to have a dire need for big men?

I just don't think Bud thinks about big men the way the rest of us do. So we will see.

It's also interesting that the very first thing Bud and Wilcox did was say "screw your draft pick ferry".

The part in bold, I really do wonder about that myself LOL!

Right now, who knows what the Hawks' FO is planning on doing Thursday and when July 1st gets here.

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Just curious WOR but why do you think Payne is a much better rebounder and shot blocker than Portis? Portis averaged 8.9 RPG this year as a sophomore...the most Payne ever averaged in his 4 years as Mich State was 7.6 as a Junior. Also in Payne's best year he averaged 1.3 BPG (Junior year). Portis averaged 1.4 BPG as a Freshman and 1.6 BPG as a Sophomore.

I think Portis is a superior prospect to Payne. Taller, more skilled offensively, better rebounder, shot blocker and 4 years younger. Payne has a low bball IQ...I heard he had trouble learning Bud's system which was another reason he couldn't get on the court.

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