WOR Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Draft is a few days away. Pick ONE first rounder and ONE second rounder and explain why you want them. Design a trade if you want to make it interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBurdz155 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Jerian Grant in the 1st....And some random big guy with potential in the 2nd. Grant is going to be a beast and can hit big shots..And he is 6'5. BRING HIM HOME Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF89 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Only one? 1st round: Bobby Portis PF ArkansasHe's not my ideal pick (I'd really like one of the Wisconsin boys or a trade up for Cauley-Stein) but he seems to be the way we're trending. Supposed to have excellent wing defender potential and has a well rounded offensive game although not necessarily a 3 shooter. He's probably the eventual replacement to Sap.Hm: Trey Lyles Kentucky2nd round50: Andrew Harrison PG Kentucky (Will take Dennis spot after Dennis takes Teague's spot.)59: Random international big (Nikola Milutinov or Mouhammadou Jaiteh) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBurdz155 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Jerian Grant in the 1st....And some random big guy with potential in the 2nd. Grant is going to be a beast and can hit big shots..And he is 6'5. BRING HIM HOMESeems like a smart guy who can bring versatility and length off the bench and can contribute ASAP. Only one? 1st round: Bobby Portis PF ArkansasHe's not my ideal pick (I'd really like one of the Wisconsin boys or a trade up for Cauley-Stein) but he seems to be the way we're trending. Supposed to have excellent wing defender potential and has a well rounded offensive game although not necessarily a 3 shooter. He's probably the eventual replacement to Sap.Hm: Trey Lyles Kentucky2nd round50: Andrew Harrison PG Kentucky59: Random international big guy (Nikola Milutinov or Mouhammadou Jaiteh)This was my 2nd choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF89 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 ONE second rounder and explain why you want them.We've got TWO second picks btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 22, 2015 Author Share Posted June 22, 2015 We've got TWO second picks btwOh I know. But as you can see people are struggling to come up with one, so I didn't want to make it overly difficult lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SavvyFalcon89 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I think Dekker is a good pick at 15 if he is there. He is indeed a Jack of all trades master of none type player, but in a system like ours, he could do well. Portis Wouldn't be a bad pick here either. I'm kinda on the fence about Oubre. We trading second round picks lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tweenthehedges Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 At 15 gimmie Bobby Portis6-11 240 can shoot and defend.. PF but can play the 5 roleSecond Robert upshaw7-0 250 Shot just over 50% from the field Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 I haven't decided on my number one guy because I think we need a wing, and there really aren't any, but I have made my mind up on the second rounders. Trade them both for Montrezl Harrell. He will be the next Millsap. But better defensively because he has a freakish 7'5" wingspan. He pretty much does it all, except shoot. Which was Millsap before he came to Atlanta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 Yeah give me oubre and Harrell. Then go get someone like Robin Lopez. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 Defensive lineup-TeagueOubreThaboHorfordLopezYeah go ahead and try to kill us on the glass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBurdz155 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Defensive lineup-TeagueOubreThaboHorfordLopezYeah go ahead and try to kill us on the glass.You think Oubre can come in and start right away? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DurtyBurdz155 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Oubre is another guy I like. Lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I'm liking Portis at 15 I'm not to enthused with any of the 3's outside of Winslow. I like Harrell in the second but I think he goes late 1st. I like Powell out of UCLA as a 2. I'm hoping we go center with the other 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blkbigdog35 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Oubre statsTEAM: KANSAS, FRESHMANPHYSICALS POSITIONS RANKINGS SALARY MISCH: 6' 7"W: 203 lbsBday: 12/09/1995(19 Years Old)Current: SFNBA: SFPossible: SFPick: 15 in 2015 Mock DraftRank 16 in Top 100 ProspectsRank 8 in NCAA FreshmenRank 3 in 2015 Small ForwardsRSCI: 8Agent: Bill DuffyHigh School: FindlayHometown: Richmond, TXPredraft MeasurementsYear Source Height w/o Shoes Height w/shoes Weight Wingspan Standing Reach Body Fat No Step Vert Max Vert2015 NBA Draft Combine 6' 5.75" 6' 6.75" 203 7' 2.25" 8' 6.5" 5.7 34.5 37.02014 Nike Skills Academy NA 6' 7" 199 7' 1.5" NA NA NA NA2014 Hoop Summit NA 6' 6.5" 204 7' 2" 8' 8" NA NA NA2013 USA Basketball NA 6' 7" 197 7' 1" 8' 7" NA NA NA2013 LeBron James Camp NA 6' 7" 190 7' 1" NA NA NA NA2013 Kevin Durant Camp NA 6' 7" 190 7' 1" NA NA NA NABasic Per Game Statistics - Comprehensive Stats - Statistical Top 25sYear League Name GP Min Pts FG FGA FG% 2Pt 2PtA 2P% 3Pt 3PtA 3P% FTM FTA FT% Off Def TOT Asts Stls Blks TOs PFs2014/15 NCAA Kelly Oubre 36 21.0 9.3 3.1 6.9 44.4 2.1 4.3 49.7 0.9 2.6 35.8 2.2 3.1 71.8 1.1 3.8 5.0 0.8 1.1 0.4 1.2 2.0From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com/#ixzz3dr0EuhqQhttp://www.draftexpress.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 You think Oubre can come in and start right away?For this team. 99% chance no lol. But that's probably true for all of them. I dont think bud would start a rookie, and there's probably not a guy at 15 who could start on a number one seed anyway. But I do think oubre has elite defensive potential. Could be a great 3 and D guy with some hops. He even has the effed up 3 point stance that Carroll has lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 For size reference and how freakish oubre is, Thabo is 6'7" 207 with a 7'2" wingspan. The exact same as oubre, and we all know how much those arms help Thabo. I think oubre becomes Thabo from Okc who shot 35%+, but oubre is far more athletic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTann Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Bobby Portis, PF, Arkansas at #15 for me.A 20 year old PF who is 6'11"with a 7'2" wingspan and 9'0.5" standing reach is intriguing. Portis' style of play would also be a great fit for the Hawks. He has a good skill set that includes an already developed post-game and midrange shooting ability. He brings a lot of energy on the court too. He's not necessarily a top rebounder nor a rim protector but I think that his length and energy alone can help the Hawks defensively and along the boards. He reminds me of Kevin Garnett. Some 2nd round guys I like include:Quinn Cook, PG/SG, Duke (Leadership qualities and instant offense off the bench)Jonathan Holmes, PF/SF, Texas (Defensive versatility and decent scorer)J.P. Tokoto, SG/SF, North Carolina (Instincts and athleticism)Anthony Brown, SF, Stanford (3 and D guy, reminds me of DeMar DeRozan) Tyler Harvey, SG, Eastern Washington (instant offense off the bench) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEIST Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Jerian Grant. Listed as a PG but he's 6'5 200 pounds with nearly a 6'8 wingspan. Good BBIQ/athletics. Can create his own shot. Would be a great scoring option off the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 I like Bobby Portis, but I really don't understand the extreme popularity he has with the media. The hawks just drafted and traded away a PF/C guy who hustled, had a decent midrange shot, a post game, and played good defense. Not to mention Payne was much better at blocking shots and rebounding. Why would they turn around a year later and draft an incredibly similar player in the exact same draft slot as the guy they just asked for a mulligan on? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AF89 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 For this team. 99% chance no lol. But that's probably true for all of them.I dont think bud would start a rookie, and there's probably not a guy at 15 who could start on a number one seed anyway.But I do think oubre has elite defensive potential. Could be a great 3 and D guy with some hops. He even has the effed up 3 point stance that Carroll has lolHe might even make it to his first offseason before we trade him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTann Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I like Bobby Portis, but I really don't understand the extreme popularity he has with the media.The hawks just drafted and traded away a PF/C guy who hustled, had a decent midrange shot, a post game, and played good defense. Not to mention Payne was much better at blocking shots and rebounding.Why would they turn around a year later and draft an incredibly similar player in the exact same draft slot as the guy they just asked for a mulligan on?I had a similar thought to yours, WOR. Why would the Hawks draft a guy similar to the guy who they drafted at #15 last year and then traded away? Heck, I still want to know why the Hawks gave up on Payne so early even if he was already 23. Anyways, I think that the Hawks initially drafted Payne with the idea that he would be either Pero's eventual replacement or in case they were to either trade Millsap or not re-sign him after this year. This year, both Millsap and Pero are free agents and we no longer have Payne so I think there is a spot for a PF. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WOR Posted June 23, 2015 Author Share Posted June 23, 2015 I had a similar thought to yours, WOR. Why would the Hawks draft a guy similar to the guy who they drafted at #15 last year and then traded away? Heck, I still want to know why the Hawks gave up on Payne so early even if he was already 23. Anyways, I think that the Hawks initially drafted Payne with the idea that he would be either Pero's eventual replacement or in case they were to either trade Millsap or not re-sign him after this year. This year, both Millsap and Pero are free agents and we no longer have Payne so I think there is a spot for a PF. I agree with what you're saying but if they were truly worried about losing Millsap and antic they would have kept Payne around at least as a big body. Why dump a "veteran" for a rookie if you know you're about to have a dire need for big men? I just don't think Bud thinks about big men the way the rest of us do. So we will see. It's also interesting that the very first thing Bud and Wilcox did was say "screw your draft pick ferry". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CTann Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 I agree with what you're saying but if they were truly worried about losing Millsap and antic they would have kept Payne around at least as a big body. Why dump a "veteran" for a rookie if you know you're about to have a dire need for big men?I just don't think Bud thinks about big men the way the rest of us do. So we will see.It's also interesting that the very first thing Bud and Wilcox did was say "screw your draft pick ferry".The part in bold, I really do wonder about that myself LOL!Right now, who knows what the Hawks' FO is planning on doing Thursday and when July 1st gets here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconsfan4life3 Posted June 23, 2015 Share Posted June 23, 2015 Just curious WOR but why do you think Payne is a much better rebounder and shot blocker than Portis? Portis averaged 8.9 RPG this year as a sophomore...the most Payne ever averaged in his 4 years as Mich State was 7.6 as a Junior. Also in Payne's best year he averaged 1.3 BPG (Junior year). Portis averaged 1.4 BPG as a Freshman and 1.6 BPG as a Sophomore. I think Portis is a superior prospect to Payne. Taller, more skilled offensively, better rebounder, shot blocker and 4 years younger. Payne has a low bball IQ...I heard he had trouble learning Bud's system which was another reason he couldn't get on the court. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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