Sheldon Cooper Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) QB1-Ryan2-Yates3-RenfreeWR4-Jones5-White6-Hankerson7-Hardy8-Hester(PR)TE9-Tamme10-Moeaki11-Toilolo(Gardner look good too,could push)RB12-Freeman13-Coleman14-A. Smith15-DiMarco or Mooney(FB)OL16-Matthews17-Chester18-Hawley19-Asamoah20-Schraeder21-Huffer22-Person23-Stone24-PolumbusDL25-Biermann26-Hageman27-Soliai28-Jackson29-Beasley30-Babinaux31-Jarrett32-Clayborn33-Starr34-MbuLB35-Durant36-Worrilow37-Reed38-Akunne39-Stupar40-SchofieldCB41-Trufant42-Alford43-Collins44-Southward45-King46-AdamsS47-Moore48-Allen49-Ishmael50-ParmsST51-Bryant52-Bosher53-HarrisLEO-BiermannRDT-HagemanLDT-SoliaiLDE-JacksonSLB-ReedLEO-BeasleyRDT-BabinauxLDT-JarrettLDE-ClaybornSLB-SchofieldReally this is 1A and 1B starters along DL, depending on down and distance. Edited June 20, 2015 by Ryan_2.0_WCO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 (edited) Weems, Bartu, and Godfrey are going to be on the 53. And Goodman is a very strong likelihood as well. Holmes too since he'll likely be back from injury by season start. Heck, Reedy has a chance to make it even. He plays better with pads on than without.I see Akunne, Parms, Huffer, King, and Mbu being on the PS, not the 53. And Starr is a long shot IMO. He looks ok without pads on, but he's low tier depth at best. Edited June 20, 2015 by Beef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 A few things.TE - I like Gardner. We won't be able to hide him long. Have you seen his measures?FB - Mooney is the guy IMO. Hard nosed and can run. DiMarco is a camp body who sneaked in with no real competition.DL - Maponga > StarrLB Bartu > StuparDB - Would take Therezie or Godfrey over Parms in a hurry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 Don't see Starr over Maponga or Goodman. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 A few things.TE - I like Gardner. We won't be able to hide him long. Have you seen his measures?FB - Mooney is the guy IMO. Hard nosed and can run. DiMarco is a camp body who sneaked in with no real competition.DL - Maponga > StarrLB Bartu > StuparDB - Would take Therezie or Godfrey over Parms in a hurry.didn't someone say he can't catch? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I highly doubt we keep 3 QB's. Expect another WR or even RB if not both.Seems to be a bit too much love for the Undrafted guys on defense, but I find it funny the one with the biggest shot to make it(Kevin White) is not one of them. Yes corner numbers game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 I'm expecting Armstrong to bang the table for Weems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draftnut57 Posted June 20, 2015 Share Posted June 20, 2015 DiMarco will be our FB, he's very good.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Mincy seems to be the front runner of UDFA CB's with White next. That said, we would need to place Southward on PUP or trade Alford. I think as long as Southward is ready they will keep the 6 above. Mincy and White are sure bets as PSers.Holmes is potentailly on PUP to start the year. It opens the door for a rookie and Huffer looks ahead of the other two tackles Rodgers and Lefeld.Therezie is hurt now and was dead last in the rotation. I loved him on paper but Parms in running third string already and picking off passes. If Allen passed Godfrey for good, why cant Parms? At 6'-1", 201, 4.60 he has the length Quinn likes. He needs to show he hits when the live action starts. Based on college I think he will.The Guys like Goodman, Maponga, and Matthews were probably displaced in the offseason by aquisitions like Clayborn, Schofield, and Jarrett. Beasley and Reed only furthered their descention. Add Hagemans development and not only do they look to have less playing time, they look to be out of a roster spot. Of the three Matthews was singled out by the coaches as "improved". Joey Mbu was mentioned at the same time as a stand out. Mbu comes with rave reviews from college coaches touted for work ethic sure to be highly regarded amoung the new staff. He also plays a position with no certain #2 in a traditional 1T. Lastly, like Starr, each are getting a lot of reps and appeared to be performing well. Starr in particular looks like he is running 3rd string LEO and getting a lot of reps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Don't see Starr over Maponga or Goodman.All 3 could make it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHost83 Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Beirmann isn't going to be our starting LEO, that's Beasley. Goodman over Starr. Starr is garbage. Goodman is good against the run and has some untapped pass rushing ability.Mbu will have to show something with pads on to push out Matthews. Coaches like Matthew versatility and he can play special teams. I like Mbu though.Bartu over Akunne at this point. Haven't heard any news of coaches praising him.I do like Parms over Godfrey. He will need a strong preseason to beat Godfrey out since he is a vet. Not a fan of Godfrey.Holmes over Huffer. Huffer is the size of a TE. Needs to build up strength also. Some of our receivers out benched this guy. He does have pretty good feet and technique though. PS squad for now.Mooney is better than butterfingers Dimarco.Weems over 3rd QB. Hope Renfree wins out number 2 QB, but Yates has an advantage with scheme familiarity. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 Beirmann isn't going to be our starting LEO, that's Beasley. Goodman over Starr. Starr is garbage. Goodman is good against the run and has some untapped pass rushing ability.Mbu will have to show something with pads on to push out Matthews. Coaches like Matthew versatility and he can play special teams. I like Mbu though.Bartu over Akunne at this point. Haven't heard any news of coaches praising him.I do like Parms over Godfrey. He will need a strong preseason to beat Godfrey out since he is a vet. Not a fan of Godfrey.Holmes over Huffer. Huffer is the size of a TE. Needs to build up strength also. Some of our receivers out benched this guy. He does have pretty good feet and technique though. PS squad for now.Mooney is better than butterfingers Dimarco.Weems over 3rd QB. Hope Renfree wins out number 2 QB, but Yates has an advantage with scheme familiarity.Quinn likes starr. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 How is the safety we took in the 7th doing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 didn't someone say he can't catch?Hadn't heard that man. He can't be worse than Toilolo...this guy can flat out run and has hops... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 Goodman vs StarrBased on college and some pros(Goodman) the sample size is small. People have seen more of Goodman and he has more NFL snaps. That should not convince anyone that he has the advantage over a group of guys that were not counted on by the new regime considering all the new faces. We know that Goodman was asked to lose weight to play LEO. I know I've seen Starr play a lot of LEO and looked good swatting LT's arms down and stressing the corner. JAX kept 3 LEO's and all three played and contributed sacks with 3 from 6'-1" 3rd string rookie 5th rd pick. What do we know about Quinn's preferences at LEO?Get offGoodman- Good get off but often negated by poor balance.Starr- Not much better if any and he sorely lacks Goodmans power to bull rush.LengthGoodman- He is 6'-3 1/2" tall and has like 35" arms and 11" hands. He should have a distinct advantage in hand combat but it does not show. Quinn to the rescue?Starr- He may not have vines for arms(32 1/2") but he is 6'-4 1/8" tall.PowerGoodman- Showed good power in college, but not in pro's. Took down QB's with force. Arms/hands showed up here.Starr- Admittedly, he looked very weak. Not a hitter and does not tackle with malice either. CoverageGoodman- Not built for it.Starr- Has done it more in college, but he sucks at it too.Speed to PowerGoodman- Does not stress the corner, he does win inside with strength/length. Has strength to bull rush. Strong but inconsistant tackler.Starr- He can slip under/around OT from time to time but is not a finisher, poor tackler.I went looking at college tape to make a case for Starr but Goodman looks far better. I based predictions on depth chart as best I could tell by usage in practice.Goodman hurt his knee but as long as he is good by training camp he should not lose ground due to lost reps. Goodman should win one of last couple DL spots based on college tape, size, and strength advantage. It did not appear to be the case in the one practice I was able to attend, but we have a long way to go before the last couple roster spots are decided. This is just for early indications. Both have had the luxury of an off season or two. We will see who has made the most of it.Judging by college tape, Goodman needs to work on balance and staying on his feet enroute to the QB. Starr needs to work on strength and wrapping up as well as arriving with bad intentions/force. Goodman got washed inside too much vs the run last year, so he also has to set the edge. Starr was poor at that in lower level college too though.I still love Mbu to make the team, but neither Goodman nor Starr will make the team if they are not significantly better than they were in sr year of college. If another spot is awarded it seems likely to be a LEO. I did not see much of Maponga or Goodman there though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted June 21, 2015 Author Share Posted June 21, 2015 How is the safety we took in the 7th doing?#3 RCB when Collins(#2 RCB) came out. Both looked good. Ball did not come their way a whole lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted June 21, 2015 Share Posted June 21, 2015 A few things.TE - I like Gardner. We won't be able to hide him long. Have you seen his measures?FB - Mooney is the guy IMO. Hard nosed and can run. DiMarco is a camp body who sneaked in with no real competition.DL - Maponga > StarrLB Bartu > StuparDB - Would take Therezie or Godfrey over Parms in a hurry.Hate to get hyped but Gardner reminds me of Jordan Cameron. Very explosive. He had a 41 inch vert and ran in 4.6-4.7 range. Best yet, he plays at that speed. His knock is blocking and age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Hate to get hyped but Gardner reminds me of Jordan Cameron. Very explosive. He had a 41 inch vert and ran in 4.6-4.7 range. Best yet, he plays at that speed. His knock is blocking and age.Forget all of that man. He's an UDFA so his age is like getting a a veteran FA. Blocking is something that gets easily overrated by the boards. We are not a power run team, so it matters little. This is very good stuff.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FalconFanSince1970 Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 QB1-Ryan2-Yates3-RenfreeWR4-Jones5-White6-Hankerson7-Hardy8-Hester(PR)TE9-Tamme10-Moeaki11-Toilolo(Gardner look good too,could push)RB12-Freeman13-Coleman14-A. Smith15-DiMarco or Mooney(FB)OL16-Matthews17-Chester18-Hawley19-Asamoah20-Schraeder21-Huffer22-Person23-Stone24-PolumbusDL25-Biermann26-Hageman27-Soliai28-Jackson29-Beasley30-Babinaux31-Jarrett32-Clayborn33-Starr34-MbuLB35-Durant36-Worrilow37-Reed38-Akunne39-Stupar40-SchofieldCB41-Trufant42-Alford43-Collins44-Southward45-King46-AdamsS47-Moore48-Allen49-Ishmael50-ParmsST51-Bryant52-Bosher53-HarrisLEO-BiermannRDT-HagemanLDT-SoliaiLDE-JacksonSLB-ReedLEO-BeasleyRDT-BabinauxLDT-JarrettLDE-ClaybornSLB-SchofieldReally this is 1A and 1B starters along DL, depending on down and distance.Another mofo cutting Weems. Keith Armstong don't like you bro.Oline looks like a Dimi special. A couple injuries away from a Huffer and a Columbus.Love me some Beer. On his third contract when most TATFers thought he was whale fodder seven years ago.If we can find a MLB on the June 1st cut list the LB unit will be totally upgraded.Alf is still our #2 corner and our FS is a cross trained second year rookie. QBs will be lickin their chops. Definitely the makings of a legion of doom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrimeyKidd Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Why are people just penciling in collins as #2 cb. The only thing he has going for him right now is that he is tall. Talent and experience wise alford is winning #2. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Another mofo cutting Weems. Keith Armstong don't like you bro.Oline looks like a Dimi special. A couple injuries away from a Huffer and a Columbus.Love me some Beer. On his third contract when most TATFers thought he was whale fodder seven years ago.If we can find a MLB on the June 1st cut list the LB unit will be totally upgraded.Alf is still our #2 corner and our FS is a cross trained second year rookie. QBs will be lickin their chops. Definitely the makings of a legion of doom.I like Jake Knott Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 DiMarco will be our FB, he's very good....said no one ever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 DiMarco will be our FB, he's very good....Wow...just wow bro... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BleedBlack&Red Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Weems will be on the team. I need to pay more attention to Gardner now, he has hands. Mbu will most likely be on PS unless he blows up in the preseason. I also think Godfrey slips in as the #2 FS. I am not a fan of Stupar, or Collins at #2 CB, right now. I am sure it is Alford's job to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomFan Posted June 22, 2015 Share Posted June 22, 2015 Since we are basing our D on what Seattle has done in the past, it makes sense to see what personnel they started the season with last year. This is what their defensive roster looked like after preseason and the cut down to 53 players; and how it looked before any major injuries. I've also included, as close as possible the corresponding player from our team that fits the Seattle player, or at least our player likely to make the roster.Defensive Line Interior (6)NTbase Brandon Mebane 6'1, 330 -- Soliai (Good match)3Tbase Tony McDaniel 6'7, 310 -- Hageman (Good match)5Tbase/DTnickel Michael Bennett 6'4, 275 -- Clayborn (Size match, player match yet to be determined)3T/5T/NT Greg Scruggs 6'3, 310 -- Jackson (Jax more like Bryant who started at 5T in 2013, allowing Bennett to come off bench)3T/NT/5T Kevin Williams 6'5, 311 -- Babs or Mbu (K. Williams filled in at NT after Mebane went on IR, was supposed to be backup 3T)DTnickel Jordan Hill 6'1, 300 -- Jarrett or Babs (Nickel DT)Edge rushers/SAM (5):LEO/DEn Cliff Avril 6'3,260 -- Biermann (Might play in base, giving way to Beasley in nickel)SLBbase/DEn Bruce Irvin 6'3, 255 -- Reed (good match)LEO/SLB O'Brien Schofield 6'3,242 -- Beasley (Beas a nickel rusher at least, starting Leo at best)LEO/DTn Cassius Marsh 6'4, 265 -- Goodman (very similar to Goodman; same size)SLB Mike Morgan 6'3, 226 -- Schofield (Scho more SLB/Leo than coverage LB like Morgan)Linebackers (5)WLB1 K.J.Wright 6'4, 246 -- Durant MLB1 Bobby Wagner 6'0, 241 -- WorrilowOLB Malcolm Smith 6'0, 230 -- SpruillMLB Brock Coyle 6'1, 235 -- Stupar (both primarily STers only)WLB Kevin Pierre-Louis 6'0, 232 -- Bartu/Bradford/AkunneDefensive Backs (9)CB1 Richard Sherman 6'3, 195 -- TrufantCB2 Byron Maxwell 6'1, 207 -- AlfordFS1 Earl Thomas 5'10, 202 -- R. AllenSS1 Kam Chancellor 6'3, 232 -- MooreNB1 Jeremy Lane 6'0, 190 -- CollinsNB2 Marcus Burley, 5'10, 189 -- P. AdamsCB3 Tharold Simon 6'2, 205 -- SouthwardSS2 DeShawn Shead 6'1, 225 -- IshmaelFS2 Jeron Johnson 5'10, 212 -- Godfrey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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