Falconcheff 5,612 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You can't cut a drafted player for getting injured.This would be Holmes' third year; it's not like we just drafted him this year. You can reach an injury settlement with him, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ovie_Lover 29,970 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Sure it does, it confirms that he isn't fit for our squad or even the NFL. He's terrible and never conditioned. Could you use that same argument for Baker that was cut? please teach us all this magical conditioning that will prevent us from breaking bones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 27,004 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No, Sam Baker was injured every single season as an Atlanta Falcon. Lamar Holmes has sucked every single year as a Falcon and was never conditioned properly, now has a broken foot. Corey Peters played the majority of his games here minus 5 that required Achilles surgury. And we are also talking about potential starters, Corey Peters never started for the Atlanta Falcons consistently. You're only proving my point. Baker's level of injuries and Holmes' level are simply too far apart to compare. What you are doing is saying that you like this player, therefore they aren't injury prone, but any player that you don't like, who gets injured, is injury prone. You can't have it both ways. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 27,004 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 This would be Holmes' third year; it's not like we just drafted him this year. You can reach an injury settlement with him, right?only if he and his agent agree to one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconsfan567 35,212 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Feel free to read the articles that I posted.Why? Because what I said is wrong when it's not? Remember Thomas Brown? Blew out his knee in the preseason in 2007 and was then cut and never played an NFL game. That's one of the best examples I can come up with right off the top of my head. There are hundreds of more guys like that if I were to do the research but somehow I'm wrong? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 23,795 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 (edited) Wow, folks come into a thread just to gloat about about a man breaking his ankle. Even if you don't like Holmes and all football aside, that seems kinda petty. Edited June 17, 2015 by FentayeJones Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 27,004 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Why? Because what I said is wrong when it's not? Remember Thomas Brown? Blew out his knee in the preseason in 2007 and was then cut and never played an NFL game. That's one of the best examples I can come up with right off the top of my head. There are hundreds of more guys like that if I were to do the research but somehow I'm wrong?You are. Injury settlements don't work the way that you seem to think that they do. The NFLPA would never have agreed to such a CBA. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bawse 5,006 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 please teach us all this magical conditioning that will prevent us from breaking bonesBetter technique? Not being so f*cking clumsy and terrible? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconcheff 5,612 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Wow, folks come into a thread just to gloat about about a man breaking his ankle. Even if you don't like Holmes and all football aside, that seems kinda petty.I don't think anyone's really gloating... we just want to know how this injury affects the team, the roster, the salary cap, and what our options are... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FentayeJones 23,795 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I don't think anyone's really gloating... we just want to know how this injury affects the team, the roster, the salary cap, and what our options are...Next man up. Injuries are part of the game and there will be many more when its all said and done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atlfanstckndenver 2,466 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I'm looking at you Schraeder. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bawse 5,006 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You're only proving my point. Baker's level of injuries and Holmes' level are simply too far apart to compare. What you are doing is saying that you like this player, therefore they aren't injury prone, but any player that you don't like, who gets injured, is injury prone. You can't have it both ways.No, i'm not saying any of that. I do not like any of the players that have been mentioned in this thread Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 27,004 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I don't think anyone's really gloating... we just want to know how this injury affects the team, the roster, the salary cap, and what our options are...No, there are most definitely posters in here, gloating, while saying what a loser he is for getting an injury that he couldn't possibly control. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconsfan567 35,212 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 You are. Injury settlements don't work the way that you seem to think that they do. The NFLPA would never have agreed to such a CBA.I have seen NFL players that have been drafted end up getting hurt and getting cut without playing a single NFL game and you sir can't tell me that I am wrong on that. It's a fact and Thomas Brown is one of many examples of that. I don't know a **** thing about injury settlements or anything else which is why I never mentioned the words injury selttlement. But whatever. It's clear you want to talk about something that I never even mentioned while trying to tell me that I'm wrong when I'm right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bawse 5,006 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Lamar Holmes is terrible, broken foot or not. I don't wish injury on another man but this was a blessing in disguise. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 27,004 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No, i'm not saying any of that. I do not like any of the players that have been mentioned in this thread The point is, you have to be consistent. If one player getting injured twice is injury prone, then the same is true of all. You can't say that only players that you think are bad, are in that category. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconcheff 5,612 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 No, there are most definitely posters in here, gloating, while saying what a loser he is for getting an injury that he couldn't possibly control.Oh. I must have glossed over those because they're not worth my time... I'm definitely a Holmes supporter......because he's a Falcon... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 27,004 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 I have seen NFL players that have been drafted end up getting hurt and getting cut without playing a single NFL game and you sir can't tell me that I am wrong on that. It's a fact and Thomas Brown is one of many examples of that. I don't know a **** thing about injury settlements or anything else which is why I never mentioned the words injury selttlement. But whatever. It's clear you want to talk about something that I never even mentioned while trying to tell me that I'm wrong when I'm right.When a player is injured, a team is required to pay their medical bills. The only way that they can release an injured player is if that player and his agent agree to an injury settlement. You can't just cut whoever you want. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bawse 5,006 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 The point is, you have to be consistent. If one player getting injured twice is injury prone, then the same is true of all. You can't say that only players that you think are bad, are in that category. How many years has Lamar Holmes been a Falcon, and out of those years, how many years has he been injured? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 27,004 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 How many years has Lamar Holmes been a Falcon, and out of those years, how many years has he been injured? This is his second, and, so far, only one has impacted playing time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Falconsfan567 35,212 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 When a player is injured, a team is required to pay their medical bills. The only way that they can release an injured player is if that player and his agent agree to an injury settlement. You can't just cut whoever you want.Right. But I wasn't talking about that. You said you can't cut a drafted player for getting hurt and but yes you can. Yes there has to be the "injury settlement" but you can indeed cut the player. That is all I said. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hjerry 27,004 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Right. But I wasn't talking about that. You said you can't cut a drafted player for getting hurt and but yes you can. Yes there has to be the "injury settlement" but you can indeed cut the player. That is all I said.OK, sorry, maybe I should have clarified. You can't cut them "without their consent"sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
spanish_falcon 873 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Waste no more time with this guy... I bet he wont play for other team when we cut him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Makaveli96 1,095 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 This really sucks because we need depth. I don't care how bad he is. We are not starting off on the right foot this year when it comes to injuries. Someone is already hurt and we are not even through training camp yet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
toadfishtom 5,526 Posted June 17, 2015 Share Posted June 17, 2015 Bye LamarTough luck buddy Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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