Jigglypuff Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 (edited) Parents Say NAACP Leader Has Lied About Her Racial IdentitySPOKANE, Wash. — Jun 12, 2015, 2:41 PM ETBy NICHOLAS K. GERANIOS Associated PressNAACP officials responded Friday to questions about the racial identity of the woman who runs a local Washington state chapter by saying the organization's leaders can come from any background.Rachel Dolezal has led the Spokane, Washington, chapter of the African-American civil rights group for several years, but her integrity was thrown into question when her parents said she is white but has been pretending to be black.Their public comments triggered a national debate over race and ethnicity.Dolezal, meanwhile, has declined to comment directly about her family background, saying Thursday that the "question is not as easy as it seems. There's a lot of complexities . and I don't know that everyone would understand that."She couldn't be reached Friday when contacted by The Associated Press.Aside from her role as president of the Spokane NAACP chapter, Dolezal is an adjunct professor in the Africana Studies Program at Eastern Washington University and chairwoman of Spokane's police overnight board.Spokane's mayor and City Council president have said an inquiry is underway into whether she violated city polices when she listed herself as white, black and American Indian on her application for the Office of Police Ombudsman Commission.The NAACP has released a statement saying it respects Dolezal's privacy in the matter. "One's racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for NAACP leadership,'" the group said. "In every corner of this country, the NAACP remains committed to securing political, educational, and economic justice for all people."Dolezal has said the controversy emerged because of legal issues between family members, but she hasn't offered specifics. Her mother says the family has been aware of the racial claims but has only commented about them when contacted. Ruthanne Dolezal told The Spokesman-Review newspaper ( http://bit.ly/1MuATMc ) her daughter's background is Czech, Swedish and German, with some Native American.She said she and her daughter haven't been in touch for years but that Rachel Dolezal began to portray herself as black about a decade ago after the family adopted four black children."It's very sad that Rachel has not just been herself," the mother told the newspaper by phone from her home in Montana. "Her effectiveness in the causes of the African-American community would have been so much more viable and she would have been more effective if she had just been honest with everybody."http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/naacp-chapter-president-questioned-racial-identity-31717764 Edited June 12, 2015 by WORRY_LOW1492 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigglypuff Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 I vote yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biloxifalcon Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I read this earlier, almost posted it. Then I thought, **** no, this place will blow up! But as far as what she did, she just straight lied in my opinion. No such thing as trans racial in this case, at least to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jigglypuff Posted June 12, 2015 Author Share Posted June 12, 2015 I read this earlier, almost posted it. Then I thought, **** no, this place will blow up! But as far as what she did, she just straight lied in my opinion. No such thing as trans racial in this case, at least to me.Aren't men dressing as women lying too if they say they are women? or am I confusing gender and sex Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Hoopah! Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 It's a bizarre story. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 The NAACP has released a statement saying it respects Dolezal's privacy in the matter. "One's racial identity is not a qualifying criteria or disqualifying standard for NAACP leadership,'" the group said. "In every corner of this country, the NAACP remains committed to securing political, educational, and economic justice for all people."Doesn't sound like it's that big a deal to anyone outside that family. That quote by the mother at the end also seems just a little too precise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 First Micheal Jackson wanted to be white, now this woman wanting to be black. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gritzblitz 2.0 Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 It worked for Navin Johnson. (Not expecting many to get that reference) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flip Wilson Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 It worked for Navin Johnson.(Not expecting many to get that reference)....born a poor black child.Wasn't Michael Jackson transracial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 See Sammy Sosa: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toadfishtom Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Whatever will be Will be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psychic Gibbon Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I look forward to the civil war in that movement over whether she's oppressed or a culture appropriating white person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JDaveG Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I read this earlier, almost posted it. Then I thought, **** no, this place will blow up! But as far as what she did, she just straight lied in my opinion. No such thing as trans racial in this case, at least to me.I considered posting it as well, and I also thought better of it. What interests me about it is that race as we deal with it is a complete fiction to begin with. It seems to me that while there are some tangible differences between the races, they are also superficial differences, so the real problem with being "transracial" is that it does not really obliterate those distinctions, nor does it work to lessen the societal affect of them. If anything, it seems to trivialize them.Put another way, whatever Rachel Dolezal might have had to deal with as an "African American woman" today, she cannot have any concept of what it is like to grow up as such, and to not be able to put it away should she ever try to. You can change how you appear, but you can't change the social consequences of that appearance. The real concern we should share is not whether to be "transracial," but rather why we have societal consequences for superficial human distinctions to begin with. We don't discriminate against people with red hair or green eyes. So why people with dark skin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biloxifalcon Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I considered posting it as well, and I also thought better of it. What interests me about it is that race as we deal with it is a complete fiction to begin with. It seems to me that while there are some tangible differences between the races, they are also superficial differences, so the real problem with being "transracial" is that it does not really obliterate those distinctions, nor does it work to lessen the societal affect of them. If anything, it seems to trivialize them.Put another way, whatever Rachel Dolezal might have had to deal with as an "African American woman" today, she cannot have any concept of what it is like to grow up as such, and to not be able to put it away should she ever try to. You can change how you appear, but you can't change the social consequences of that appearance. The real concern we should share is not whether to be "transracial," but rather why we have societal consequences for superficial human distinctions to begin with. We don't discriminate against people with red hair or green eyes. So why people with dark skin?Excellent point! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biloxifalcon Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 See Sammy Sosa:That looks really fake man. No way in **** I'd do that to myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andras Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 It's fake.He says the skin tone got a little lighter because of a skin cream he uses. The eyes are either a hoax or contacts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheIncomparableLiamNeeson Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 It worked for Navin Johnson.(Not expecting many to get that reference)RIP Iron Balls McGinty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GEORGIAfan Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Ocean Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 It sums up the state of the board pretty well that valued contributor IBM can't post here anymore while we have a crew of goobers who are textbook cases of Poe's Law that seemingly have free rein over the place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 rip mono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Ocean Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 With Mono gone as a mod and the people who regularly file reports still present, I'm not sure how long me and my warning points will last around here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Serge Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 With any luck this place can become like tatf with a hundredth the traffic and roughly the same homophobia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sobeit Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Well before I would have treated her like a idiot now I will treat her like a bigger idiot. Do you think that makes me trans-raceaphobic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lostone Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Wait... What happened to mono?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silentbob1272 Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Wait... What happened to mono??Retired due to hectic life, still around as a poster. He wrote a nice explanation thread in TATF Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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