Trouble Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 ESPN Saints reporter Mike Triplett considers fourth-year WR Nick Toon the "strong frontrunner" to serve as New Orleans' No. 3 receiver this year.Seantavius Jones and Brandon Coleman have drawn more OTA headlines, but Toon is in the driver's seat to work into three-receiver packages behind Brandin Cooks and Marques Colston. 26-year-old Toon had a quiet first three seasons in the league, but came on down the stretch in 2014 and ran 4.43-4.54 at 6-foot-2, 215 coming out of Wisconsin. He's a deep sleeper to monitor. LOL remember when people used to not care about HD because #3 backs weren't important. Colston has lost 5 steps so expect Toon to be important. They should have Kept Graham. Seahawks are still praising him over there. Talking about he is a monster in the redzone and catches everything his way. No one can cover him. Im glad we don't have to worry about Graham twice a year now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 A slow possession WR that fumbles in OTMe tooThat's fumbled in one OT. Still a solid contributor. I can imagine Falcon fans being glad Graham is gone but don't expect a drop off in offensive production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallychamp Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Actually we do, JG was Breesus crutch the last few seasons. That and dump off passes to the RBs...don't come after me, go after PAYTON MAN!TE production in the red zone will especially fall off, but we were a dynamic offense long before Jimmy Graham arrived on the scene.C.J. Spiller is a dynamic playmaker (if he remains healthy) and should expand that pass catching RB role.I think the addition of Unger to keep to pocket clean for Brees to step up into, he will have the time needed to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers. Saints will move the ball again this year. Will the defense stop anybody? Yet to be answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 Spiller will be good but i think he wont stay healthy. Brees almost got Graham killed by passing up the middle. No reason brees tried those passes. But who knows. Im going off that you get that matchup with a lb he will probably go up the middle with him or toon and one is gonna end up dead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconcheff Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 TE production in the red zone will especially fall off, but we were a dynamic offense long before Jimmy Graham arrived on the scene.C.J. Spiller is a dynamic playmaker (if he remains healthy) and should expand that pass catching RB role.I think the addition of Unger to keep to pocket clean for Brees to step up into, he will have the time needed to get the ball in the hands of his playmakers. Saints will move the ball again this year. Will the defense stop anybody? Yet to be answered.You guys acyually won your SB without Graham, so I'll definitely give you that you were dynamic without him.But that was also five years ago, and five years on an aged qb can prove to be not so good... especially when for the past five years, Graham has averaged something in the range of 40% of Drew's first reads... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndySG Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Wasn't Toon the next Randy Moss a couple of years ago?This is coming from a guy who is part of a fan base that labeled Darius Johnson the next Wes Welker, by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconcheff Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm not worried about Nick Toon... I'm pretty sure Trufant can cover this guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredman Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Colston is getting long in the tooth, but he is still a good Recivier , he is close to Roddy White Good, and Roddy can still play.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shredman Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Yes, but remember our mantra Shred:Roddy > Colstonjust sayin'Roddy is the best WR in Falcon Historyand thats saying something considering we have had guys Like A Jenkins, A Jackson, T Mathis, T Martin, E Metcalf, M Haynes and A Risoneasy to forget what White has done for us with the Beast that is J Jones wearing Red and Black these Days..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 Actually we do, JG was Breesus crutch the last few seasons. That and dump off passes to the RBs...don't come after me, go after PAYTON MAN!And what did Brees do before Graham? Did our offense suck until we drafted him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 You guys acyually won your SB without Graham, so I'll definitely give you that you were dynamic without him.But that was also five years ago, and five years on an aged qb can prove to be not so good... especially when for the past five years, Graham has averaged something in the range of 40% of Drew's first reads...At what age does a QB lose the ability to adapt to new players and a new game plan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted June 10, 2015 Share Posted June 10, 2015 (edited) That was when Breesus was a bit younger and the offense was more balanced. The deep ball has been virtually non-existent the last few years and Breesus ain't getting any younger!Isn't the reason we are trying to improve our o-line is to improve the run game and be more balanced? Edited June 10, 2015 by Aquietguy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconcheff Posted June 11, 2015 Share Posted June 11, 2015 At what age does a QB lose the ability to adapt to new players and a new game plan?I don't know... how old is Brees? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 I don't know... how old is Brees?Passed it im sure.Brees is arm isnt what it was and the saints know it. He might have 1 or 2 good punts a game. But thats why they are going after speedsters. But the Raiders been trying that for years and big gains might = qb stats. But its not a deep pass for that gain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trouble Posted June 11, 2015 Author Share Posted June 11, 2015 Still Brees career is probably winding down and Payton never seemed to respect his rbs the way he should. Romo actually stands a better chance at winning the sb than Brees at this point. Hard to justify Brees price. He is actually holding the Saints back now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 I agree. He is still good but not that kind of good. Payton knows to win they need to balance out the offense because Breesus can no longer carry the load! Also, Rob Ryan ain't helping that defense anytime soon!He's still considered elite. And a balanced attack is good to have no matter the age of your QB. But even without a run game Brees still manage to put up elite numbers for a QB of any age.As for defense, Falcons have no room to mention it. I'm less concerned about our D than you should be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquietguy Posted June 12, 2015 Share Posted June 12, 2015 Not knocking Breesus, just sayin' he is not what he once was. He is still close to a top 5 QBI think you will see our defense vastly improved. I suspect (and hope) we are at least 10 spots higher than the saints defense!You will also see a vast improvement in our D. We will be much closer to 2013 than last year I believe our draft class this year will end up being considered very stellar in a few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashburn*Fibonacci Posted June 13, 2015 Share Posted June 13, 2015 Still Brees career is probably winding down and Payton never seemed to respect his rbs the way he should. Romo actually stands a better chance at winning the sb than Brees at this point. Hard to justify Brees price. He is actually holding the Saints back now. Payton cared more about Vicodin then his running backs. He never knew what any of them were until they were wrong. And he sure as heck did not know how to use their full potential. #loomised Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Spiller will be good but i think he wont stay healthy. Brees almost got Graham killed by passing up the middle. No reason brees tried those passes. But who knows. Im going off that you get that matchup with a lb he will probably go up the middle with him or toon and one is gonna end up dead.Spiller won't be an every down back like he was in Buffalo. So his chances of getting hurt will be lessened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashburn*Fibonacci Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Spiller won't be an every down back like he was in Buffalo. So his chances of getting hurt will be lessened. spiller was a every down back? When? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevo Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 spiller was a every down back? When?Technically he was in a two back rotation in Buffalo. In NOLA, he'll be in a 3 back rotation. Payton is smart enough to know how to optimize Spiller's strengths and lessen his chances at getting him hurt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mashburn*Fibonacci Posted June 15, 2015 Share Posted June 15, 2015 Technically he was in a two back rotation in Buffalo. In NOLA, he'll be in a 3 back rotation. Payton is smart enough to know how to optimize Spiller's strengths and lessen his chances at getting him hurt. Payton knows how to give him vicodin Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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