Oldskooler Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 But surprisingly, because of the Chester signing to fill the hole at G, I am actually hopeful that TD will find someone. I am amazingly not convinced that TD is still mired in arrogant ignorance.Is it Quinn? Giving better feedback and more accurate direction on who or what type of player is needed?Is TD simply roused from the comfort he previously enjoyed from the Ryan/JJ draft coups?I neither know nor care. It simply feels pretty good to see a problem and have some realistic hope it will be somehow fixed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 meh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YoungHeezy Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 If Godfrey is all the way healthy he will be more than adequate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GleasonForever! Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 We do but expectations need to be logical. When you say we have a dire need at FS do you mean so we can make a run at a SB? We have 2 FS on the roster competing to start. People keep forgetting that we won 10 games the past 2 seasons combined 10. It's not going to be a one season fix. Rather than trading future draft picks who else out there is going to come in and make us say CHAMPIONSHIP? No FS out there. Let's build through the draft and creative FA and let's roll what we have this year. Not worth making some radical move or desperately handing out a 2 yr contract for any average safety who may not even be better than Godfrey out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 We may have a need but I dont think it is dire nor desperate. Godfery is more than capable of holding down he position for a year. Besides, barring a cut or trade, there really is not a whole lot on the FS market right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 We do but expectations need to be logical. When you say we have a dire need at FS do you mean so we can make a run at a SB? We have 2 FS on the roster competing to start. People keep forgetting that we won 10 games the past 2 seasons combined 10. It's not going to be a one season fix. Rather than trading future draft picks who else out there is going to come in and make us say CHAMPIONSHIP? No FS out there. Let's build through the draft and creative FA and let's roll what we have this year. Not worth making some radical move or desperately handing out a 2 yr contract for any average safety who may not even be better than Godfrey out there.I think you missed the point of the thread.Yes, we need a FS. But the point is actually the winds of change swirling about the direction the franchise is headed. The real point is not the need of a FS. The point is that the team seems more likely than not to provide at least an adequate fix. I don't feel my guts clench thinking about it, because for whatever reason, the team seems to have a plan for every spot, and the plan seems to be advancing.In short, the point of the thread is supposed to be that even I see reasons for optimism. Guarded, cautious optimism, but hope springs renewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 When you put dire and desperate need in the title, you really can't expect people to assume you're optimistic.Title is so misleading that it probably violates COC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 You do love those overblown thread titles don't you mate. lolBut as for the topic, it is most definitely Quinn. People don't understand how much input a HC has into every player brought onto the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monolith2001 Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 We may have a need but I dont think it is dire nor desperate. Godfery is more than capable of holding down he position for a year. Besides, barring a cut or trade, there really is not a whole lot on the FS market right now.I second this. If the scheme is right, Godfrey will be able to hold it down. If Willy Mo can stay healthy, Ish could play the role too. It's not a dire situation though not ideal unless there is a breakout. Given what's out there to be grabbed, I think we can manage for a year with who we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beef Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 We do but expectations need to be logical. When you say we have a dire need at FS do you mean so we can make a run at a SB? We have 2 FS on the roster competing to start. People keep forgetting that we won 10 games the past 2 seasons combined 10. It's not going to be a one season fix. Rather than trading future draft picks who else out there is going to come in and make us say CHAMPIONSHIP? No FS out there. Let's build through the draft and creative FA and let's roll what we have this year. Not worth making some radical move or desperately handing out a 2 yr contract for any average safety who may not even be better than Godfrey out there.Anything can happen. The expectations are certainly not a 1-year turn-around and a SB, of course. But this is the NFL and anything can happen. Every year at least 5 teams that made the playoffs the previous year don't make it the next.Defense has this unique aspect known as a funnel effect. As pass rush gets better, it forces passing mistakes which leads to better pass coverage. And as pass coverage gets better, it allows for pass rush to execute better. And when passing is difficult it makes an offense predictable, which means it's easier to crowd the box for obvious runs. And so on and so on. These things keep compounding on themselves and creating this circular funneling effect of better execution.The other thing is scheme and scheme fit. Our defense had no identity under Nolan. There was no recipe with specific ingredients. Quinn, on the other hand, has a proven formula that just needs guys trained on how to execute it properly. It's abundantly obvious that Quinn's goal is to get players with the physical capabilities, the things that can't be coached up, and then mold them in to the players that make his formula work. I'm pretty sure he'll figure out which guy on this team can play FS in his system.We were already 8th in yards and 12 in scoring last year on offense with absolutely no running game and a terrible OL. It's a very safe bet we will improve on these figures. Either way, a top-10 offense is plenty. New England was 11th in yards, 4th in scoring, and 13th in defense. If we can get top-15 in defense, anything is possible. 32nd to ~15th on D should be our goal. And if that happens, this will be a great season with great possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NCCooley Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I think you missed the point of the thread.Yes, we need a FS. But the point is actually the winds of change swirling about the direction the franchise is headed. The real point is not the need of a FS. The point is that the team seems more likely than not to provide at least an adequate fix. I don't feel my guts clench thinking about it, because for whatever reason, the team seems to have a plan for every spot, and the plan seems to be advancing.In short, the point of the thread is supposed to be that even I see reasons for optimism. Guarded, cautious optimism, but hope springs renewed.Actually it was your title that missed the point of the thread! Good point tho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moist Words Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 I see what you did there Oldskooler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 When you put dire and desperate need in the title, you really can't expect people to assume you're optimistic.Title is so misleading that it probably violates COC.You might need to go with boxers. Your granny-panties appear to he several sizes too small. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 You might need to go with boxers. Your granny-panties appear to he several sizes too small.That assumes you have the ability to upset me, which is another mistaken idea of yours. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Actually it was your title that missed the point of the thread! Good point tho.First, the purpose of a title is to generate interest: not to provide a synopsis.Secondly, the title pokes fun at another thread title of mine, and shows how recent moves (Chester signing) and the draft have demonstrated a very different, much more clearly planned out strategy and long term goal the coaches and GM have now. Completely different from the previous regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 First, the purpose of a title is to generate interest: not to provide a synopsis.Secondly, the title pokes fun at another thread title of mine, and shows how recent moves (Chester signing) and the draft have demonstrated a very different, much more clearly planned out strategy and long term goal the coaches and GM have now. Completely different from the previous regime.None of that invalidates my original post. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 But surprisingly, because of the Chester signing to fill the hole at G, I am actually hopeful that TD will find someone. I am amazingly not convinced that TD is still mired in arrogant ignorance.Is it Quinn? Giving better feedback and more accurate direction on who or what type of player is needed?Yes, I believe so. It's been noted several times in quotes (sometimes a bit hidden) that having a clearer direction has been huge... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 That assumes you have the ability to upset me, which is another mistaken idea of yours.Sure sounds like your jimmies were thoroughly rustled. And sisnce the thread title was clearly lampooning my own, earlier thread about LG if you bothered to actually read the initial post, that's pretty sad.Try reading more than the title in the future. And yeah. Definitely boxers next time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xSICKxWITHxITx Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Link? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Sure sounds like your jimmies were thoroughly rustled. And sisnce the thread title was clearly lampooning my own, earlier thread about LG if you bothered to actually read the initial post, that's pretty sad.Try reading more than the title in the future. And yeah. Definitely boxers next time.Repeating a mistaken assumption makes it no less mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Total Package Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 (edited) . Edited June 1, 2015 by UGAexpat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 If Godfrey is all the way healthy he will be more than adequate.I think thesis exactly what Raheem and Quinn are thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oldskooler Posted June 1, 2015 Author Share Posted June 1, 2015 Yes, I believe so. It's been noted several times in quotes (sometimes a bit hidden) that having a clearer direction has been huge...I remember when we signed Dunta Robinson, a man cover corner, when our defense was predicated upon zone schemes. I'll bet that wouldn't have happened under the current regime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 Oddly, Im not very worried aboutvthe FS position. The team is cognizant that an upgrade is in order. They impress upon me a desire to grow and make the changes necessary. Its a new day in Falcon Nation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hjerry Posted June 1, 2015 Share Posted June 1, 2015 What if the Saints release Rafael Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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