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4. Falcons, Matt Ryan



Matt Ryan has never elevated talent in the manner of a Manning or Brady. But if you give him talent, he knows what to do with it. It’s shocking how rare of a quality this can be in today’s NFL. You could argue that Ryan is overrated since his mere presence alone does not guarantee competitive football. Ryan has overseen four- and six-win campaigns the past two seasons. By contrast, neither Manning nor Brady-led teams have won fewer than 10 games since 2002. But that does not mean Ryan is overrated, or that his numbers are empty. So Ryan rarely wins games by himself, so what. He does his job better than the vast majority of his peers, and never gets hurt. By the time the Falcons have to worry about their quarterback situation, Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush will be running for re-election. Ryan isn’t transcendent, but at least 80 percent of the league’s teams would be better off with him at quarterback.


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4. Falcons, Matt Ryan

Matt Ryan has never elevated talent in the manner of a Manning or Brady. But if you give him talent, he knows what to do with it. It’s shocking how rare of a quality this can be in today’s NFL. You could argue that Ryan is overrated since his mere presence alone does not guarantee competitive football. Ryan has overseen four- and six-win campaigns the past two seasons. By contrast, neither Manning nor Brady-led teams have won fewer than 10 games since 2002. But that does not mean Ryan is overrated, or that his numbers are empty. So Ryan rarely wins games by himself, so what. He does his job better than the vast majority of his peers, and never gets hurt. By the time the Falcons have to worry about their quarterback situation, Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush will be running for re-election. Ryan isn’t transcendent, but at least 80 percent of the league’s teams would be better off with him at quarterback.

Imagine what he's gonna do with a run game and when he's not running that ******* screen 5x a game.

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Since he's never had the level of support all the way from coaching, defense, play calling, scheming, creativity, running game, pass protection that Brady and Manning enjoy almost annually it's hard to draw any conclusions on if he can do same as them with same support.

In fact, the one year, in 2012, that Ryan got a reasonable level of overall support he took his team on his back all the way to a 10 yard dropped pass of a Super Bowl. That was with Smitty as his head coach, Dirk Koetter as his OC and Mike Nolan as his DC.

I cant wait to see what our awesome NFL QB does with a highy competent coaching staff running all phases of the game. I think much of the unreasonable criticism directed at him for the shortcomings of those around him will start to be replaced with words like "elite" and discussions of how he elevates those around him.

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Matt Ryan is far from the only QB in the NFL that doesn't "elevate the players around him". I only think two QB's do at this time and that's Rodgers and Brady. Manning, not anymore. Brees, not anymore. Luck, arguable but that team has some talent.

I'll just say this... If Matt Ryan goes down we are screwed. I also don't think any QB outside of Brady or Rodgers could win more games with the same roster (injuries over the last 2 seasons included) than Matt Ryan has.

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I'll just say this... If Matt Ryan goes down we are screwed. I also don't think any QB outside of Brady or Rodgers could win more games with the same roster (injuries over the last 2 seasons included) than Matt Ryan has.

Agreed, but I'd add in there same roster and same coaching staff ( and injuries over the last 2 seasons)

Let's face it, our coaching staff totally lost its way and it certainly was not what I would call elite even in the good years. It was good, but never elite. I really like the coaches we have now.

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4. Falcons, Matt Ryan

Matt Ryan has never elevated talent in the manner of a Manning or Brady. But if you give him talent, he knows what to do with it. It’s shocking how rare of a quality this can be in today’s NFL. You could argue that Ryan is overrated since his mere presence alone does not guarantee competitive football. Ryan has overseen four- and six-win campaigns the past two seasons. By contrast, neither Manning nor Brady-led teams have won fewer than 10 games since 2002. But that does not mean Ryan is overrated, or that his numbers are empty. So Ryan rarely wins games by himself, so what. He does his job better than the vast majority of his peers, and never gets hurt. By the time the Falcons have to worry about their quarterback situation, Hillary Clinton or Jeb Bush will be running for re-election. Ryan isn’t transcendent, but at least 80 percent of the league’s teams would be better off with him at quarterback.

Peyton Manning is a great QB no doubt, but unlike Tom Brady, Manning has always played on stacked offensive teams. He did not have to do much elevating IMO.

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Ryan would elevate the level of play of his receivers, but he can't make his lineman block better, and like manning/brady that is one thing he needs. Difference is they have always had solid lines (won't even touch on the topic of run game and defense that Ryans had to play without past 2 years)

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Peyton Manning is a great QB no doubt, but unlike Tom Brady, Manning has always played on stacked offensive teams. He did not have to do much elevating IMO.

And Brady has never played on a team with anything less than a good offensive line. It's amazing how good you can make average skill players look with a good O Line and a good QB. Plus he's always had the supposed best coach in the NFL along for the ride.

This article is bunk - there are no transcendent QBs in the NFL that can elevate a garbage team to 10 wins. Every 10+ win team Manning and Brady have been on have also been very talented teams.

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Since he's never had the level of support all the way from coaching, defense, play calling, scheming, creativity, running game, pass protection that Brady and Manning enjoy almost annually it's hard to draw any conclusions on if he can do same as them with same support.

In fact, the one year, in 2012, that Ryan got a reasonable level of overall support he took his team on his back all the way to a 10 yard dropped pass of a Super Bowl. That was with Smitty as his head coach, Dirk Koetter as his OC and Mike Nolan as his DC.

I cant wait to see what our awesome NFL QB does with a highy competent coaching staff running all phases of the game. I think much of the unreasonable criticism directed at him for the shortcomings of those around him will start to be replaced with words like "elite" and discussions of how he elevates those around him.

BS post. Ryan has had just as much "support" as any other QB in NFL.

You do realize Manning has had Jim Mora and John Fox as head coaches?

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Would love to see us revert back to some of the older versions of Matty Ice, running the ball successfully and hitting a lot of PA passes over the stretch of the game. These bubble screens have been horrible to watch and way to predictable.

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Something that always gets lost on these things is whether someone had the opportunity to "elevate" players.

This is what you do with 3rd and 4th round (sometimes 2nd, or 5th) receivers, tight ends, etc.

The Falcons prior to this year had drafted one receiver in the mid rounds, Harry Douglas. So, you have no idea whether Ryan can elevate people because he had 1st rounders (won't get credit for elevating) or UDFAs like Drew Davis, who didn't have the talent to really be on a team.

Give him an assortment of 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounders and a solid scheme, and you'll magically see this "elevation."

I think the placement is fine, I just get annoyed with people, again, equating getting something out of a 3rd rounder to getting something out of a random UDFA. Just like we wouldn't get mad at a coach who couldn't get anything out of only 7th rounders on a DL, but would get mad at a coach who couldn't get anything out of 2nd and 3rd rounders...the same is true of a QB and his receivers.

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And Brady has never played on a team with anything less than a good offensive line. It's amazing how good you can make average skill players look with a good O Line and a good QB. Plus he's always had the supposed best coach in the NFL along for the ride.

This article is bunk - there are no transcendent QBs in the NFL that can elevate a garbage team to 10 wins. Every 10+ win team Manning and Brady have been on have also been very talented teams.

Manning's last year with Indy was all him....injuries up and down the line, no run game, and one receiver. Went on an 8 or 9 game win streak to seal the deal in the end. Had Caldwell as his coach so it wasn't some HOF guy. Same team won 2 games the following year.

And Ryan has made his o-line look halfway competent by avoiding high sack #s with 600+ dropbacks before so...meh. I think making others around you is a thing, but it's moreso presence and mistake free football than anything else. Usually running QBs make their running backs better because of all the gap management defenses have to cover. RBs can make life cake for passing QBs of they need 8 in the box to be stopped. The top receivers help everyone else by attracting bracket coverages and roll overs. QBs who can get the ball out quick will keep sack stats off record.

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Hard for me to feel 'insulted' that analysis states Ryan isn't quite Brady or Manning, lol. Like was stated, being extremely competent is a lot less common in the NFL than many assume.

It's so nice having one of the top 10 QBS in the league, a luxury that 20+ teams would love to have.

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I don't get this "elevate players" stuff. What the **** is Matt Ryan supposed to do, give a pep rally? What's the mysterious mechanism by which Tom Brady supposedly "elevates" his team? You know who I think really elevates the team? Bill Belichick.

Matt Ryan is a quarterback. If he makes good reads and throws the ball accurately, what more can he do? Somebody like Aaron Rodgers I can see. His game is statistically beautiful: constantly good PCT, high YPA, ridiculous TD/INT ratio year in and year out.

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How many NFL QBs have had talent to work with such as Gonzales, Roddy, Julio and Turner?

Not a diss on Matt, but you guys need to tone the homerism down a notch or two.

In my opinion I think he capitalized on that talent just fine. 13-3 and almost a Super Bowl appearance. And he did his part in the NFC Championship game. The talent he lacked was on defense. No doubt he had great catchers and he utilized that effectively, but receivers alone sometimes aren't enough.

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