Tuggle'2 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Think we get our TDs up? Will Shannahan get those 6 over settling for 3 more often then not? I personally hope Kyle utilizes Julio in the redzone/1st and goal situations. Dirk just seemed to simply refuse to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lornoth Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I definitely think our redzone offense should improve. JJ will get used more, and the ZBS should help out hugely. In the past few years when the other team suspected we were going to run they just overpowered us completely, hopefully they won't be able to do that this year. I think Kyle will utilize our TE's to much greater effect in the redzone this year as well, he likes to use his TE's.And it should be noted we were #6 in redzone efficiency last year, so we were pretty good despite all those issues. We could be #1 or 2 this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grrrillapmpn Inc.® Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Still not sure how we seemed to never just send Julio to the corner and put it up for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 This is an area I expect dramatic improvement (though our efficiency in the RZ was ranked top 10 last year IIRC). But there was so much wrong with us. First, we never ran the ball, so we had no threat of it. Teams would throw 6 in the box and even if we did run, they stopped it. This left a lot of DB's to stay in coverage, making an already difficult job for Matt (no threat of run game) more difficult. Throw in the injuries all over the line. Also, Riley Cooper received more targets in the endzone than julio. Yeah that's never happening again, so there's another improvement. The ZBS hides intentions well. No longer will it be painfully obvious when we plan to run. This makes Matt's job easier. The bootlegs and rollouts will also help. The threat of this forces the backside safety to freeze, helping the run game. Better run game, better results. Better run game, easier passing game as teams are forced to respect the threat of the run. Teams respecting the run means less guys in coverage, meaning more julio and more TD's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atlshocker Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Having healthy fullbacks should help. Still questions on our oline, we will see. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I know 1 area we definitely improve and that will be in the slot. Hardys biggest edge over HD is his ability to go up and make contested balls. He won't have to completely rely on getting separation like HD did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 It is a concern, and with the new extra point rules, and potential to see a lot more 2 point conversions, having a strong short yardage/red zone package will be key in close games. I'm really excited about this offense, but I would like to see a big bruiser added to alleviate that concern. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJmusic Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Still not sure how we seemed to never just send Julio to the corner and put it up for him.I think that will change this year for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capologist Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Shanahan, 1 n in the middle, let's just get that out of the way now... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulitik Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I think that will change this year for sure.I agree. Hankerson is a tall target, and Hardy is great in traffic I think having 2 legit pass catching TEs in Tamme, and Moeaki will be a big help too. They aren't world beaters, but talented enough to keep defenses honest, and hopefully be enough of a concern to open things up for the run game, even if our RBs are a little undersized. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EJmusic Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I agree. Hankerson is a tall target, and Hardy is great in traffic I think having 2 legit pass catching TEs in Tamme, and Moeaki will be a big help too. They aren't world beaters, but talented enough to keep defenses honest, and hopefully be enough of a concern to open things up for the run game, even if our RBs are a little undersized. IF the Oline can be average this offense can be special. The Oline was average for games 1,3,8-15 last year. I have a feeling we will average a touchdown more just because of red zone efficiency. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blizzard_falcon Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 I agree. Hankerson is a tall target, and Hardy is great in traffic I think having 2 legit pass catching TEs in Tamme, and Moeaki will be a big help too. They aren't world beaters, but talented enough to keep defenses honest, and hopefully be enough of a concern to open things up for the run game, even if our RBs are a little undersized. As far as red zone offense goes:Hardy > DouglasHankerson > HesterTamme / Moeaki > ToiloloThe passing offense down inside the 20 should be much better, and I bet Shanahan will target Julio in the red zone a lot more often, too.I'm not so sure about the run game's effectiveness on the goal line and in short yardage situations, but I'm hoping Freeman/Coleman can prove me wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastside_bird Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 The line is basura so we're not running it in. No Tony G for the easy gimmes. Best bet is to lob it up for number 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Dog Named Brian Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Still not sure how we seemed to never just send Julio to the corner and put it up for him.I've been watching this team for a while, and it never really dawned on me until now that we have never done that with JJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 It's so sad to think that we will take our 6'8" TE OUT of the game when we need a score. Yet, that's where we are with Lolo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintsH8 Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 If we can run the ball in the red zone then I believe that we should get more tds. I'm just tired of seeing us stall when we get to the red zone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlfanstckndenver Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Honestly I'm just as excited about the potential red zone defense we can put together with this roster now too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I want to see what we have come preseason before I say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 RW/JJ/Hankerson bring size that can be effective in the red zone. I feel, as of now, that tight end and rb will be the biggest question. If we don't have a power run game in the red zone...we might settle for a lot of 3's Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B_Lo_Touchdowns Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 We where a great RZ team last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobby.Digital Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Fade/back shoulder to Julio Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 I mean, our offense wasn't really built to be a goal line/red zone dominant offense. It was supposed to mimic the greatest show on turf for the most part and have SJax as a battering ram and running threat. The new incarnation has Tamme who I have been a fan of for a long time. Still, I'll have a clue come preseason. I hate the way the offense is set up, but it is what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herr Doktor Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Two things. If we can run the ball we are gold. Secondly, if Tamme, Moeaki and Toilolo can have one set of decent hand between them, we open up many possibilities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 We where a great RZ team last year.SJax had 6tds...IIRC all in the red zone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuggle'2 Posted May 30, 2015 Author Share Posted May 30, 2015 I want to point out that I made sure to say Touchdowns and not points because yes, we have been decent at redzone scoring, just it was mostly 3pts and not so much 6pts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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