OC Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Anybody got anything on him, scouting-wise? He seems intriguing by his measurables and metrics alone. I think he has an outlying shot at making the team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MagnusXXIII Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Agreed. Weak draft for TEs. His measurables are solid though. Great verticle and respectable 40 and 3-cone for his size. Worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Really like his ball skills. He shows good hands and ability to win jump balls with body positioning. PS for sure unless he really performs and or Moeaki is not 100%. Moeaki has reached injury settlement each of the last two years. I hope he can get his body right though because he is a proven NFL player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 He is one of my favorite UDFA so far. I think he has a very good shot at the PS. Doubt he makes the roster though. His route running isn't great. He even attested to that. And blocking is going to be a question as well. I do like his speed, hands, and vertical. He can definitely threaten teams up the seam. Negative is that he is 26 years old already. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Weak TE draft class and he still didn't get drafted?Color me unimpressed and hoping to be surprised. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 He is one of my favorite UDFA so far. I think he has a very good shot at the PS. Doubt he makes the roster though. His route running isn't great. He even attested to that. And blocking is going to be a question as well. I do like his speed, hands, and vertical. He can definitely threaten teams up the seam. Negative is that he is 26 years old already. Well, he was off doing foreign missions for some of that time, so it's not like he he was accumulating the normal wear and tear. Also, this brings up a big question: How important is blocking for TEs in Kyle Shanahan's ZBS? Anybody know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted May 7, 2015 Share Posted May 7, 2015 Well, he was off doing foreign missions for some of that time, so it's not like he he was accumulating the normal wear and tear. Also, this brings up a big question: How important is blocking for TEs in Kyle Shanahan's ZBS? Anybody know?I know. I wasn't saying his age in relation to wear and tear. I am saying it in relation to his age. Its never a plus to be a 26 year old rookie. Not necessarily a bad thing always buts its never a good thing.Blocking is just as important in a ZBS, but it just doesn't require big mauler types going head up with a defensive player. So a guy who is not as accomplished blocker could be ok in a ZBS. He definitely shows the willingness to block and the nastiness, but he was graded out by college PFF stats as a poor blocker IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OC Posted May 7, 2015 Author Share Posted May 7, 2015 I know. I wasn't saying his age in relation to wear and tear. I am saying it in relation to his age. Its never a plus to be a 26 year old rookie. Not necessarily a bad thing always buts its never a good thing.Blocking is just as important in a ZBS, but it just doesn't require big mauler types going head up with a defensive player. So a guy who is not as accomplished blocker could be ok in a ZBS. He definitely shows the willingness to block and the nastiness, but he was graded out by college PFF stats as a poor blocker IIRC. We have highly regarded Quinn's ability to coach players up, and we should. But I can't help but wonder how that will translate to the offensive side as well. If it does, we might have the replacement TE we were looking for, especially if we put him on the PS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Afbf Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 I know. I wasn't saying his age in relation to wear and tear. I am saying it in relation to his age. Its never a plus to be a 26 year old rookie. Not necessarily a bad thing always buts its never a good thing.Blocking is just as important in a ZBS, but it just doesn't require big mauler types going head up with a defensive player. So a guy who is not as accomplished blocker could be ok in a ZBS. He definitely shows the willingness to block and the nastiness, but he was graded out by college PFF stats as a poor blocker IIRC. I should preface my comment with the fact that I met Beau one time and he was the coolest guy ever, so I'm really rooting for him (in other words, I'm biased).My understanding is that the PFF stats only consider games against FBS opponents, which would only be the first game of each season for Northern Arizona (usually against ASU or UofA). It's a pretty small pool to pull data from, but it does show that he's going to have to find a way to block against a higher level of competition. Hopefully he surprises us.Speaking of surprising, has anyone heard of the SPARQ rankings? It scores each prospect's athletic ability compared to the average athletic ability of current players at their position in the NFL. According to the below link, only 6 TE prospects this year have athletic abilities ABOVE the NFL average at TE. Beau is #3!http://3sigmaathlete.com/2015/04/12/post-combine-sparq-rankings-tight-end/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Anybody got anything on him, scouting-wise? He seems intriguing by his measurables and metrics alone. I think he has an outlying shot at making the team.Didn't really scout him, but I found highlights and his workout numbers. I was impressed. If he has a good head for the game, this could be the year he could break the line-up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rwhite84 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 (edited) What PFF said about him - "Beau Gardner, TE, Northern Arizona: Limited to just 46 snaps against FBS opposition where he earned a negative grade for run blocking, and caught just one ball for six yards.", not someone I see making our roster or even practice squad. Likely raw talent Quinn wanted to try out. Edited May 8, 2015 by Rwhite84 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The question is.....is he better than Tolo? I still like him in the endzone catching were he has height but doesn't run much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rwhite84 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 The question is.....is he better than Tolo? I still like him in the endzone catching were he has height but doesn't run much.Could he possibly be worse than Levine? I don't think so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hashbrown3 Posted May 8, 2015 Share Posted May 8, 2015 Anybody but Levine. Sorry, but that's how I feel. Unless Levine suddenly becomes someone who is a legit threat at TE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted May 29, 2015 Share Posted May 29, 2015 Matt Waldman had this to say about Beau...TE Beau Gardner, Atlanta: The Falcons did not get quality receiving production from Levine Toilolo last year. The big tight end from Stanford is a fine blocker, but more of an extra offensive lineman than a consistent receiving threat capable of stretching the seam or beating linebackers after the catch in the underneath zones of the field. Gardner, a product of Northern Arizona, fits the bill as a 6-4, 253-pound seam stretcher with excellent hands and toughness in the face of contact over the middle. Gardner is an older rookie; he's a Mormon and spent time away from football on a mission and enters the league as a 26-year-old. This will undoubtedly get the ageist demographic of the fantasy community in a tizzy, but it's wise to look at all the details of the player rather than applying wrong-headed, correlation-equals-causation logic to a player--especially when he's already a long shot as it is. What works in Gardner's favor is his athleticism. He ran a 4.74-second 40 and had a 41-inch vertical, which would have placed him third and first at these respective exercises at the combine. Combine this with Gardner's receiving skills and he could make the roster as a developmental project that can earn time sooner than later as a receiver in an offense that needs an inside presence to take pressure off its outside receivers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Did not know he was already 26. That makes taking chance putting him on PS that much easier if Moeaki is healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 Good to hear ^I like his game a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Day Hoe Posted May 30, 2015 Share Posted May 30, 2015 From drat insider...Bio: Junior-college transfer who finished with 28 receptions, 412 receiving yards and five TDs as a senior after 9 receptions for 102 yards the prior year. Graduated from high school in 2008 then went on a Mormon mission before resuming his football career at Mesa Community College. Will be 26 years old this December. Positive: Physically gifted tight end with a raw game. Fluid releasing off the line into pass routes, quick to top speed and consistently gets down the field to create mismatches in the secondary. Easily moves both laterally as well as in a straight line, consistently finds the clearing in the defense and looks the pass into his hands. Displays strong hands with the ability to pull the ball from the air and exposes himself to the big hit in order to come away with the reception. Keeps his head on a swivel and gives effort blocking. Negative: Average blocking strength and struggles to finish off opponents. Very limited production and does not have a big body of work on the college level. Does not always time his pass receptions properly. Analysis: Gardner is an athletic prospect who plays smart, tough football and comes with a good degree of upside potential. He'll need time before he's NFL ready but is on a short leash as he's entering the draft as an over aged prospect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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