I Even Bleed Red Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) "Grady Jarrett, DT, ClemsonDrafted: Atlanta Falcons, 137th overall (5th round)Analysis: Another defensive tackle who could have gone as high as the second round, Jarrett could wind up in a great situation playing for Dan Quinn. Some teams just don't want to look past his size, and that's a mistake that any ACC coach will tell you teams will regret. He can play in a variety of different sub-packages and can help right away getting pressure up the middle."http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000490933/article/2015-nfl-draft-sliders-teams-will-one-day-regret-passing-onLooks like everyone is saying the same thing about this kid. I'm more excited about keeping an eye on Coleman and Jarrett than other players we drafted.As a side note, shoulda drafted Randy Gregory in the 2nd round. When you can get the 2 best passrushers in any draft, you do it. Especially on this defense. That opportunity will not be there next year. Teams will have to pick between the 2 best passrushers.At any rate, I'm cautiously optimistic about this defense next season. Edited May 5, 2015 by I Even Bleed Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tandy Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Haha - just about to post this. I was editing it - and took a final look before posting. Good thing I looked and really Good to see one of our picks there!For the lazy: Grady Jarrett, DT, ClemsonDrafted: Atlanta Falcons, 137th overall (5th round)Analysis: Another defensive tackle who could have gone as high as the second round, Jarrett could wind up in a great situation playing for Dan Quinn. Some teams just don't want to look past his size, and that's a mistake that any ACC coach will tell you teams will regret. He can play in a variety of different sub-packages and can help right away getting pressure up the middle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theyhateme : ) Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Gregory is a little light in the pants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tribal Chief Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I can see it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Even Bleed Red Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Gregory is a little light in the pants.Lol come on stop with that man. The NFL sack leader last year with 22 f%&kig sacks is less than 20lbs heavier than Gregory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 For once we came out of an entire draft with value picks instead of reach picks.I was proud of TD for getting Hageman in the second last year and this year I'm proud of Piolitroff for staying put to get Beasley and getting Coleman and Jarrett at great value. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Even Bleed Red Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 Gregory is a little light in the pants.Unless, Collins is an outstanding CB, it's a mistake taking him over Gregory. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Randy Gregory is another. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jesus Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It's pretty simple really. You're sitting at the second round. You have a choice between Collins and Gregory. Both have off field issues. Both have had drug and bad decision making issues. Both have 1st round grades. Both might be the best at their position. You need help in both the secondary and the pass rush. In the first round you draft a pass rusher with great numbers and potential. You still have an issue in the secondary. You can take Gregory and he sits behind Beasley. Hardly will both be on the field at the same time. You don't draft Beasley at 8 and sit him behind your 2nd round pick. Collins has the height and speed you desire for the position but lacks polish. He can still be plugged in at CB2 or CB3 and succeed. In other words Collins has the opportunity to help the team now. Gregory will be log jammed in the position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngbloodz Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Gregory has problems that even his agent warned teams about. And quite frankly he isn't that good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoYouSeeWhatHappensLarry Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I get the argument for Gregory but the argument against Gregory is just as strong, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It's pretty simple really. You're sitting at the second round. You have a choice between Collins and Gregory. Both have off field issues. Both have had drug and bad decision making issues. Both have 1st round grades. Both might be the best at their position. You need help in both the secondary and the pass rush. In the first round you draft a pass rusher with great numbers and potential. You still have an issue in the secondary. You can take Gregory and he sits behind Beasley. Hardly will both be on the field at the same time. You don't draft Beasley at 8 and sit him behind your 2nd round pick. Collins has the height and speed you desire for the position but lacks polish. He can still be plugged in at CB2 or CB3 and succeed. In other words Collins has the opportunity to help the team now. Gregory will be log jammed in the position.agreed. Also, if I am taking two passrushers - I don't want BOTH of them to be undersized. I'm OK w/ Beasley being undersized but you gotta balance it out a little. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mid-Nite-Toker Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Gregory is a little light in the pants.Yep and he's a special needs guy.I think we did the right thing taking a chance on Collins.Loved our first 3 picks and Jarrett looks like a late round steal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takeitdown Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Good article. Wanted most of those guys, as did a lot of people here.That's why having extra mid round picks is so helpful. You can take who you planned on with your standard picks, and take falling players with your extra picks. An extra 5th, 6th, 7th could net you Ajayi, Bennett, Busta Anderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falkonator Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Don't got a link but on path to the draft they where talking about fav picks of each round. And both Hardy and Jarrett where picks for the 4th and 5th round by Charles Davis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AtlantaFanatic Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It's pretty simple really. You're sitting at the second round. You have a choice between Collins and Gregory. Both have off field issues. Both have had drug and bad decision making issues. Both have 1st round grades. Both might be the best at their position. You need help in both the secondary and the pass rush. In the first round you draft a pass rusher with great numbers and potential. You still have an issue in the secondary. You can take Gregory and he sits behind Beasley. Hardly will both be on the field at the same time. You don't draft Beasley at 8 and sit him behind your 2nd round pick. Collins has the height and speed you desire for the position but lacks polish. He can still be plugged in at CB2 or CB3 and succeed. In other words Collins has the opportunity to help the team now. Gregory will be log jammed in the position.Good post.Not a lot of 6'2" corners out there with first round grades sitting there at pick #42 so I think we made the right move. Quinn likes his tall, fast corners and we just got one. If this pick doesn't happen then you have Alford still playing outside (doesn't fit Quinn's defense) and your slot corner is either Allen, the dude we got in FA, or you force Southward into that spot and then you have no Safety. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vafalconfan Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Randy Gregory is another.I saw Gruden and Kiper grading some of his college tape in one of the pre-draft shows and he flashed at times, but he also got run on and sometimes the play would go right past him. Gruden said he would just run right at him if he was the OC facing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 It's pretty simple really. You're sitting at the second round. You have a choice between Collins and Gregory. Both have off field issues. Both have had drug and bad decision making issues. Both have 1st round grades. Both might be the best at their position. You need help in both the secondary and the pass rush. In the first round you draft a pass rusher with great numbers and potential. You still have an issue in the secondary. You can take Gregory and he sits behind Beasley. Hardly will both be on the field at the same time. You don't draft Beasley at 8 and sit him behind your 2nd round pick. Collins has the height and speed you desire for the position but lacks polish. He can still be plugged in at CB2 or CB3 and succeed. In other words Collins has the opportunity to help the team now. Gregory will be log jammed in the position.Sits behind Beasley? Why? Why not have one on one end and the other on another? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I saw Gruden and Kiper grading some of his college tape in one of the pre-draft shows and he flashed at times, but he also got run on and sometimes the play would go right past him. Gruden said he would just run right at him if he was the OC facing him.Was that Gregory's tape or Beasley's? Cause they said the same EXACT thing about Beasley. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Grady for president Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I Even Bleed Red Posted May 5, 2015 Author Share Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) agreed. Also, if I am taking two passrushers - I don't want BOTH of them to be undersized. I'm OK w/ Beasley being undersized but you gotta balance it out a little.I disagree. You can never have too much speed on the defense. Attacking the QB from both sides is what makes for a lot of pressure.Whatever, I think we may trade for Irvin - that'll negate us not having Gregory. Maybe that's the plan to start with, and I'm missing the big picture? Edited May 5, 2015 by I Even Bleed Red Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Gregory has problems that even his agent warned teams about. And quite frankly he isn't that goodReally? Did you watch his speed and strength? That is something that is God's given. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sidecar Falcon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Lol come on stop with that man. The NFL sack leader last year with 22 f%&kig sacks is less than 20lbs heavier than Gregory.23 lbs to be exact. Compliment that with mental and character issues and it's a miracle he was drafted as high as he was. Would have taken a shot at him in the 3rd if he lasted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 I saw Gruden and Kiper grading some of his college tape in one of the pre-draft shows and he flashed at times, but he also got run on and sometimes the play would go right past him. Gruden said he would just run right at him if he was the OC facing him.Well I will tell you this - Gruden is not a Vic Beasley fan, either - for the same reason. He was highly critical of Atlanta's pick @ #8.Personally, Beasley is so good at passrushing, I can put up with him being a little bit of a liability against the run. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flying Falcon Posted May 5, 2015 Share Posted May 5, 2015 Well I will tell you this - Gruden is not a Vic Beasley fan, either - for the same reason. He was highly critical of Atlanta's pick @ #8.Personally, Beasley is so good at passrushing, I can put up with him being a little bit of a liability against the run.Yep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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