The Real Tony G. Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 There has been talk of moving him to CB but I think that started earlier in the draft process. It kept our options open in case we couldn't find the CB we wanted and/or could find the FS. Now that we have Collins(and King) at CB, Southward should be at FS to stay. He may have been overdrafted according to predraft rankings last year, but he's still a 3rd round pick who fits what Quinn is looking for to a T. Tall, fast, and athletic. If we drafted him as the same prospect he was in the 5th this year then I think we'd see the FS position as "addressed" and believe he's our future at that spot. Instead, he's got a year of experience under his belt with us but FS is still being considered a hole. Why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Francis York Morgan Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Was going to come in with a snarky "because Quinn is making him a CB" but you covered your bases. I wouldn't mind seeing him there, just don't know if Quinn wants it. I'm actually really looking forward to Godfrey. He was great before the injury. Should be fully recovered. That dude is rangy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtybird56 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Just comes down to his coverage skills. I haven't watched his tape from last season so not sure how good he is both in his technique and how his instincts are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
abcranford2 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Actually southward fits Quinn's cb profile more than he does fs. I think Alford fits what he's looking for more at fs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Pretty much agreed. I think its between him and Godfrey. I hope Alford gets an opportunity to at least try it out there, but i'm not sure if that happens.The only reason there is for not deeming him the future at FS is because he hasn't proven anything yet. He played some last year, but he didn't prove to anyone that he should be the starter. So i understand it. But i don't understand the people writing him off as if he is a CB now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Pretty much agreed. I think its between him and Godfrey. I hope Alford gets an opportunity to at least try it out there, but i'm not sure if that happens.The only reason there is for not deeming him the future at FS is because he hasn't proven anything yet. He played some last year, but he didn't prove to anyone that he should be the starter. So i understand it. But i don't understand the people writing him off as if he is a CB now. If that's the case, what did Freeman or Hageman prove?I think Alford could play FS too, but I'm not ready to write him off from CB either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 If that's the case, what did Freeman or Hageman prove?I think Alford could play FS too, but I'm not ready to write him off from CB either.We just drafted Coleman so obviously Freeman wasn't given the starting job...Who said anything about Hage? We still don't know how the snaps are going to play out. What percentage we will run base or nickel etc. So from what you saw from him last year, you are 100% convinced that he should be the FS over Godfrey or Alford (if given the opportunity)? I'm not. Let them compete.I do agree that he shouldn't be talked about as just a CB though. Thats premature talk in my opinion. Not that he can't, but its too early to say he will be a CB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 We just drafted Coleman so obviously Freeman wasn't given the starting job...Who said anything about Hage? We still don't know how the snaps are going to play out. What percentage we will run base or nickel etc. So from what you saw from him last year, you are 100% convinced that he should be the FS over Godfrey or Alford (if given the opportunity)? I'm not. Let them compete.I do agree that he shouldn't be talked about as just a CB though. Thats premature talk in my opinion. Not that he can't, but its too early to say he will be a CB. Freeman and Hageman were handed starting jobs by (seemingly) most of the boards before the draft despite not showing anything more than Southward on the field last season.I wholeheartedly agree to let them compete, I just think South will win the job. We will allegedly have open competition for every position, but that doesn't mean that position is a hole that needs to be filled, especially when the likely winner of that spot will be a 3rd round pick in his 2nd year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Was going to come in with a snarky "because Quinn is making him a CB" but you covered your bases. I wouldn't mind seeing him there, just don't know if Quinn wants it. I'm actually really looking forward to Godfrey. He was great before the injury. Should be fully recovered. That dude is rangy.You think Godfrey will beat South out at FS straight up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarod_Briggs2 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 You think Godfrey will beat South out at FS straight up? Yes. In time Southward might be a player and it was a very small sample size but I didn't really like him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Yes. In time Southward might be a player and it was a very small sample size but I didn't really like him.What didn't you like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Califalcon0013 Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Ishmael player better Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sponge Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Ishmael player betterBoth are about the same to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheldon Cooper Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 Southward does well carrying a WR deep outside. He lacks the lateral agility to come up on the slot as FS or CB. 4.3 speed best outside. Akeem King is same.Alford is 13 pds less than ET same height. Alf will hit and has ball skills but might need to add some bulk or UDFA Robenson Therezie could push beyond #2 FS.Alf worked in off season with safety Ryan Clark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Tony G. Posted May 3, 2015 Author Share Posted May 3, 2015 Ishmael player betterIsh is a SS/big NB. Has good ball skills but can't play deep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romfal Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 no real reason, as long as he can handle the solo high role with all the schemes and terminology. He is definitely fast enough. I think a lot of people just view Alford as a more developed player, so they are pushing for that move. Everything is speculation until training camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dozer Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Falcons 2014 third-round pick Dez Southward practiced at cornerback during the team's pre-draft minicamp.The 68th overall pick in last year's draft, Southward had a disappointing rookie season at safety, failing to beat out Kemal Ishmael for snaps. Southward stands 6-foot, 211 and is wildly athletic. In ex-Seahawks DC Dan Quinn's Cover 3, Southward could make for an intriguing press-corner prospect. That need was lessened, however, when Atlanta drafted CB Jalen Collins on Friday night.Source: Vaughn McClure on Twitter May 3 - 7:40 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Hopefully he is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOYLE Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 The good thing about all this is that we are gettinglonger and faster players to pick from. I have longbeen an advocate of taller DB's. I was glad to see Grimes go at the time. I was wrong. He is an exception to the trend of short corners and safetiesbecoming ever more incapable of covering the giraffe-likereceivers that are coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 (edited) They already have too many 6'2" CB/FS tweeners.... Seahawks drafted FS Earl Thomas in the 1st round...He was a FS in college.. Pitching scheme from other teams without those players that made it work won't work.... If he's a FS..Kepp him there, and let the others play CB....Also said that Weatehrspoon was the perfect fit at OLB..Brooks Reed won't be an SOLB because I doubt that will be cover TEs and RBs aout of the backfield...He will be the "Leo..." Edited May 4, 2015 by Rise Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mtldirtybird Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 1 reason - his zone coverage. His man and turn and run skills are his best assets along with his length and strength. All of a sudden were really deep and talented at CB. Trus a beast and Collins and Dez could be monsters in press. Throw in Alford who many are down on, I for one am not. Still tremendous faith in him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rise Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 1 reason - his zone coverage. His man and turn and run skills are his best assets along with his length and strength. All of a sudden were really deep and talented at CB. Trus a beast and Collins and Dez could be monsters in press. Throw in Alford who many are down on, I for one am not. Still tremendous faith in him. Southward will be that FS--in competition with Godfrey.... unless they plan to convert one of their rookie hybrids..The staff thought about it, but I think he's the one..He is very smart and articulate..They staff probably doesn't want someone who can't handle calls back there.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Precyse Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Because theres a possibility that he'll be a corner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE ICEMAN Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 There has been talk of moving him to CB but I think that started earlier in the draft process. It kept our options open in case we couldn't find the CB we wanted and/or could find the FS. Now that we have Collins(and King) at CB, Southward should be at FS to stay.He may have been overdrafted according to predraft rankings last year, but he's still a 3rd round pick who fits what Quinn is looking for to a T. Tall, fast, and athletic. If we drafted him as the same prospect he was in the 5th this year then I think we'd see the FS position as "addressed" and believe he's our future at that spot. Instead, he's got a year of experience under his belt with us but FS is still being considered a hole. Why?in theory quinn wants a guy who can play both CB and FS like earl thomas King and collins can both do that were as southward probably fits better as a SS not a FS his instincts aren't that great and his coverage ability is below average but he is big fast and psychical like quinn wants and like moore can bring the hammer.hes raw he has the skills to be very good but needs a lot of development to get to that pointi could see alford playing FS as he has great instincts and is not afraid to tackle or come up and play the run he's just not that 6-3 220 lb thumper quinn would want but thomas wasn't that either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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