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Draft Grades: When Amateurs Grade Professionals On The Extent To Which The Actions Of Latter Mirror The Opinions Of The Former.


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I posted this last year when we were getting hammered, so I need to post it this year when we are getting praised.

Still, I am happy to join everyone else in my excitement about our picks this year.

Just as in baseball, hope springs eternal.

Go Falcons!

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Draft Grades: When Amateurs Grade Professionals On The Extent To Which The Actions Of Latter Mirror The Opinions Of The Former.

Translation: The amateurs think they're smarter than the professionals except when the professionals agree with them.

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I don't quite understand the point you're making here; we're not allowed to have opinions because we don't get paid to have them? Or am I missing something.

Think he's talking about the silliness of Kiper, for instance, grading a draft.

Kiper, in theory, has less knowledge than the NFL GMs, and so is starting with a worse data set (big board.)

Then, the draft doesn't go as expected, because Kiper's board was bad.

But then, instead of Kiper saying "wow, they saw something I didn't," he proceeds to grade the professionals according to his board as if it were the gospel, instead of as if they were onto something.

Questioning is half the point of these boards. But the compounding error of the draft gurus is sort of wackadoo.

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Think he's talking about the silliness of Kiper, for instance, grading a draft.

Kiper, in theory, has less knowledge than the NFL GMs, and so is starting with a worse data set (big board.)

Then, the draft doesn't go as expected, because Kiper's board was bad.

But then, instead of Kiper saying "wow, they saw something I didn't," he proceeds to grade the professionals according to his board as if it were the gospel, instead of as if they were onto something.

Questioning is half the point of these boards. But the compounding error of the draft gurus is sort of wackadoo.

I guess I get that, but on the flip side these writers wouldn't have much to do if they just said 'I guess they know more than me.' They should stand by their pre-draft rankings, if they decided they should make them in the first place.

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Think he's talking about the silliness of Kiper, for instance, grading a draft.

Kiper, in theory, has less knowledge than the NFL GMs, and so is starting with a worse data set (big board.)

Then, the draft doesn't go as expected, because Kiper's board was bad.

But then, instead of Kiper saying "wow, they saw something I didn't," he proceeds to grade the professionals according to his board as if it were the gospel, instead of as if they were onto something.

Questioning is half the point of these boards. But the compounding error of the draft gurus is sort of wackadoo.

This^ is exactly what he was saying.Draft grades are really pointless when you think about who's grading whom.
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I guess I get that, but on the flip side these writers wouldn't have much to do if they just said 'I guess they know more than me.' They should stand by their pre-draft rankings, if they decided they should make them in the first place.

I don't think the premise was that they shouldn't do it but just not to read too much into the grades.
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I don't think the premise was they shouldn't do it but just not to read to much into the grades.

Agreed. It's fun. But it's good to keep in mind how the rankings go.

Since I'm still a pretty big believer in the average of 35 different boards being pretty accurate, I like to see how people drafted for value...I just don't take any specific big board comparison that seriously.

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I don't quite understand the point you're making here; we're not allowed to have opinions because we don't get paid to have them? Or am I missing something.

Think he's talking about the silliness of Kiper, for instance, grading a draft.

Kiper, in theory, has less knowledge than the NFL GMs, and so is starting with a worse data set (big board.)

Then, the draft doesn't go as expected, because Kiper's board was bad.

But then, instead of Kiper saying "wow, they saw something I didn't," he proceeds to grade the professionals according to his board as if it were the gospel, instead of as if they were onto something.

Questioning is half the point of these boards. But the compounding error of the draft gurus is sort of wackadoo.

This^ is exactly what he was saying.Draft grades are really pointless when you think about who's grading whom.

First, go to 3:40 . . . .

Thank you, Jpowers and Takeitdown. You are expressing exactly what my point is, cryptic though it may be.

As folks are saying, it's fine to express an opinion. But the reality is that TD and the braintrust BETTER have more information than the writers or us. And, they BETTER be better at their jobs. On the Board, everyone is going to express an opinion because that's what we are here to do.

And I'm fine with that. I do it too. But even for us, it is a little silly if you accept that they are better at this AND have more data. But for the writers to assign GRADES before (as Falconscheff pointed out) anyone has even put on a jersey, much less played a meaningful down is the height of arrogance. The ONLY thing they can grade on is how much the teams have drafted in accordance with the writer's assessment.

It's still fun, of course, but no one should put too much stock in it.

And thanks again Takeitdown, JPowers, and I think a couple of others. ( "What Gus is saying is . . . ") You pegged me.

All that being said . . . the folks criticizing our draft last year turned out to be right. Let's hope the folks applauding us this year are right again.

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Great title; just because a few mental midgets don't get it doesn't mean it isn't spot on.

Calling them mental midgets because they see it differently than NFL talent people is not exactly true. Only about 50% of the picks the experts make in the 1st round will work out. As far as how we done last year ask me at the end of this year. If you really want to know how we did this year ask at the end of 2016.

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First, go to 3:40 . . . .

Thank you, Jpowers and Takeitdown. You are expressing exactly what my point is, cryptic though it may be.

As folks are saying, it's fine to express an opinion. But the reality is that TD and the braintrust BETTER have more information than we do, or the writers. And, they BETTER be better at their jobs. On the Board, everyone is going to express an opinion because that's what we are here to do.

And I'm fine with that. I do it too. But even for us, it is a little silly if you accept that they are better at this AND have more data. But for the writers to assign GRADES before (as Falconscheff pointed out) anyone has even put on a jersey, much less played a meaningful down is the height of arrogance. The ONLY thing they can grade on is how much the teams have drafted in accordance with the writer's assessment.

It's still fun, of course, but no one should put too much stock in it.

And thanks, again, Takeitdown and JPowers!!! (and I think a couple of others. ( "What Gus is saying is . . . ") You pegged me.

All that being said . . . the folks criticizing our draft last year turned out to be right. Let's hope the folks applauding us this year are right again.

Ha!That is PERFECT for this thread.
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