MSalmon Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Seems the lord almighty had pity on us and we got our athletic edge rusher in Vic Beasley. It had to be hard to sit still in that war room until number 8--but TD/Pioli did a great job.These are how I see our positions that need upgrading or in need of an infusion of talent:1) edge rusher--never have enough 2) Safety (Either spot really)3) Running back4) Linebacker (maybe swapped with running back)5) Left Guard (maybe higher, but could be mid round with zbs)--NOTE: maybe LG solution is on roster?Other minor holes:1) TE---minor because I'm not sold that we need an elite TE..more a good one that can catch and block...tamme also fills that hole short term. If Moeaki is healthy--we're golden2) WR--I think Hankerson with Ryan as QB may end up being a great signing. Still, it's a good draft to get a talented WR late3) Base DE--you know the bigger stout guy on the left side...goodman is someone to consider and we have TJax...but this could still be an area we at least add depth. A healthy Clayborn may be fine as wellWith our biggest need out of the way (and arguably the hardest need to fill!) , I'm looking at the players available in the second round and salivating a bit--great talent still out there. The top guys for me in the second are as follows:4) CB--could be a higher need depending on whether they view Dez as a cb or notEDGE/DE:1) Gregory (in the second? Why not)2) Diggy from UCLA3) Preston Smith4) Eli Harold5) Danielle Hunter6) Nate OrchardFolks, there is a glut of good edge rushers available. Someone will be there in the third as wellDBs:1) Landon Collins2) josh shaw (could be cb as well)3) Quentin Rollins4) Eric Rowe5) Ronald Darby6) Jalen CollinsThis is an interesting list as most on here could line up as FS or cb in Quinn's schemeOL:1) Jake Fisher2) Donavan Smith3) TJ Clemmings4) Marpet--much shorter list, but all listed could be LGs or RTsRBs:1) Ajayi --he's slipping I bet2) Coleman3) Yeldon4) Duke Johnson5) Abdullah DL (bigger guys who play 5 tech, NT,base DE or DT):1) Mario Edwards2) Jordan Phillips3) Carl DavisLB1) Kendricks2) McKinney3) perryman There are a ton of WRs. Unless we. Took chance on DGB, I'm not sure we go WR in second. TEs are unimpressive tbhOf my board I rank Safety, G and LB as least deep in talent :My board is as follows:1) Gregory --if you feel you can handle the character concerns, he's still a first round guy in a hard position to fill. Having Beasly mitigates risk if he's ever suspended . Boom or bust guy2) Landin Collins:--Landon is a great talent at S 3) Eli Harold--long pass rusher who's a mad man flying around the field 4) Fisher:--highly Athletic OL in a zbs. Can definitely man LG or RT5) McKinney--stout run defender with great length and some pass rush ability6) Carl Davis--humongous man-child with size and athleticism 7) Yeldon--every down back with size and burst. 8) Diggy--muscular athletic DE who's athletic enough to stand up9) Kendricks--will and chase backer that flys all over the field10) Eric Rowe-- Rangy defender who I think is a FSYour top ten? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 (edited) That's a great list. I still think Ryan needs that safety valve TE so I would add Max Williams in the mix, but would be happy with any of those on your list.Shocked Gregory and Collins are still there. If either still there by our 2nd pick (unlikely, but crazier things...) we'd have 2 Top 15 talents from this draft! Not a proponent of trading up, but I would to get either of those two. That would be crazy good Edited May 1, 2015 by Vandy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 That's a great list. I still think Ryan needs that safety valve TE so I would add Max Williams in the mix, but would be happy with any of those on your list.Shocked Gregory and Collins are still there. If either still there (unlikely, but crazier things...) we'd have 2 Top 15 talents from this draft! Not a proponent of trading up, but I would to get either of those two. That would be crazy goodI like Max but tbh I think I'd rather Walford in the third or fourthAgree. I hated Gregory at 8, but in the second? In all for trading up to nab him. He's a definite first round talent.I love Landon greatly, but and I can't believe I'm saying this, I'd trade up and get Gregory. Two athletic pass rushers is a rare commodity on a teamWow! That hurt swung I'd draft Gregory over Collins lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandy Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I like Max but tbh I think I'd rather Walford in the third or fourthAgree. I hated Gregory at 8, but in the second? In all for trading up to nab him. He's a definite first round talent.I love Landon greatly, but and I can't believe I'm saying this, I'd trade up and get Gregory. Two athletic pass rushers is a rare commodity on a teamWow! That hurt swung I'd draft Gregory over Collins lolI bet it did!I was wrong on Gregory, I thought for sure he'd go top 13...kid must have really FU his interviews, he is IMO a Top 5 talent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 I bet it did!I was wrong on Gregory, I thought for sure he'd go top 13...kid must have really FU his interviews, he is IMO a Top 5 talentLol...I agree. Something really turned off teams...I didn't see top 5 but certainly top 15-20Another player I kinda like is Bernardick McKinney. He's so rugged and physical. Something we lack in our LB corps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Love to see the Falcons trade back a few slots, pick up an 3rd rounder, extra 3rd rounder in this draft is a very good thing.My guess is they go RB, just a guess, don't even know who. Assumes they like somebody already on the roster to man the LG spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dmo_dlo Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 1- Gregory2- Clemmings3- Rowe4- Diggy5- Fisher6- Rollins7- Smith8- Harold9- Collins10- Strong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Love to see the Falcons trade back a few slots, pick up an 3rd rounder, extra 3rd rounder in this draft is a very good thing.My guess is they go RB, just a guess, don't even know who. Assumes they like somebody already on the roster to man the LG spot.Personally, I'd be good with trade up or down. Sounds crazy but only a few left --Landon Collins and Gregory--are first round talents that slipped. The rest are good players but are 2nd and third round talents..maje sense? In other words the gap of talent is pretty even past Collins and Gregory..which means we get a good player whether we stay put or go backPart of me really wants to roll the dice, drop back and grab either McKinney or Carl Davis ...two different positions, but both are physical and kinda nasty guys with good athleticism. Add some dog to our defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Personally, I'd be good with trade up or down. Sounds crazy but only a few left --Landon Collins and Gregory--are first round talents that slipped. The rest are good players but are 2nd and third round talents..maje sense? In other words the gap of talent is pretty even past Collins and Gregory..which means we get a good player whether we stay put or go backPart of me really wants to roll the dice, drop back and grab either McKinney or Carl Davis ...two different positions, but both are physical and kinda nasty guys with good athleticism. Add some dog to our defense.Would be leery of spending a pick to move up for either Collins or Gregory-there's a reason they're sitting there in the 2nd round, and we don't know what it is. Taking either with 42 makes more sense- the 2nd round equivalent of what they did in first round- staying put in the first round and letting the player drop.Love the idea of dropping back and picking up an extra pick or two.Think they have to go offense- almost all the draft picks and FA last two years have been defense- got to give players like Maponga, Shembo, Southward, Ishmael and others a chance.Taking a RB at 42 makes so much more sense than one at 8. I know the idea of taking a 4-6 rounder, would rather make sure they got a stud myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atlantafan21 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 That linebacker list needs Paul Dawson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Would be leery of spending a pick to move up for either Collins or Gregory-there's a reason they're sitting there in the 2nd round, and we don't know what it is. Taking either with 42 makes more sense- the 2nd round equivalent of what they did in first round- staying put in the first round and letting the player drop.Love the idea of dropping back and picking up an extra pick or two.Think they have to go offense- almost all the draft picks and FA last two years have been defense- got to give players like Maponga, Shembo, Southward, Ishmael and others a chance.Taking a RB at 42 makes so much more sense than one at 8. I know the idea of taking a 4-6 rounder, would rather make sure they got a stud myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Return of the Gaucho Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 I really get the feeling that Gregory is completely off many teams boards. I know they do psyche screenings in the pre-draft process, and I know no front office person would ever comment about the results of that (HIPAA and all that), but it seems like his talent should not have slid past so many teams without some serious red flags. I wouldn't trade up for him, but if he is there at the pick, I would have to consider it if the scouts thought he was workable in the NFL.I still think safety is the next biggest concern on the roster. I would like Collins, but I understand the worry that he doesn't have the range to play FS in Quinn's system. If that is something that the team thinks as well, then Rowe would be an excellent pick.The wildcard to me is the tackle from Oregon, Fisher. He seems like a first round talent, and having bookend tackles for the next 10 years sounds wonderful. Plus, he would be playing next to Asamoah which should only help his transition into the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
primetime Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Grab Collins now and a Rb in the third. I love Moore but it does allow us to release him if he doesn't regain his pro bowl form and get over his injuries. Collins and Ish can lock down the Kam C role for the next decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Would be leery of spending a pick to move up for either Collins or Gregory-there's a reason they're sitting there in the 2nd round, and we don't know what it is. Taking either with 42 makes more sense- the 2nd round equivalent of what they did in first round- staying put in the first round and letting the player drop.Love the idea of dropping back and picking up an extra pick or two.Think they have to go offense- almost all the draft picks and FA last two years have been defense- got to give players like Maponga, Shembo, Southward, Ishmael and others a chance.Taking a RB at 42 makes so much more sense than one at 8. I know the idea of taking a 4-6 rounder, would rather make sure they got a stud myself.Good point on both Collins and Gregory. I'm assuming a run on other positions and worries about certain scheme fits pushed Collins down. Gregory--well we all know at least a big part of the reason he fellIf I were GM, and I'm not lol, I'd add someone tough and physical in second be it offense or defense. Just a tough dude. It might be a rb, S, LB, DL or OL. Just a dog that's gonna smack someone in the face.Yeldon to me is intriguing. Watch him run and he's physical and got burst. Collins, assuming he dropped due to run on positions is interesting as he's just a big hitter that sets the toneIf we could gain a third by dropping back, I think I'd go thus way:2nd round: Yeldon3rd round: Dawson3 rd round: Donavan Smith or Chaz Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluedawg 1 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 ILB Perrymen or safety Landin CollinsWould be nice to get 1 of these ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.U.N.n.G.U.N.2 Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Owamagbe Odighizuwa should be our guy. He's big, fast, violent, and has a nonstop motor. He has the tools to be a star. I like Devin Smith and Eric Kendricks as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaptain Krazy Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Because of the way the 1st round shook out, the Falcons a 42 are in the same position they were last night at 8: talent at multiple positions of need, so it's easy to make a great pick. If their is a willing partner (always the toughest part), trading back to snag an additional 3rd rounder and potentially ending up with 4 of the top 100 picks becomes the more difficult question.FS or OL seem to make the most sense if they stay at 42. RB and WR are both depth needs, but talent can likely be acquired in the 3rd or even 4th round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
falconidae Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Good point on both Collins and Gregory. I'm assuming a run on other positions and worries about certain scheme fits pushed Collins down. Gregory--well we all know at least a big part of the reason he fellIf I were GM, and I'm not lol, I'd add someone tough and physical in second be it offense or defense. Just a tough dude. It might be a rb, S, LB, DL or OL. Just a dog that's gonna smack someone in the face.Yeldon to me is intriguing. Watch him run and he's physical and got burst.Collins, assuming he dropped due to run on positions is interesting as he's just a big hitter that sets the toneIf we could gain a third by dropping back, I think I'd go thus way:2nd round: Yeldon3rd round: Dawson3 rd round: Donavan Smith or Chaz GreenAgree with the toughness idea, going to be exciting to see what they do. They've set themselves up nicely with FA- LB isn't as desperate a need as it was before FA, same with TE.Personally want a RB because I want a 2nd rounder to do for the Falcons what Lacey and Bell did for their teams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 Agree with the toughness idea, going to be exciting to see what they do. They've set themselves up nicely with FA- LB isn't as desperate a need as it was before FA, same with TE.Personally want a RB because I want a 2nd rounder to do for the Falcons what Lacey and Bell did for their teams.It wouldn't break my heart to see a Yeldon picked in second round. Of course, another pass rusher ain't bad. Either lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeRom Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 How does Quinn see roles for Clayborn and other FA's when picking rounds 2 thru 4. He may see our other edge guy from players already on the team. Can't see another edge rusher in next 3 picks when we can plug other holes with the likes of Collins, Marpet(or best guard available), Paul Dawson/Kendricks, and Ajayi/Yeldon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSalmon Posted May 1, 2015 Author Share Posted May 1, 2015 How does Quinn see roles for Clayborn and other FA's when picking rounds 2 thru 4. He may see our other edge guy from players already on the team. Can't see another edge rusher in next 3 picks when we can plug other holes with the likes of Collins, Marpet(or best guard available), Paul Dawson/Kendricks, and Ajayi/Yeldon.Clayborn is a LDE. Reed a SLB who can move inside. Kroy could or could not survive last cuts. Needs are great, but pass rush is a valuable commodity..and it would make sense on some level if the Falcons chose to add to their rotation--emphasis on rotation.Maponga isn't assured a roster spot, either. And goodman is another LDE type. Schofield is a rotation guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 That's a great list. I still think Ryan needs that safety valve TE so I would add Max Williams in the mix, but would be happy with any of those on your list.I was told that a higher up in an AFC org said that they as well as a lot of other teams think we're dialed in on him in the 2nd. We'll see I guess, not sure I'd want to take a TE that high but Roddy is getting up there and we will need a target other than Julio to go to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pacific_Falcon Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Between Dez and Ish, do we really need a safety THAT bad, compared to a LG or ILB? Like the prospects, just think I might have a different priority ranking than you, and would probably look at Cobb at RB. I haven't watched Collins at all, but if the rumors are true that Quinn is looking at Dez to move to CB and Collins has the range to be a good FS, it makes sense. It's hard to really say what are needs are in someways because we don't really know what to expect in terms of who Quinn is going to play well, or what he saw on tape from our guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSmackDaddy Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 Eli Harold would be my choice if he makes it to our pick. Danielle Hunter would be a good pick too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steel City Falcon Posted May 1, 2015 Share Posted May 1, 2015 1. Randy Gregory2. Landon Collins3.Eddie Goldman4. Denzel Perryman5. Eli Harold6. TJ Clemmings7. AJ Cann8. Maxx Williams9. Eric Rowe10. Sammie Coats Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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