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I can not see how any team could spend a top 10 pick in the draft on a situational pass rush specialist. There are no Bruce Smith's or Reggie Whites in this draft, only Osi U's. If you don't have the size to stay on the field for 3 downs, you shouldn't be drafted that high at least not at the DE position. The only guy I see that might be able to play 3 downs is Bud Dupree. This defense is not predicated on setting up one guy to get to the QB. Either trade up for Leonard Williams, or trade back for extra picks and get one of the situational pass rushers later but I will be very disappointed if they spend that high pick on a 1 tool player. Just my opinion but I'm sure the folks that would've had us signing Greg Hardy or trading picks for Dion Jordan will straighten me out on that subject!

Happy draft day everyone. Hope it turns out as well as the movie!

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It's a legitimate concern, for sure. While the sack potential is there, these guys leave you with questions when it comes the rest of their games. Aside from Williams, who I firmly believe in. Of course, it's just fantasy to think he's going to be there for us.

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Trading back is going to be very difficult. The strength of the draft is depth, which every team knows. Other than Winston/Mariota or Cooper/White, there doesn't seem to be a position that will attract other teams to trade up. Teams that want those players will likely have to trade up higher than #8

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It's a legitimate concern, for sure. While the sack potential is there, these guys leave you with questions when it comes the rest of their games. Aside from Williams, who I firmly believe in. Of course, it's just fantasy to think he's going to be there for us

Having LB's that can cover the short zones takes away the open secondary receivers that allow the QB to get the ball away and avoid sacks and pressure mistakes. Last year QB's had anything they wanted in the 5 to 12 yard area. You could put whomever you want at LEO and if there are dump offs readily available, you won't get sacks. I suppose it's a chicken or egg argument but in the NFL there's way more important things to pressuring and sacking QB's than just the ability of a single player at DE.

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Having LB's that can cover the short zones takes away the open secondary receivers that allow the QB to get the ball away and avoid sacks and pressure mistakes. Last year QB's had anything they wanted in the 5 to 12 yard area. You could put whomever you want at LEO and if there are dump offs readily available, you won't get sacks. I suppose it's a chicken or egg argument but in the NFL there's way more important things to pressuring and sacking QB's than just the ability of a single player at DE.

Last year? You mean last decade, lol.

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Osi had 85 career sacks. No slouch there. Situational pass rushers are what defenses are built on nowadays. Guys like white and smith were anomalies. Heck Clowney was supposed to be the next White. See how that turned out...

If a guy has 16 sacks, that's a pro bowl season. That's one play per game. I know....it's about the pressures and all the blocking schemes that have to account for him and etc. but if i can pull my guard and blow him out of the c gap on run downs, you can't keep him on the field without altering your defense to cover for the weakness. That makes you vulnerable in multiple areas. When he comes on to the field, and it's 4 yards or less for the first down, you just put outside run back into my arsenal and when you bring the safety or WLB down to cover for that, I have that covered too. In my opinion any player on defense with a definable weakness can and will be targeted no matter how athletic they are. In the NFL they don't just run plays. They design plays to attack your weaknesses. I hate to see any player with a definable weakness in his game go in the top of the draft.

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I just want to get two quality players out of the draft.i dont understand how we always have of these picks and we get one true starter and the rest are like special team players.The last time we got two starters were ryan and blaylock out of the draft.Besides ryan white julio mattheews trufant the rest or rotational players.Give me two players that can start game 1 and be impact players.

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Osi had 85 career sacks. No slouch there. Situational pass rushers are what defenses are built on nowadays. Guys like white and smith were anomalies. Heck Clowney was supposed to be the next White. See how that turned out...

It gets really tiresome to read you guys calling Clowney a bust, since he hardly played due to injury. Let the kid get in some healthy playing time first. You have no clue how it will turn out for him.

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It gets really tiresome to read you guys calling Clowney a bust, since he hardly played due to injury. Let the kid get in some healthy playing time first. You have no clue how it will turn out for him.

The Clown Dog will make a living being injured. Big $$$$$......no work. That's who he is.

I prefer FOOTBALL PLAYERS.

Real one's.

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Don't get me wrong, situational pass rushers are nice to have for just that, certain situations but don't use a top 10 pick for one. It's like the home run hitter that strikes out 160 times a season. They're nice to have when you need runs in bunches but can you deal with the strikeouts in 1-0 games with runners in scoring position?

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I just want to get two quality players out of the draft.i dont understand how we always have of these picks and we get one true starter and the rest are like special team players.The last time we got two starters were ryan and blaylock out of the draft.Besides ryan white julio mattheews trufant the rest or rotational players.Give me two players that can start game 1 and be impact players.

Ryan & Blalock weren't in the same draft class. You meant Baker I assume?

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Osi had 85 career sacks. No slouch there. Situational pass rushers are what defenses are built on nowadays. Guys like white and smith were anomalies. Heck Clowney was supposed to be the next White. See how that turned out...

Osi had 85 sacks in 11 years!

Now I didn't make the Osi reference to infer that he wasn't a good player by any means it was to differentiate an excellent situational pass rusher from an all around DE that has pass rush skills. The post is about whether it's worth picking a situational guy at #8 in the draft. Many think it is and many think some of these guys can be coached up at 240lbs. to stop the run. I respect those opinions but I have to disagree.

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The Clown Dog will make a living being injured. Big $$$$$......no work. That's who he is.I prefer FOOTBALL PLAYERS.Real one's.

I'm just stating facts. The quoted statements were in a context that his career is static after spending most of one season injured. It's asinine.

Edit: I deleted a lot of the first thing I had posted, because I felt like it read badly. Obviously, we all like players and don't for whatever reason. I just don't think a rookie, especially an injured one, should be given a final grade.

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