g-dawg Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 As Shane Ray’s stock plummets, talk that he could fall to Round 4Posted by Michael David Smith on April 28, 2015, 9:23 AM EDTGetty ImagesJust a few weeks ago, stories about Missouri pass rusher Shane Ray routinely called him apotential Top 5 pick. That now feels like a long time ago.Ray’s draft stock began to fall when teams showed increasing concern about a foot injury he suffered in the final game of his college career, and now his stock has plummeted so severely that there’s talk that Ray not only won’t go in the first round, but might not even go in the second or third rounds. According to former Buccaneers General Manager Mark Dominik, Ray’s recent marijuana citation makes it possible that Ray won’t be drafted until the fourth round.“This changes Shane Ray dramatically because it’s, to me, such a poor decision this close to the draft. It’s the decision making. What is this guy going to do on Friday or Saturday night before a big game? Is he going to make another poor choice like this? The timing is so bad, and the foot issue, tells me that this guy isn’t just dropping out of the first round, he’s dropping to the third or fourth round now,” Dominik said onMike & Mike. “I know he’s dropping out of the first round. I don’t see any way he’s going in the first round.”Ray has likely lost many millions of dollars in the last few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 if I was GM, he would not fall past Falcons pick #2-042. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JBridgez Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 This would probably be overdoing it a little bit. I find it hard to believe that we would let Shane Ray get by us in rd 2...and especially not in rd 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastiemike Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 If he falls to our second pick, it better be the fastest card ever turned in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Todd Gurley in the first, Shane Ray in the 2nd, that would or at least should make fans happy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
putnam6 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Me either, Ray would be one motivated sum beech. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 the question would be: - let's say Falcons stayed put at #8 and took Vic Beasley. Would you still take Shane Ray if he fell to Falcons 2nd rounder? I think I would - Falcons could use multiple passrushers - I am fairly certain they would both be on the field on 3rd downs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 Me either, Ray would be one motivated sum beech.I hope Shane Ray enjoyed that blunt - it was probably a $3 million blunt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I watched their segment this morning. Disagree with Dominik completely about falling to the 4th round. I hate the dumb move he made more than anyone, but i'll be surprised if he even makes it past the middle of the 2nd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coastiemike Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 It's a gamble to wait that long but I'd be down with Scherff / Ray or better yet Scherff / Gregory.It's a gamble, and I see the Patriots or Saints (with the 31 pick) taking him if he really falls that far. He could even be taken earlier by Cincinatti or Baltimore. But, it certainly is a gamble worth taking. I don't believe he falls to the third under any circumstance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of God Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 lol...dude's likely not falling to the second Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clark Kent™ Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 I hope Shane Ray enjoyed that blunt - it was probably a $3 million blunt.Actually they said on Mike and Mike that the difference between the #5 pick last year and a 3rd rounder was around 18 mill in guaranteed money i believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jarod_Briggs2 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Double down on DE? Beasley and Ray? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Scherff would help the run game more than Gurley. Both would make the run game better, if a miracle happens, Falcons ends up with Scherff at 8, trades up in the first for Gurley and also ends up with Ray in the 3rd round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 These pundits have lost their minds. Ray will not make it out of the first round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Trade #8 and #73 for #4 from OAK...take Leonard Williams...Trade #42 and #250 for #64, #96, #101 from NE...take Shane Ray...1 (4): Leonard Williams DT2 (64): Shane Ray DE3 (96): David Johnson RB4 (101): Anthony Harris FS4 (107): Tyler Lockett WR5 (146): Jarvis Harrison OG6 (185): Hayes Pullard ILB7 (226): Tray Walker CB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Trade #8 and #73 for #4 from OAK...take Leonard Williams...Trade #42 and #250 for #64, #96, #101 from NE...take Shane Ray...1 (4): Leonard Williams DT2 (64): Shane Ray DE3 (96): David Johnson RB4 (101): Anthony Harris FS4 (107): Tyler Lockett WR5 (146): Jarvis Harrison OG6 (185): Hayes Pullard ILB7 (226): Tray Walker CBIt's going to take our 2nd round pick to trade up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FentayeJones Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 It's a gamble, and I see the Patriots or Saints (with the 31 pick) taking him if he really falls that far. He could even be taken earlier by Cincinatti or Baltimore. But, it certainly is a gamble worth taking. I don't believe he falls to the third under any circumstance.Hes not getting past Ozzie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonDaLuvMaker Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Both would make the run game better, if a miracle happens, Falcons ends up with Scherff at 8, trades up in the first for Gurley and also ends up with Ray in the 3rd round.Doubt the Falcons would have a 3rd left if that happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridder Me This Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 It's going to take our 2nd round pick to trade up.I don't disagree...just being optimistic in the possibility... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
g-dawg Posted April 28, 2015 Author Share Posted April 28, 2015 yeah I don't get the "round 4" comment - to say Shane Ray could fall out of the 1st round - that is a reasonable and believeable stmt - but why go over the top and say "Round 4"? makes no sense.In the NFL, every team is starved for passrushers and 50% of the NFL probably lights the peace pipe - I don't see this knocking Shane Ray down to 4th round - I see bottom of 1st or top of 2nd round though - maybe further - but not 4th round - that won't happen.Having said that, there is precedent. Anyone remember Everson Griffen? he was projected to go in the 20's in the 2010 NFL draft - failed a drug test and dropped to the top of the 4th round when selected by Vikings. However, that was in day/age when marijuana was looked down on moreso than now - and he was projected as not quite the prospect that Shane Ray is - having said that, Griffen has done well and just got a big contract extension from the Vikes.The problem for Shane Ray is he has two strikes against him:#1) The Toe: he is saying now it won't require surgery but I would bet a box of Krispy Kreme donuts he gets surgery within two weeks after the NFL draft. Even if the story holds, and he has to rest the toe - I heard he would need to rest it for 5 months - so he is missing training camp either way. This means you probably don't get a lot out of Ray his rookie season.#2) The stupidity of getting popped for weed the week of the draft - flunked the intelligence test.when you put those two together - he could get doubly knocked down the board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RHEC Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Doubt the Falcons would have a 3rd left if that happens.More likely our 2nd and maybe next years 2nd to trade back up in the 1st. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gHost83 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 (edited) Trade up for Williams and get Ray with our second. 3rd was traded away to move up for Williams. 4th Guard Mitch Morse Edited April 28, 2015 by gHost83 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madman88 Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 Theres no way he gets out of the 2nd rd, if he makes it there.Just too many teams in need of a pass rusher.Honey badger lasted to the 3rd rd and cards finally took him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
etherdome Posted April 28, 2015 Share Posted April 28, 2015 if I was GM, he would not fall past Falcons pick #2-042. Same here. I can not see Ray falling out of the second round. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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